KR> ELT Antenna - Com antenna

[Christo Theron]

Thanks Dan, 
Do you have the specification (plan) of your Com antenna.
How does it compare with the standard com antenna?

Christo Theron

"Maybe some do have internal antenna,
but mine has a hand held version of the antenna and one for installation in
the aircraft.  Here is the visual on the one installed in the aircraft.

 http://krbuilder.org/Electrical/index.html

KR> ELT antenna location

[Glenn Martin]

PETER KAREN GAUTHIER wrote:
> How important is the 5' separation?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete Gauthier
> KR builder
> Woodburn, OR
>
If the ELT goes off..that comm antenna will be pretty much the last 
worry you have. Go with the 3 feet or the best you can do.

-- 
Glenn Martin (N5PQ)
Martek Mississippi Electronic Repair
13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd.
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> ELT antenna location

[PETER KAREN GAUTHIER]

I just acquired an ACK model E-01 ELT.  I went with this because it is the most 
inexpensive way to be legal, I'll upgrade when I begin to do some serious 
flying out of the valley.  My problem is the installation instructions say to 
mount the antenna 1.6 meters (5') from the comm antenna.  My comm antenna is 
about 16" behind the seatback, that only leaves 3' to the most aft location in 
the fuselage that I can easily mount the antenna with some sort of a ground 
plane.  How important is the 5' separation?

Thanks,

Pete Gauthier
KR builder
Woodburn, OR  

KR> ELT antenna

[Oscar Zuniga]

Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on an ELT 
inside a composite aircraft?  Most ELTs have a wire whip or external antenna 
but a rubber duck would be more compact.

If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell?  There don't seem 
to be any on eBay.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> ELT antenna

[Al Hawkins]

Hi Oscar

It would work but would have limited range, my ELT came with 2 antennas
one a telescoping portable.
I used my ELT antenna by making a star pattern for a ground plane, made
using 1 inch wide copper strips.
I put the Antenna on the floor about  2 feet back from the seat back.

Al Hawkins
KR2 C-GDPU
Port Coquitlam, B.C.
Canada



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Oscar Zuniga
Sent: June 8, 2005 5:48 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT antenna


Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on an
ELT 
inside a composite aircraft?  Most ELTs have a wire whip or external
antenna 
but a rubber duck would be more compact.

If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell?  There don't
seem 
to be any on eBay.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

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KR> ELT antenna

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

Very in efficient. Could be tuned but most are cut for the 2 M
band and are too short,
Virg

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0500 "Oscar Zuniga" 
writes:
> Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on 
> an ELT 
> inside a composite aircraft?  Most ELTs have a wire whip or external 
> antenna 
> but a rubber duck would be more compact.
> 
> If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell?  There 
> don't seem 
> to be any on eBay.
> 
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> 
> 
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Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
Miami ,Fl

KR> ELT antenna

[Joseph H. Horton]

I finished installing mine just the other day. I think i remember the
book saying that a rubber ducky is unacceptable. I don't know why.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

> Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on 
> an ELT 
> inside a composite aircraft?  Most ELTs have a wire whip or external 
> antenna 
> but a rubber duck would be more compact.
> 
> If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell?  There 
> don't seem 
> to be any on eBay.
> 
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com

KR> ELT antenna

[Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO]

Here is a site with a kit for making up to 6 antenna's for 29.00
http://www.rst-engr.com/rst/catalog/airplane_antenna.html
  

Eric Pitts
Terre Haute IN
KR2S
http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/  

KR> ELT antenna

[Doug Rupert]

Dan just lightly scuff the aluminum plate with steel wool, sandpaper or
whatever then wipe it down with solvent to make sure it is clean and shiny
prior to installing the tape. The problems Ron was referring to are a common
misconception as most electricians didn't follow the proper methods for
installing aluminum wiring and this was the cause of the house fires. Also
aluminum wire is less forgiving than copper and very brittle so any slack at
all in installation can cause the wire to break resulting in a short and
resulting fire. All those high tension wires you see around the country are
made from aluminum and I haven't seen any of them on fire lately.
Doug Rupert

