KR> Odd wing tips...

[Mike Arnold]

Hey Steve can you send me a pic for a 2s w/ corvair and price.
marnold771 at gmail.com
On Apr 11, 2016 2:53 PM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I did and responded back to the net. See below. I didn't see it show up so
> maybe it didn't go through.
>
> "Yes. We have 12 different KR cowls. Everything from Dan Diehl and all the
> rand molds for the 2 and 2S. We have splashes from Marty's, Dan D's, and
> Steve Alderman's 0200's as well."
>
> Steve Glover
>
> Sent from my electronic leash.
>
> > On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:42, Mike Arnold via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve did you get my inquiry on engine cowls for a KR2S?
> >> On Apr 11, 2016 9:50 AM, "Steve G. via KRnet" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Joe,
> >>
> >> Here is the plug for the new airfoil.  We would pull the mold from
> these.
> >> The sweep is a little more subtle than what you currently have.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
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> >> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
> >>
> >> Steve,
> >> Do you have any pictures of  the wing tips that might be available?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Joe Horton
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Steve G. via KRnet" 
> >> To: "KRnet" 
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
> >>
> >> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
> >> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components
> >>
> >> Steve Glover
> >>
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Mike Arnold]

Steve did you get my inquiry on engine cowls for a KR2S?
On Apr 11, 2016 9:50 AM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> Here is the plug for the new airfoil.  We would pull the mold from these.
> The sweep is a little more subtle than what you currently have.
>
> Steve
>
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> KRnet
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> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
>
> Steve,
> Do you have any pictures of  the wing tips that might be available?
> Thanks,
> Joe Horton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve G. via KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
>
> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
>
> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components
>
> Steve Glover
>
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Steve G.]

Hi Mike,

I did and responded back to the net. See below. I didn't see it show up so 
maybe it didn't go through.

"Yes. We have 12 different KR cowls. Everything from Dan Diehl and all the rand 
molds for the 2 and 2S. We have splashes from Marty's, Dan D's, and Steve 
Alderman's 0200's as well."

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:42, Mike Arnold via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Steve did you get my inquiry on engine cowls for a KR2S?
>> On Apr 11, 2016 9:50 AM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Here is the plug for the new airfoil.  We would pull the mold from these.
>> The sweep is a little more subtle than what you currently have.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of n357cj via
>> KRnet
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:27 AM
>> To: KRnet
>> Cc: n357cj
>> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
>> 
>> Steve,
>> Do you have any pictures of  the wing tips that might be available?
>> Thanks,
>> Joe Horton
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Steve G. via KRnet" 
>> To: "KRnet" 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...
>> 
>> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
>> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components
>> 
>> Steve Glover
>> 
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[n357cj]

Steve,
Do you have any pictures of  the wing tips that might be available?
Thanks,
Joe Horton

- Original Message -
From: "Steve G. via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 

Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...

If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip molds. 
What a concept huh? Prefabbed components 

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

KR> Odd wing tips...

[Steve G.]

Hi Joe,

Here is the plug for the new airfoil.  We would pull the mold from these.
The sweep is a little more subtle than what you currently have.

Steve

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KRnet
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 6:27 AM
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Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...

Steve,
Do you have any pictures of  the wing tips that might be available?
Thanks,
Joe Horton

- Original Message -
From: "Steve G. via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 

Subject: Re: KR> Odd wing tips...

If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components 

Steve Glover

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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Larry Flesner]

>  I find the wingtips on my son???s  project more than a bit odd.



If you were air, would you want to meet that wing 
tip face to face?  It looks like a real drag 
bucket.  You can mount lights on a Horner tip 
just fine.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/100_5553.JPG

When building, I was concerned on getting two 
identical tips.  The method I used turned out to 
give me a perfect Horner tip. Is that the way they originated, by accident?

