Re: KR> Melting lead
Forgot to mention - not a household oven, but an industrial oven - 63/37 SnPb weighs in at about 570#/cu. Ft. -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Wegmet via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:38 PM To: 'KRnet' Cc: Mark Wegmet; 'Sid Wood' Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead If it is a true eutectic, you can put it in an oven set at 425F - 63/37 SnPb melts at 361F. If you have a ladle and are VERY careful with appropriate PPE, you can transfer it to your new pot. If your old pot has a "drain" set up, again, with proper PPE, you can 'dump' it into the new pot. Obviously, you will destroy everything on your old pot except the solder pot itself by doing this. You could also disassemble your old set up and build a mini kiln with firebrick/refractory brick and propane or gas torches to accomplish the same thing. I hope you are knowledgeable about handling molten metal... this is not a task for the uninitiated. BTW, I spent almost 30 years building circuit boards, including assemblies with SMD fine pitch, wave solder systems, IR/Solder paste, etc. In any event BE CAREFULL! Mark W N952MW -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Sid Wood via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:17 PM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Sid Wood Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch. That does tend to oxidize the lead, so you do get more slag. Solder is a mixture of lead and tin. These will oxidize at different rates under the torch flame. That could change the mixture ratio of the solder. Maybe not a big deal, but could be. If you can get at the underside of the pot, suggest you apply the torch there. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA -- Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for mass soldering of circuit boards. It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that is regulated at 250 degrees C. I have a new solder pot on the way, but am trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the old pot and put it in the new one. At today's prices for bar solder it is $1,500 worth of solder. It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch. Withe any luck the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just transfer it to the old pot. Can't buy just the heating element. Brian Kraut 904-536-1780 br...@eamanuacturing.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
If it is a true eutectic, you can put it in an oven set at 425F - 63/37 SnPb melts at 361F. If you have a ladle and are VERY careful with appropriate PPE, you can transfer it to your new pot. If your old pot has a "drain" set up, again, with proper PPE, you can 'dump' it into the new pot. Obviously, you will destroy everything on your old pot except the solder pot itself by doing this. You could also disassemble your old set up and build a mini kiln with firebrick/refractory brick and propane or gas torches to accomplish the same thing. I hope you are knowledgeable about handling molten metal... this is not a task for the uninitiated. BTW, I spent almost 30 years building circuit boards, including assemblies with SMD fine pitch, wave solder systems, IR/Solder paste, etc. In any event BE CAREFULL! Mark W N952MW -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Sid Wood via KRnet Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:17 PM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Sid Wood Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch. That does tend to oxidize the lead, so you do get more slag. Solder is a mixture of lead and tin. These will oxidize at different rates under the torch flame. That could change the mixture ratio of the solder. Maybe not a big deal, but could be. If you can get at the underside of the pot, suggest you apply the torch there. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA -- Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for mass soldering of circuit boards. It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that is regulated at 250 degrees C. I have a new solder pot on the way, but am trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the old pot and put it in the new one. At today's prices for bar solder it is $1,500 worth of solder. It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch. Withe any luck the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just transfer it to the old pot. Can't buy just the heating element. Brian Kraut 904-536-1780 br...@eamanuacturing.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
At work we salvaged a large amount of silver solder from a failed solder pot by using mapp gas instead of propane on the surface. That choice was driven by the shear amount involved. Propane would have worked just fine.Regards, Bill Jacobs Daytona Beach, Fl. On Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:18 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote: Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
Lead can be melted with direct application of a propane torch. That does tend to oxidize the lead, so you do get more slag. Solder is a mixture of lead and tin. These will oxidize at different rates under the torch flame. That could change the mixture ratio of the solder. Maybe not a big deal, but could be. If you can get at the underside of the pot, suggest you apply the torch there. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA -- Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for mass soldering of circuit boards. It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that is regulated at 250 degrees C. I have a new solder pot on the way, but am trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the old pot and put it in the new one. At today's prices for bar solder it is $1,500 worth of solder. It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch. Withe any luck the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just transfer it to the old pot. Can't buy just the heating element. Brian Kraut 904-536-1780 br...@eamanuacturing.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
