Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bug 104954 - DOCX Export: Heading Styles are Wrong when Open with MSO 2010 (because of translation conflict of "Heading" and "Title")

2016-12-28 Thread 锁琨珑

Hi Cheng-Chia, see my reply below:

在 12/29/2016 02:06 PM, Cheng-Chia Tseng 写道:

锁琨珑  於 2016年12月29日 週四 下午12:35寫道:


Dear All:

I encountered a bug related to docx export and have managed to find a
solution for this.  The bug is, in some non-english UI, if you apply
some paragraphs the "Heading 1" style then save this document as DOCX,
when reopen with MSO2010 the heading 1 style is showing as inherit from
"Title", which causes all paragraphs of Heading 1 style to be centered
in MSO2010.

The workaround of this issue is to change the translation of "Heading"
to something different than the localized string for "Title" as shown in
MSO2010. For example, in MSO 2010 the style name for "Title" is "标题",
although the word "Heading" has the same meaning "标题" in Chinese, I
intentionally changed the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式" (meaning
"Heading Styles") so that it does not conflict with the Title style in
MSO2010.


I don't think translating "Heading 1" from "标题 1" to "标题样式 1" would fix the
problem.

If you check the docx file in MSO2010, "Heading 1" still is "Heading 1"
style, no matter what the translation is.

The problem is that the formatting style of Heading 1 (align to the left)
in docx file exported by LibreOffice would change (center) in MSO2010.

No, I don't mean to change from "Heading 1" to "标题样式 1", I only mean to 
change "Heading" to "标题样式". All the translations for the other "Heading 
N" styles need not be changed. Remember in Writer "Heading N" are all 
based on "Heading".
I don't know the reason behind this, but this change really solves my 
problem.
If you look at the docx in MSO2010, before make the changes, "标题 1" is 
Based On (基于) "Title (标题)", which is wrong. It should be Based On 
"Heading" in MSO 2010. "Title (标题)" is centered, this caused the heading 
1 centered.
After the change the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式", "标题 1" is 
Based On (基于) "Heading (标题样式)", which is correct.

This may be a bug for MSO2010, not for LibreOffice. However, to make the
DOCX files created by LibreOffice showing the correct formating in
MSO2010, I suggest all language teams to check whether this issue exists
in your language, and if yes, make the changes in pootle accordingly.

See bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104954 for
more details.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bug 104954 - DOCX Export: Heading Styles are Wrong when Open with MSO 2010 (because of translation conflict of "Heading" and "Title")

2016-12-28 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
锁琨珑  於 2016年12月29日 週四 下午12:35寫道:

> Dear All:
>
> I encountered a bug related to docx export and have managed to find a
> solution for this.  The bug is, in some non-english UI, if you apply
> some paragraphs the "Heading 1" style then save this document as DOCX,
> when reopen with MSO2010 the heading 1 style is showing as inherit from
> "Title", which causes all paragraphs of Heading 1 style to be centered
> in MSO2010.
>
> The workaround of this issue is to change the translation of "Heading"
> to something different than the localized string for "Title" as shown in
> MSO2010. For example, in MSO 2010 the style name for "Title" is "标题",
> although the word "Heading" has the same meaning "标题" in Chinese, I
> intentionally changed the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式" (meaning
> "Heading Styles") so that it does not conflict with the Title style in
> MSO2010.
>

I don't think translating "Heading 1" from "标题 1" to "标题样式 1" would fix the
problem.

If you check the docx file in MSO2010, "Heading 1" still is "Heading 1"
style, no matter what the translation is.

The problem is that the formatting style of Heading 1 (align to the left)
in docx file exported by LibreOffice would change (center) in MSO2010.


> This may be a bug for MSO2010, not for LibreOffice. However, to make the
> DOCX files created by LibreOffice showing the correct formating in
> MSO2010, I suggest all language teams to check whether this issue exists
> in your language, and if yes, make the changes in pootle accordingly.
>
> See bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104954 for
> more details.
>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Bug 104954 - DOCX Export: Heading Styles are Wrong when Open with MSO 2010 (because of translation conflict of "Heading" and "Title")

2016-12-28 Thread 锁琨珑

Dear All:

I encountered a bug related to docx export and have managed to find a 
solution for this.  The bug is, in some non-english UI, if you apply 
some paragraphs the "Heading 1" style then save this document as DOCX, 
when reopen with MSO2010 the heading 1 style is showing as inherit from 
"Title", which causes all paragraphs of Heading 1 style to be centered 
in MSO2010.


The workaround of this issue is to change the translation of "Heading" 
to something different than the localized string for "Title" as shown in 
MSO2010. For example, in MSO 2010 the style name for "Title" is "标题", 
although the word "Heading" has the same meaning "标题" in Chinese, I 
intentionally changed the translation of "Heading" to "标题样式" (meaning 
"Heading Styles") so that it does not conflict with the Title style in 
MSO2010.


This may be a bug for MSO2010, not for LibreOffice. However, to make the 
DOCX files created by LibreOffice showing the correct formating in 
MSO2010, I suggest all language teams to check whether this issue exists 
in your language, and if yes, make the changes in pootle accordingly.


See bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104954 for 
more details.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Double messages in mailing list

2016-12-28 Thread Kevin Suo
I encounter the double messages because I registered two of my email addresses 
to the mailing list and I configured one of my email to Auto forward all 
messages to the other email.

Maybe it ia the same issue for you.