KR> ELT antenna

[Clayton Brod]

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of sight,
however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane.  This is difficult to 
do in a 
KR-2.  What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a 36 inch
ground plane standard?
Thanks:
Clay Brod

KR> ELT antenna

[Mark Jones]

Clay,
I have the same but a 2s and I made mine with 3/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat bar
placed on top of the longeron cross braces under the turtle deck. Make an X
with the antenna mounted in the center and you have a good ground plane.
Search the archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/search or 
http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and you will find lots of
suggestions.


Mark Jones

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Brod [mailto:br...@worldnet.att.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:18 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT antenna

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of
sight,
however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane.  This is difficult
to do in a 
KR-2.  What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a 36
inch
ground plane standard?
Thanks:
Clay Brod
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KR> ELT Antenna

[JIM VANCE]

Clay,

I have built many antennas using coaxial cable.  The VSWR is less than 1.05 to 
1.00.
I'm using the same type of antenna for my comm radio.

I have written up a blurb on how to make one, install it, and tune it.

If you will contact me directly with your e-mail address, I'll send it to you.

Jim Vance
va...@claflinwildcats.com

KR> ELT Antenna

[paulw...@webtv.net]

Hi, Jim;
Thanks for the offer...I'll take a copy.
Good luck in all your endevours.

paulw...@webtv.net 




http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad

KR> ELT antenna - Mounting

[Dan Heath]

Clay,

If you look on this page: http://kr-builder.org/Electrical/index.html you
can see how I install mine. I wrote to the manufacturer and they told me
that a lesser space was acceptable, I think I was asking them about 24". You
are right, there is not much room. 

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
has expired.

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics 

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering

---Original Message---

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of
sight,

however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane. This is difficult
to do in a

KR-2. What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a 36
inch

ground plane standard?

KR> ELT antenna

[Ron Freiberger]

Use the copper tape supplied by Jim Weir for a good solution and low
weight.

Repeat after me,"You cannot make a reliable connection to ALUMINUM with
care and great effort.

Ron Freiberger
mail to rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com  <- substitute an @ sign ;o)

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:56 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Clay,
I have the same but a 2s and I made mine with 3/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat
bar
placed on top of the longeron cross braces under the turtle deck. Make
an X
with the antenna mounted in the center and you have a good ground plane.
Search the archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/search or 
http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and you will find lots of
suggestions.


Mark Jones

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Brod [mailto:br...@worldnet.att.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:18 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT antenna

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of
sight,
however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane.  This is
difficult
to do in a 
KR-2.  What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a
36
inch
ground plane standard?
Thanks:
Clay Brod
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KR> ELT antenna

[Dan Heath]

Ron,

Are you saying that my aluminum mounting bracket will not make a good
contact to the copper tape ground plane?  Is there anyway to improve upon
that?

http://kr-builder.org/Electrical/index.html 

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
has expired.
See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics 
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
---Original Message---

From: KRnet
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 11/03/04 19:21:15
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Use the copper tape supplied by Jim Weir for a good solution and low
weight.

Repeat after me,"You cannot make a reliable connection to ALUMINUM with
care and great effort.

Ron Freiberger
mail to rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com  <- substitute an @ sign ;o)

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:56 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Clay,
I have the same but a 2s and I made mine with 3/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat
bar
placed on top of the longeron cross braces under the turtle deck. Make
an X
with the antenna mounted in the center and you have a good ground plane.
Search the archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/search or
http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and you will find lots of
suggestions.


Mark Jones

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Brod [mailto:br...@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:18 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT antenna

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of
sight,
however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane.  This is
difficult
to do in a
KR-2.  What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a
36
inch
ground plane standard?
Thanks:
Clay Brod
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KR> ELT antenna

[Ron Freiberger]

Lock washers and high clamping pressure. Don't use stainless steel
either.