That is exactly what I did, plaster of paris molds that were baked in the oven to get the moisture out. I think I made the initial male mold out of wax if I remember correctly then poured on the plaster of paris to make a female mold then baked in the oven and poured out the melted wax to get my female molds. I used lead fishing sinkers and melted them in a cat food can on my gas stove, but I think an electric stove would do fine also. One recommendation I have on your aileron ballance weights is to not have them as big rectangles. Keep in mind that you want most of the mass of lead to be on a long arm away from the hinge point. It takes twice the weight to ballance as it would if the weight was twice as far from the hinge point. I recall Jim Faughn's (If I am remembering correctly) ballance weight on one aileron breaking off in flight at a gathering one year. His weights were huge rectangles with a lot of mass near the hinge point so they were a lot heavier than they needed to be which makes the whole aileron and counterbalance assembly heavier and more prone to flutter even when ballanced. I made mine more wedge shaped with most of the mass far from the hinge point. Speaking of melting lead, I have been trying to figure out for the past few days how to deal with my solder pot that just crapped out that I use for mass soldering of circuit boards. It is a big 2,000 Watt electric pot that is regulated at 250 degrees C. I have a new solder pot on the way, but am trying to figure out the best way to melt out the 75 pounds of solder in the old pot and put it in the new one. At today's prices for bar solder it is $1,500 worth of solder. It takes about an hour to melt when the pot is working so I am not sure if I can effectively just remove the pot from the whole machine and heat on the stove or heat it with a torch. Withe any luck the heating element on the new pot is the same as the old one and I can just transfer it to the old pot. Can't buy just the heating element. Brian Kraut 904-536-1780 br...@eamanuacturing.com Original Message ---- Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead From: Parley T Byington via KRnet Date: Sat, January 28, 2017 1:56 pm To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" Cc: Parley T Byington Date: Saturday, Jan.28,2017 Subject: Melting lead and safety precautions When making my counter weights, I built some molds out of plaster of Paris to shape then used the female mold to pour melted lead into. ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT HERE; that is heat the mold (plaster) in the oven to a high temperature to ensure there is NO water left in the plaster PRIOR to pouring molten lead in it. FAILURE to do this will result in an explosion of molten lead that will cover everything with in a 10 ft radius INCLUDING the person pouring the lead! ALWAYS WEAR PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, GLOVES, EYE, FACE, ARM, AND BODY PROTECTION. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
My wife says I've had it for years. Paul Visk Belleville Il. 618-406-4705 - 》Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to 》》》concentrate. I think I have lead poisoning. Joe Nunley Baker Florida ___ ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
》Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to 》》》concentrate. I think I have lead poisoning. Joe Nunley Baker Florida ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
Has anyone thought of lead sheeting? Cuts early with tin snips. Most large home improvement stores have in the roofing dept. Rolls in 25 ft lengths, about .050 thick. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Jeff Scott via KRnet Date: 1/28/17 7:09 PM (GMT-06:00) To: krnet@list.krnet.org Cc: Jeff Scott Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead You are allowed to expose yourself to lead if you choose. I think most of us have, including me on numerous occasions. But after watching a friend's illness with lead poisoning from bead blasting aircraft cylinders IN a bead blasting cabinet, I don't work with lead anymore without adequate precautions. I would suggest you describe your operation to an Industrial Hygienist and ask for an opinion. You might be surprised at what they say. I can tell you from work that I am required to take about the same precautions when casting, melting or forming Lead as when doing equivalent work with Uranium. Once you get a dose of lead poisoning, you end up doing Chelation Therapy for years to reduce the amount of the heavy metals in your system and get your head on straight again. The point of the post isn't that you can't melt lead and get away with it. The point is that lead is highly toxic and there are other ways to form your counterweights without exposing yourself to the potential of lead poisoning. Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to concentrate. It can be confused with symptoms of aging, so Drs don't typically test for lead poisoning unless you tell them you have had exposure. Chelation therapy can help you to slowly recover. But it's best not to put yourself into the position to need it. If one feels that they must melt lead, try to do so with good ventilation and take precautions to minimize exposure. What was an acceptable practice in the plans from 45 years ago has been demonstrated to be unnecessary, highly toxic, and a risk to your health. So why do so if you don't need to? -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM --- Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead I have melted lead many times on the stove and I think all my brain cells remain intact. You're melting it, not boiling it, so the amount getting into the air is insignificant. Obviously don't ever use the pot again for food. A tin can sounds like a good idea. Mike Taglieri ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