The method I used was to glass the top surface of 
the tip first.  Straight sand the tip to 90 
degrees of the forward spar.  Flip wing to bottom 
side up and draw a line inboard of the tip and 
parallel to the top.  I used a line between two 
foam blocks 4 inches inboard of the tip.  I think 
5 or 6 inches would have been better with the 
thick RAF48 wing.  Use the hard glass tip on the 
top surface of the tip and the line on the bottom 
to straight sand the tip.  The shape changes as 
the thickness of the wing changes but it remains 
a straight line.  When sanded, put a small radius 
on the lead edge (I used a 4 inch mixing cup) and 
a smaller radius on the trail edge ( I used the 
rounded corner of a tape measure body).  Hand 
sand the lead edge to a nice radius and put the 
radius on the very thin trail edge.   When 
finished, apply glass.  It is a very easy process 
to duplicate and when finished I realized I had 
created a perfect Horner tip.  The reason the tip 
works is because the high pressure air on the 
bottom has difficulty making the very sharp 
corner to reach the low pressure on the top of 
the wing, basically performing the same function 
as strake tip you see on airliners, etc..

Larry Flesner 

KR> Odd wing tips...

[Mike Arnold]

Steve do you make engine cowls. KR2S
On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 AM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  wrote:

> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components
>
> Steve Glover
>
> Sent from my electronic leash.
>
> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 05:34, Robert7721 via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > Owen,
> >
> >
> > The only real comment in the KR manual on how to build the wing tips is
> to "build them alike". If you plan to put lights on the ends, run the
> wiring now.   Might not be easy later on. I flew mine for a year before I
> installed the lights but they were wired during building.
> >
> >
> > Photo of my wing construction is at;
> >
> >
> > http://www.robert7721.com/wings.html
> >
> >
> > I've seen lots of different options on KR wing tips, it really is just a
> builder preference.
> >
> >
> > Rob Schmitt
> > N1852Z
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: svd via KRnet 
> > To: krnet 
> > Cc: svd 
> > Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 2:02 am
> > Subject: KR> Odd wing tips...
> >
> > To the aerodynamically minded out there.I find the wingtips on my son?s
> project more than a bit odd. It looks like the front edge is squared of
> ~90deg to mount wingtip lights, and then failed back into the Hoerner
> bevel.See bottom of:http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php <
> http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php>Its hard to see from the
> images but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty dramatic.Any thoughts?
> Should I cut it off and maintain a standard Hoerner
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Paul Visk]

Steve, ?Do you have the wing tips for the AS5046/ AS5048 airfoils??
Paul ViskBelleville Il?618 406 4705?

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 Original message ...
If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip molds. 
What a concept huh? Prefabbed components 

Steve Glover

KR> Odd wing tips...

[Robert7721]

Owen,


The only real comment in the KR manual on how to build the wing tips is to 
"build them alike". If you plan to put lights on the ends, run the wiring now.  
 Might not be easy later on. I flew mine for a year before I installed the 
lights but they were wired during building.


Photo of my wing construction is at;


http://www.robert7721.com/wings.html


I've seen lots of different options on KR wing tips, it really is just a 
builder preference. 


Rob Schmitt
N1852Z




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To: krnet 
Cc: svd 
Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 2:02 am
Subject: KR> Odd wing tips...

To the aerodynamically minded out there.I find the wingtips on my son?s  
project more than a bit odd. It looks like the front edge is squared of ~90deg 
to mount wingtip lights, and then failed back into the Hoerner bevel.See bottom 
of:http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php 
<http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php>Its hard to see from the images 
but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty dramatic.Any thoughts?  Should I cut it 
off and maintain a standard Hoerner 
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Steve G.]

Hi Paul,

On our Prefabbed skins they are built in similar to theDiehl airfoil with a 
slight swept tip. I imagine we could take a splash off of plugs and make just 
the tips. 

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Apr 10, 2016, at 08:00, Paul Visk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Steve,  Do you have the wing tips for the AS5046/ AS5048 airfoils? 
> Paul ViskBelleville Il 618 406 4705 
> 
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.
>  Original message ...
> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip 
> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components 
> 
> Steve Glover
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Steve G.]