BTW, my friend's Starduster and a fire starter using Aluminum cable
salvages from a PIPER, and by brother in law burned his house down with
aluminum wiring.

Ron Freiberger
mail to rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com  <- substitute an @ sign ;o)

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:24 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Ron,

Are you saying that my aluminum mounting bracket will not make a good
contact to the copper tape ground plane?  Is there anyway to improve
upon
that?

http://kr-builder.org/Electrical/index.html 

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
building
has expired.
See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics 
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
---Original Message---

From: KRnet
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 11/03/04 19:21:15
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Use the copper tape supplied by Jim Weir for a good solution and low
weight.

Repeat after me,"You cannot make a reliable connection to ALUMINUM with
care and great effort.

Ron Freiberger
mail to rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com  <- substitute an @ sign ;o)

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:56 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna

Clay,
I have the same but a 2s and I made mine with 3/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat
bar
placed on top of the longeron cross braces under the turtle deck. Make
an X
with the antenna mounted in the center and you have a good ground plane.
Search the archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/search or
http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and you will find lots of
suggestions.


Mark Jones

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Brod [mailto:br...@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:18 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> ELT antenna

My ELT is a AK-450, I would like to mount the antenna some where out of
sight,
however the instruction call for a 36 inch ground plane.  This is
difficult
to do in a
KR-2.  What are some solutions to make a acceptable installation? Is a
36
inch
ground plane standard?
Thanks:
Clay Brod
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KR> ELT Antenna Location

[larry flesner]

>My ELT ( AmeriKing ) says that the antenna must be located 3 feet from any
>vertically polarized communication antenna.  Where is there 3 feet available
>between where a com could be installed and where this (*&)(*& can be
>installed? 
>Daniel R. Heath 
++

That's what you get for reading the directions!  I guess I'd better go 
back and read mine.  My ELT antenna is located about 2 feet from
my com antenna.  I've not had any problems but then I've not needed
my ELT yet either.  Are they suggesting you might get power from
one antenna feeding to the other and setting off the ELT or what?

Larry Flesner

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Mark Langford]

I was reading my Terra TX-760D manual today, and it stated an absolute
minimum of 21 inches to any other vertical antenna.  Fortunately my rudder
cables miss it by at least a half inch, so I should be safe there!  Maybe
that's where the squealing in my headset is coming from every time I key the
mic!

More on that as I figure it out, but suffice it to say I'm breadboarding my
radio away from the plane in an effort to figure out what the deal is.
Grounds are all OK, but I didn't notice from the schematic that the mic and
headphone lines were supposed to be shielded, so a rewire may be in my
future, or at least adding a shield to those lines.  My deadline is
gradually slipping away...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Dan Heath]

RE: Are they suggesting you might get power from one antenna feeding to the
other and setting off the ELT or what?

Larry,

They don't suggest anything. Another issue that I discovered after sending
the message is that it requires a ground plane with a minimum diameter of 36
. If I go behind the seat, there is no flat place that will accommodate a 36
 in diameter ground plane.

The Little Beast had an ACK in it that was self contained. The antenna was
about the same as this one, except that it was part of the ACK. Before I
finished the plane, I had it stored in the trunk of my car along with all
the other stuff that I hauled back and forth to the airport. Not thinking
much about it, I never thought to remove the battery. Well, one night at
about 2am, the CAP were knocking on my door because the aircraft that had
been sent out of Shaw AFB had determined that the plane (the one my ELT was
supposed to be in) had crashed in my driveway. I thought that I was in
serious trouble, but they just cautioned me and took it as an exercise. Did
I ever feel like the luckiest idiot on the planet.

The point is, that thing worked from the trunk of my car and did not have
any such antenna set up as this thing is asking for. It would be nice to
know the requirements before buying stuff like this. 

"There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the
time for building has long since expired."

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Dan Heath]

Mark,

That is cool, and it only talks about COM freq range antenna.  However, if
wishes were fishes, my antenna would be back there also. 