You are allowed to expose yourself to lead if you choose. I think most of us have, including me on numerous occasions. But after watching a friend's illness with lead poisoning from bead blasting aircraft cylinders IN a bead blasting cabinet, I don't work with lead anymore without adequate precautions. I would suggest you describe your operation to an Industrial Hygienist and ask for an opinion. You might be surprised at what they say. I can tell you from work that I am required to take about the same precautions when casting, melting or forming Lead as when doing equivalent work with Uranium. Once you get a dose of lead poisoning, you end up doing Chelation Therapy for years to reduce the amount of the heavy metals in your system and get your head on straight again. The point of the post isn't that you can't melt lead and get away with it. The point is that lead is highly toxic and there are other ways to form your counterweights without exposing yourself to the potential of lead poisoning. Lead poisoning sneaks up on you first as memory loss or lack of ability to concentrate. It can be confused with symptoms of aging, so Drs don't typically test for lead poisoning unless you tell them you have had exposure. Chelation therapy can help you to slowly recover. But it's best not to put yourself into the position to need it. If one feels that they must melt lead, try to do so with good ventilation and take precautions to minimize exposure. What was an acceptable practice in the plans from 45 years ago has been demonstrated to be unnecessary, highly toxic, and a risk to your health. So why do so if you don't need to? -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM --- Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead I have melted lead many times on the stove and I think all my brain cells remain intact. You're melting it, not boiling it, so the amount getting into the air is insignificant. Obviously don't ever use the pot again for food. A tin can sounds like a good idea. Mike Taglieri ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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At 02:56 PM 1/28/2017, you wrote: Molds can also be made from cardboard and masking tape, yes some of the tape and cardboard will burn but will not leak before the lead solidifies and is easily removed. + Jeff Scott's suggestion of lead shot in epoxy flox / or equivalent eliminates all the "CAUTIONS" expressed on "melting lead". It works. I did my elevator counterbalance using that method. I'm not sure if small shot with tighter spacing or larger shot is best for a smaller over all weight of the same size. My guess is smaller shot. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
Date: Saturday, Jan.28,2017 Subject: Melting lead and safety precautions When making my counter weights, I built some molds out of plaster of Paris to shape then used the female mold to pour melted lead into. ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT HERE; that is heat the mold (plaster) in the oven to a high temperature to ensure there is NO water left in the plaster PRIOR to pouring molten lead in it. FAILURE to do this will result in an explosion of molten lead that will cover everything with in a 10 ft radius INCLUDING the person pouring the lead! ALWAYS WEAR PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, GLOVES, EYE, FACE, ARM, AND BODY PROTECTION. Molds can also be made from cardboard and masking tape, yes some of the tape and cardboard will burn but will not leak before the lead solidifies and is easily removed. Thanks Parley Byington N54PB Kr-2 Original with retracts Henderson Nv. 89015 byington1...@embarqmail.com On Jan 28, 2017, at 12:10, Mike T via KRnet wrote: > I have melted lead many times on the stove and I think all my brain cells > remain intact. You're melting it, not boiling it, so the amount getting > into the air is insignificant. Obviously don't ever use the pot again for > food. A tin can sounds like a good idea. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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I used an electric melting pot when I was doing a bunch of reloading. If you want to keep the lead "clean", drop some parafin on top the hot lead and stir it and it make the junk float off. WATCH OUT. Sometimes it will FLASH OFF. Face shield and gloves should be mandatory for protection. Ron From: Mike T via KRnet To: KRnet Cc: Mike T Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 2:10 PM Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead I have melted lead many times on the stove and I think all my brain cells remain intact. You're melting it, not boiling it, so the amount getting into the air is insignificant. Obviously don't ever use the pot again for food. A tin can sounds like a good idea. Mike Taglieri On Jan 28, 2017 10:59 AM, "Chris Kinnaman via KRnet" wrote: > Maybe you could cut the exact shape & size you need. > > On 1/28/2017 8:47 AM, Paul Visk via KRnet wrote: > >> Thanks for all the advice from one pothead. I guess I was a little >> impatient. I'll cut this hunk down into littler pieces. That will help. >> >> Paul ViskBelleville Il. >> 618-406-4705 >> >> _ ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
