KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-12 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
On Feb 12, 2015 3:11 PM, "Dan Heath via KRnet"  wrote:
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> Yes, keep the heat in the pipe.  This is good for many reasons.  Get your
pipes coated inside and out, or do it yourself.  I had Jet Hot do mine and
I believe that Mark L. does his.
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>

That's very interesting. Is it enough to keep head temps below 160 c?

How durable are the coatings?

Thanks!


KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-12 Thread peter
I wrapped my bd4 crossover pipes with ceramic tape from JC Whitney, to minimize 
heat conduction inside the cowl. I painted the engine white and the cowl 
interior black to maximize heat radiation to the cowl. The cowl exterior became 
noticeably hotter to the touch, so ideally you would use a conductive (i.e. no 
foam) cowl material. My Osprey cowl, made of polyester/fibreglass becomes quite 
plastic on the ground. Peter

It appears keeping the heat in the exhaust flow is the key.




KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-12 Thread Roger Bulla
I had a company in Denver do their version of ceramic coating on the inside 
and out side of my exhaust pipes. I have about 100 hours on them now and 
they have not discolored at all and do seem to help keep the temp down in 
the cowl. The coating seems very durable. I scrape the pipes pretty hard 
getting the cowl on and off without scraping the coating off.  I'll have to 
go through my records to come up with the name of the company.

Roger Bulla

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From: Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. via KRnet
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:01 AM
To: danrh at windstream.net ; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

On Feb 12, 2015 3:11 PM, "Dan Heath via KRnet"  wrote:
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> Yes, keep the heat in the pipe.
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KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-12 Thread danrh at windstream.net
Yes, keep the heat in the pipe.  This is good for many reasons.  Get your pipes 
coated inside and out, or do it yourself.  I had Jet Hot do mine and I believe 
that Mark L. does his.

It appears keeping 
the heat in the exhaust flow is the key.




KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-12 Thread rbaalman at cox.net
I met a guy at Oshkosh who had an RV 6 with a Lyc 360.  He had the piston tops, 
exhaust ports and exhaust pipes ceramic coated.  The cooling air inlets are 2 
1/8 diameter and  he has no problems with cooling issues.  It appears keeping 
the heat in the exhaust flow is the key.  Interesting stuff.
Roger Baalman
rbaalman at cox.net

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> > That means if we don't alter anything else but reduce absorption, can
> > we see a significant drop in cylinder head temps?
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> > Maybe an effective thermal barrier coated exhaust port makes a
> > difference? Anybody tried that yet?
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KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-10 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Hi,

Slightly OT but i don't know where to ask.

Is heat absorption from exhaust port walls more significant than that
absorbed from chamber walls?

That means if we don't alter anything else but reduce absorption, can
we see a significant drop in cylinder head temps?

Maybe an effective thermal barrier coated exhaust port makes a
difference? Anybody tried that yet?



KR> OT: heat rejection capacity from exhaust port walls

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Depends on port and chamber design of a given engine. The exhaust ports 
are typically the hottest areas on the cylinder head. If we're talking 
VWs, the exhaust port areas are designed to be fan-cooled. Thermal 
barriers work, so I would think a reduction in heat absorption would 
occur. Significant reduction? I think you would have to try it and 
measure the results to see how effective it would be. I doubt if the 
results could be predicted.

Chris


On 2/10/2015 4:39 AM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. via KRnet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Slightly OT but i don't know where to ask.
>
> Is heat absorption from exhaust port walls more significant than that
> absorbed from chamber walls?
>
> That means if we don't alter anything else but reduce absorption, can
> we see a significant drop in cylinder head temps?
>
> Maybe an effective thermal barrier coated exhaust port makes a
> difference? Anybody tried that yet?
>
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