"There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the
time for building has long since expired."
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering  http://KRGathering.org
See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Stephen Jacobs]

no flat place that will accommodate a 36 in diameter ground plane
It would be nice to know the requirements before buying stuff like this.



I am not sure that the ground plain needs to be perfectly flat - I have
seen some that have consisted of 3/4" wide brass or copper strip laid
out in a cross with the Antenna in the centre.

Better to do an installation that provides the best possible signal
propagation Dan - you never know where you may be if you ever need to be
found.

On a few occasions now we have (as fellow pilots) used the ELT signal to
find a missing airplane by flying through the antenna radiation "cone"
in different directions and using the strongest signal on each pass as
the centre.

The problem has always been to find the signal in the first place.
Fortunately, in each case we were had an international flight passing
overhead with a Rx on the emergency channel - each time they have heard
it first and given us a fix. (the "cone" must be huge at FL350)

Steve J
Zambia

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Mark Langford]

> On a few occasions now we have (as fellow pilots) used the ELT signal to
> find a missing airplane by flying through the antenna radiation "cone"
> in different directions and using the strongest signal on each pass as
> the centre.

I'm no antenna expert, but I thought the pattern from that sort of antenna
was more of a doughnut shape, which means directly above the antenna would
be one of the weakest places in the pattern.  An electrical engineer buddy
here at work did a study of my dipole and plotted out an image of the
pattern, and it was a doughnut.  I was investigating the effects of painting
the aft deck with silver paint, and result was not encouraging at all!  If I
find it I'll post it later.

Adrian Carter posted his design for a comm antenna at one time.  I've
reposted it at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr_antenna.gif if it'll help
anybody else out.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
N56ML at hiwaay.net
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Mark Jones]

-Original Message-
From: Dan Heath [mailto:da...@alltel.net] 

Another issue that I discovered after sending the message is that it
requires a ground plane with a minimum diameter of 36". If I go behind the
seat, there is no flat place that will accommodate a 36" in diameter ground
plane.


Dan,
I have the same ELT as you. I also have the comm antenna installed in my
vertical stabilizer. I also have a 36" flat ground plane. Plus I am more
than 3' from the comm antenna. Your ground plane does not have to be a solid
diameter of metal. What I did was to take two 36" x 1" x 1/16" pieces of
aluminum flat bar and make an X with them and drill the antenna hole at the
cross and install the antenna there. Two legs of the ground plane are
attached under the shelf just behind the seat as far forward as possible and
spread as wide as possible. The two legs reaching rearward are attached
(floxed) to one of the cross members at the longerons. Where is your comm
antenna?

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Stephen Jacobs]

I thought the pattern from that sort of antenna was more of a doughnut
shape, which means directly above the antenna would be one of the
weakest places in the pattern

++

Correct = the propagation pattern (in section) for a whip antenna is
like a squashed heart shape with the lobes either side of centre -
weakest signal is right in the centre along the line the whip is
pointing.  From above it is a doughnut.

We took that into account, IF the distressed airplane was still right
way up, there would be two peaks on each pass.  By the time we found the
signal and moved down to 1000 agl that became academic.

Point was (is)- give your ELT the best possible chance of getting help
for you by optimising the antenna installation.

Take care
Steve J

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[jehayw...@aol.com]

In a message dated 7/14/04 7:12:08 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
da...@alltel.net writes:

<< I have a problem that I would suppose that most of you will or do have 
now. 
 My ELT ( AmeriKing ) says that the antenna must be located 3 feet from any
 vertically polarized communication antenna.  Where is there 3 feet available
 between where a com could be installed and where this (*&)(*& can be
 installed?  >>

Dan, they are probably talking about horizontal 
separation.  If you can mount it vertically separated 
like one on the bottom and the other on top of the 
fuselage, that would give you more than enough 
"electronic" separation.  

Jim H. 

KR> ELT Antenna ground plane

[larry flesner]

Another issue that I discovered after sending
>the message is that it requires a ground plane with a minimum diameter of 36
>Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
+++

I don't recall the size required but I used "tin foil" for a ground plane.
I sprayed the floor with spray adhesive and laid down the foil.  It goes
up and over the spruce cross pieces.