I have melted lead many times on the stove and I think all my brain cells remain intact. You're melting it, not boiling it, so the amount getting into the air is insignificant. Obviously don't ever use the pot again for food. A tin can sounds like a good idea. Mike Taglieri On Jan 28, 2017 10:59 AM, "Chris Kinnaman via KRnet" wrote: > Maybe you could cut the exact shape & size you need. > > On 1/28/2017 8:47 AM, Paul Visk via KRnet wrote: > >> Thanks for all the advice from one pothead. I guess I was a little >> impatient. I'll cut this hunk down into littler pieces. That will help. >> >> Paul ViskBelleville Il. >> 618-406-4705 >> >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to >> change options >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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Maybe you could cut the exact shape & size you need. On 1/28/2017 8:47 AM, Paul Visk via KRnet wrote: Thanks for all the advice from one pothead. I guess I was a little impatient. I'll cut this hunk down into littler pieces. That will help. Paul ViskBelleville Il. 618-406-4705 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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Thanks for all the advice from one pothead. I guess I was a little impatient. I'll cut this hunk down into littler pieces. That will help. Paul ViskBelleville Il. 618-406-4705 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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Tin can, fishing weights, wheel weights, propane stove, torch, it's all good. I found the led does not stick to aluminum so I took a u channel to form the sides and a thin piece of aluminum that I shaped to form the front and back and fit it in the u channel. I taped the outside which will burn but it hold the led long enough to form a nice weight. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Gary via KRnet wrote: > I found it easy with a tin can and propane torch. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet > wrote: > > > > So when the wife takes cooking utensil and makes contact with skull > you > > are now officially called a "pot head"! > > > > On Jan 27, 2017 11:09 PM, "Bill Masquelier via KRnet" < > krnet@list.krnet.org> > > wrote: > > > >> I melt lead easily over an old Coleman camping stove in an old (junk) > pot- > >> no problem > >> > >> Bill Masquelier > >> > >> > >> ________ > >> From: KRnet on behalf of Paul Visk via > >> KRnet > >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:26 PM > >> To: KR EMAIL BOARD > >> Cc: Paul Visk > >> Subject: KR> Melting lead > >> > >> First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old > pot > >> to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some > >> advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what > your > >> wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned?? > >> > >> How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet > >> search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. > >> > >> > >> Paul Visk > >> > >> Belleville Il. > >> > >> 618-406-4705 > >> > >> ___ > >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > >> KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> > >> www.krnet.org > >> Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to > >> control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. > >> Unfortunately, this can ... > >> > >> > >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change > >> options > >> KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list. > >> krnet.org> > >> list.krnet.org > >> KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series > of > >> homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior > postings to > >> the list ... > >> > >> > >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > >> ___ > >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change > >> options > >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > >> > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > change options > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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I found it easy with a tin can and propane torch. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 28, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Ken Hurley via KRnet > wrote: > > So when the wife takes cooking utensil and makes contact with skull you > are now officially called a "pot head"! > > On Jan 27, 2017 11:09 PM, "Bill Masquelier via KRnet" > wrote: > >> I melt lead easily over an old Coleman camping stove in an old (junk) pot- >> no problem >> >> Bill Masquelier >> >> >> >> From: KRnet on behalf of Paul Visk via >> KRnet >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:26 PM >> To: KR EMAIL BOARD >> Cc: Paul Visk >> Subject: KR> Melting lead >> >> First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old pot >> to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some >> advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what your >> wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned?? >> >> How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet >> search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. >> >> >> Paul Visk >> >> Belleville Il. >> >> 618-406-4705 >> >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> >> www.krnet.org >> Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to >> control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. >> Unfortunately, this can ... >> >> >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options >> KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list. >> krnet.org> >> list.krnet.org >> KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of >> homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to >> the list ... >> >> >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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I feel like I cheated... I borrowed a lead melting kit from one of my plumbing contractors. If i remember correctly it was a small cast iron laddle with a pour lip on top of a stand of some sort with a propane torch with a larger flame head underneath. It only took several minutes to get it melted and ready to pour. FYI- I built the molds out of wood for my counter weights but with the burning you are only going to get 2 uses out of the mold which should be enough as I only used 2 counter weights for the alirons and pieces for the counter balance of the elevator. Joe Horton, N357CJ 17 8:21:12 AM Subject: Re: KR> Melting lead Paul Visk wrote: > How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I melted mine on a small standalone hot plate (so I could do it outside). The pot was a thin one with a lid, and it did take a long time, but it worked. This hot pad is a cheapo thing that's probably 50 years old, with a simple coil of nichrome wire in a spiral shape down in a piece of ceramic plate. I would think a gas stove should do the job... ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
Paul Visk wrote: > How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I melted mine on a small standalone hot plate (so I could do it outside). The pot was a thin one with a lid, and it did take a long time, but it worked. This hot pad is a cheapo thing that's probably 50 years old, with a simple coil of nichrome wire in a spiral shape down in a piece of ceramic plate. I would think a gas stove should do the job... Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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》what your wife considers an old pot is. 》Be forewarned. When it comes to the pan I learned the hard way. I was interrogated after the led melting operation had begun. We needed a new pan anyway. My fishing weights melted just fine on the stove but I haven't been fishing since. I also used the led weights for pinewood derby racing that can be purchased online or at the boy scout store. Joe Nunley Baker Florida ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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So when the wife takes cooking utensil and makes contact with skull you are now officially called a "pot head"! On Jan 27, 2017 11:09 PM, "Bill Masquelier via KRnet" wrote: > I melt lead easily over an old Coleman camping stove in an old (junk) pot- > no problem > > Bill Masquelier > > > > From: KRnet on behalf of Paul Visk via > KRnet > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:26 PM > To: KR EMAIL BOARD > Cc: Paul Visk > Subject: KR> Melting lead > > First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old pot > to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some > advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what your > wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned?? > > How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet > search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. > > > Paul Visk > > Belleville Il. > > 618-406-4705 > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> > www.krnet.org > Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to > control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. > Unfortunately, this can ... > > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list. > krnet.org> > list.krnet.org > KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of > homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to > the list ... > > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> Melting lead
I melt lead easily over an old Coleman camping stove in an old (junk) pot- no problem Bill Masquelier From: KRnet on behalf of Paul Visk via KRnet Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:26 PM To: KR EMAIL BOARD Cc: Paul Visk Subject: KR> Melting lead First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old pot to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what your wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned?? How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. Paul Visk Belleville Il. 618-406-4705 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> www.krnet.org Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. Unfortunately, this can ... see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> list.krnet.org KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to the list ... To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
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Or you might want to consider using lead shot mixed with epoxy resin and either flox or milled fibers. Makes it easy to mold to shape cold. Lead is a distinctly unhealthy material to be melting. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM Subject: KR> Melting lead First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old pot to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what your wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned😡 How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. Paul Visk Belleville Il. 618-406-4705 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
KR> Melting lead
First a comment before my question. In the book it says to use an old pot to melt lead down for the aileron counter weight. I'll give you some advise. What you consider an old pot is might be different then what your wife considers an old pot is. Be forewarned😡 How do you melt a 5 lbs chunk of lead on the stove? I did an internet search. Lead melts at 621 degrees. I'm not even getting close to that. Paul Visk Belleville Il. 618-406-4705 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org