Yes. We have 12 different KR cowls. Everything from Dan Diehl and all the rand 
molds for the 2 and 2S. We have splashes from Marty's, Dan D's, and Steve 
Alderman's 0200's as well. 

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Apr 10, 2016, at 07:07, Mike Arnold via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Steve do you make engine cowls. KR2S
>> On Apr 10, 2016 9:02 AM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip
>> molds. What a concept huh? Prefabbed components
>> 
>> Steve Glover
>> 
>> Sent from my electronic leash.
>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2016, at 05:34, Robert7721 via KRnet 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Owen,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The only real comment in the KR manual on how to build the wing tips is
>> to "build them alike". If you plan to put lights on the ends, run the
>> wiring now.   Might not be easy later on. I flew mine for a year before I
>> installed the lights but they were wired during building.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Photo of my wing construction is at;
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.robert7721.com/wings.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've seen lots of different options on KR wing tips, it really is just a
>> builder preference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rob Schmitt
>>> N1852Z
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: svd via KRnet 
>>> To: krnet 
>>> Cc: svd 
>>> Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 2:02 am
>>> Subject: KR> Odd wing tips...
>>> 
>>> To the aerodynamically minded out there.I find the wingtips on my son?s
>> project more than a bit odd. It looks like the front edge is squared of
>> ~90deg to mount wingtip lights, and then failed back into the Hoerner
>> bevel.See bottom of:http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php <
>> http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php>Its hard to see from the
>> images but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty dramatic.Any thoughts?
>> Should I cut it off and maintain a standard Hoerner
>> bevel?Owen___Search the KRnet
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Steve G.]

If you want them correct without much work we do have the Rand wing tip molds. 
What a concept huh? Prefabbed components 

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash. 

> On Apr 10, 2016, at 05:34, Robert7721 via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Owen,
> 
> 
> The only real comment in the KR manual on how to build the wing tips is to 
> "build them alike". If you plan to put lights on the ends, run the wiring 
> now.   Might not be easy later on. I flew mine for a year before I installed 
> the lights but they were wired during building.
> 
> 
> Photo of my wing construction is at;
> 
> 
> http://www.robert7721.com/wings.html
> 
> 
> I've seen lots of different options on KR wing tips, it really is just a 
> builder preference. 
> 
> 
> Rob Schmitt
> N1852Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: svd via KRnet 
> To: krnet 
> Cc: svd 
> Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 2:02 am
> Subject: KR> Odd wing tips...
> 
> To the aerodynamically minded out there.I find the wingtips on my son?s  
> project more than a bit odd. It looks like the front edge is squared of 
> ~90deg to mount wingtip lights, and then failed back into the Hoerner 
> bevel.See bottom of:http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php 
> <http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php>Its hard to see from the images 
> but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty dramatic.Any thoughts?  Should I cut 
> it off and maintain a standard Hoerner 
> bevel?Owen___Search the KRnet 
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KR> Odd wing tips...

[Chris Kinnaman]

It is hard to see but if the tip is different from the typical Hoerner 
tip, it probably won't work like a Hoerner tip. IIRC Hoerner tried a 
number of configurations to arrive on what is now known as a Hoerner 
tip, so, there are probably a number of close-but-not-quite variants 
that Hoerner found to be less effective.

Chris

On 4/10/2016 1:01 AM, svd via KRnet wrote:
> Its hard to see from the images but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty 
> dramatic.
>
> Any thoughts?  Should I cut it off and maintain a standard Hoerner bevel?
>
> Owen
>

KR> Odd wing tips...

[svd]

To the aerodynamically minded out there.

I find the wingtips on my son?s  project more than a bit odd. 

It looks like the front edge is squared of ~90deg to mount wingtip lights, and 
then failed back into the Hoerner bevel.

See bottom of:
http://hugheskr2s.yolasite.com/progress.php 



Its hard to see from the images but, but the "reverse fillet" is pretty 
dramatic.

Any thoughts?  Should I cut it off and maintain a standard Hoerner bevel?

Owen