Make sure the foil makes good contact with the "ground" contact on the
antenna mount.  Test indicated it works for me although I don't
know the actual range.

Larry Flesner

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Dan Heath]

My com is on top, about where Marty's is, and the ground plane for that is
stuck to the inside of the turtle deck. We are using copper tape. I may do
what you did and put a ground plane of copper tape on top of the longeron
cross pieces, and put a piece of skin plywood on first to give something to
put the antenna on. I discussed this with AmeriKing via email today and they
said that it did not have to be 3 feet from the com an it didn't have to be
36" in diameter, that 24" would do. As I told Larry earlier, my ACK antenna
was just like a hand held and it worked fine. Since the ground plane for the
com is only made of strips of copper, I don't suppose that it will interfere
too much with the ELT signal and I really don't see why the antenna would
matter as the power in the plane should be off if I am going to crash.

I also found out something else very interesting on the AmeriKing web site.
Experimentals "technically" don't require an ELT at all. I was always told
that if it had more than one seat, it had to have one, but their site states
that experimentals are not required to have one.

Don't start flaming on that please, I have one and am installing it and don
t suggest that anyone do without one. I am just passing on the information.

"There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the
time for building has long since expired."

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Dan Heath]

I have a problem that I would suppose that most of you will or do have now. 
My ELT ( AmeriKing ) says that the antenna must be located 3 feet from any
vertically polarized communication antenna.  Where is there 3 feet available
between where a com could be installed and where this (*&)(*& can be
installed? 

"There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the
time for building has long since expired."
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering  http://KRGathering.org
See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

KR> ELT Antenna Location

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> I have a problem that I would suppose that most of you will or do have
now.
> My ELT ( AmeriKing ) says that the antenna must be located 3 feet from any
> vertically polarized communication antenna.  Where is there 3 feet
available
> between where a com could be installed and where this (*&)(*& can be
> installed?

My comm antenna is built into the vertical stabilizer (see
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/antennas.html ), and my ELT antenna is 6
feet further forward two bays behind the aft spar.  Does that qualify?  The
transponder antenna is 18" aft of the ELT antenna, but that's supposed to be
plenty for the high frequency it operates at.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

KR> ELT Antenna

[Mark Jones]

Is there ant reason not to mount the ELT antenna inside of the fuselage vs 
having it mounted external?

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

@SPAM+++ KR> ELT Antenna

[gleone]

 As long as you don't use carbon fiber on the fuselage, you'll be fine
mounting any or all of your antennas inside the airframe.

When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be
surprised if they learn their lesson.
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Date: 05/22/04 14:56:49
To: KR Net
Subject: @SPAM+++ KR> ELT Antenna

Is there ant reason not to mount the ELT antenna inside of the fuselage vs
having it mounted external?

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR> ELT Antenna

[Dan Heath]

Mine was inside on the Little Beast and passed inspection. In fact, it was
fixed to the ELT. Unless you have carbon fiber, you should be OK. 



There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for
building has long since expired.



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Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC



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Date: 05/22/04 16:56:52

To: KR Net

Subject: KR> ELT Antenna



Is there ant reason not to mount the ELT antenna inside of the fuselage vs
having it mounted external?



Mark Jones (N886MJ)

Wales, WI USA

E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com

Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html



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KR> ELT Antenna

[cartera]

Hi Mark and Netters,
None what so ever, no need for outside mounting. I had 3 antennae 
inside, transponder,
com and ham all inside. Com and ham were 1/4 wave dipoles and the txpdr 
sat in the
vertical on a 1/4" plywood  epoxied to a cross member half way down to the
rudder. Still flying today the same!
Happy Flying!

Mark Jones wrote:

>Is there ant reason not to mount the ELT antenna inside of the fuselage vs 
>having it mounted external?
>
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>Wales, WI  USA 
>E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
>http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
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>  
>

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