Kevin Suo

于 2016年12月28日 GMT+08:0021:36:39, Michael Wolf  写到:
>Olivier Hallot schrieb:
>
>> You're right. I use Thunderbird and sometimes I receive a html
>doubled
>> with a text-only copy. I have no clue on where to start chasing this.
>> Apparently it depends on the sender settings too.
>
>Hi Olivier,
>
>the issue occurs both in Seamonkey, Thunderbird, and in the webmail 
>client of my email provider. It affects incoming and outgoing (my) 
>messages. And it affects the LO mailing list only.
>
>Michael
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

2016-12-28 Thread Elanjelian Venugopal
Hi Sophie,

On 28 December 2016 at 18:19, Sophie  wrote:

> Hi Cor,
> Le 28/12/2016 à 09:49, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> > Sophie wrote on 26-12-16 17:40:
> >> Le 24/12/2016 à 07:25, Elanjelian Venugopal a écrit :
> >
> >>> Thanks for this. Looks good. Only that I am not able to locate the
> detailed
> >>> translation stats that the earlier version had. Is there a way to view
> it?
> >>> The current version only states the score for the last 30 days. Thanks.
> >>
> >> What stats are you talking about? ...
> >
> > For example the link to my statistics
> >  https://translations.documentfoundation.org/user/cornouws/
> > In the previous version all sort of details could be seen over many
> > months. (I know one committee too, that is interested in these.)
> >
> >
> ah, ok, I never use this area. I put it on my list of questions for
> Dwayne, maybe it's a setting.
>


Cor got it right. We found the monthly user contribution stats useful, and
I even compensate one of my staff who translates LO based on this. The
stats also gave us an option to zoom in to specific translations and check
on the quality. Very useful. Now, almost nothing is there.

Best regards,
Elanjelian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Le 28/12/2016 à 14:53, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Sophie schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Cloph is on it, I'll tell you when it's available.
>> Cheers
> 
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> are translations.documentfoundation.org and mozilla.locamotion.org on
> the same server? In newsgroup mozilla.dev.l10n Leandro Rogueiro told
> that there is a Pootle mozilla locamotion upgrade. I ask this because
> Dwayne Bailey administrates both domains. On the other hand, it is for
> mozilla.locamotion.org only.

Pootle instance is on own TDF infra but Dwayne has also access to it.
Cloph was running a db-migration to get some fixes with UTF8 type and he
didn't expect it took that time. I'll keep you informed, but it
shouldn't take long now.
Cheers
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Wolf

Sophie schrieb:

Hi,

Cloph is on it, I'll tell you when it's available.
Cheers


Hi Sophie,

are translations.documentfoundation.org and mozilla.locamotion.org on 
the same server? In newsgroup mozilla.dev.l10n Leandro Rogueiro told 
that there is a Pootle mozilla locamotion upgrade. I ask this because 
Dwayne Bailey administrates both domains. On the other hand, it is for 
mozilla.locamotion.org only.


Michael


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Wolf

Sophie schrieb:

Hi,

Cloph is on it, I'll tell you when it's available.
Cheers


Thank you Sophie.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Double messages in mailing list

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Wolf

Olivier Hallot schrieb:


You're right. I use Thunderbird and sometimes I receive a html doubled
with a text-only copy. I have no clue on where to start chasing this.
Apparently it depends on the sender settings too.


Hi Olivier,

the issue occurs both in Seamonkey, Thunderbird, and in the webmail 
client of my email provider. It affects incoming and outgoing (my) 
messages. And it affects the LO mailing list only.


Michael


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi,

Cloph is on it, I'll tell you when it's available.
Cheers
Sophie
Le 28/12/2016 à 13:40, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> what's now? Pootle server translations.documentfoundation.org does not
> load anymore.
> 
> Michael
> Translator for
> Upper and Lower Sorbian
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Double messages in mailing list

2016-12-28 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Michael


Em 28/12/2016 11:12, Sophie escreveu:
> Hi Michael,
> Le 28/12/2016 à 13:46, Michael Wolf a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have the issue that my messages in the LO mailing list appear twice.
>> Maybe I caused myself this issue when I subscribed to the mailing list.
>>
>> Can anyone help? Thanks.
> They appear only once for me and on the list, see
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/L10n-f1630956.html
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
You're right. I use Thunderbird and sometimes I receive a html doubled
with a text-only copy. I have no clue on where to start chasing this.
Apparently it depends on the sender settings too.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Double messages in mailing list

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi Michael,
Le 28/12/2016 à 13:46, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I have the issue that my messages in the LO mailing list appear twice.
> Maybe I caused myself this issue when I subscribed to the mailing list.
> 
> Can anyone help? Thanks.

They appear only once for me and on the list, see
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/L10n-f1630956.html

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi Michael
Le 28/12/2016 à 13:40, Michael Wolf a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> what's now? Pootle server translations.documentfoundation.org does not
> load anymore.

I pinged the infra team via our telegram channel, I'll keep you informed.
Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Double messages in mailing list

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Wolf

Hi,

I have the issue that my messages in the LO mailing list appear twice. 
Maybe I caused myself this issue when I subscribed to the mailing list.


Can anyone help? Thanks.

Michael Wolf aka milupo

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server does not load

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Wolf

Hi,

what's now? Pootle server translations.documentfoundation.org does not 
load anymore.


Michael
Translator for
Upper and Lower Sorbian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi Christian,
Le 28/12/2016 à 07:23, Christian Kühl a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> Am 21.12.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Sophie:
>>
>> Let me know if you find anything wrong
> 
> I can't log in with my user name ("Kü"), and always get a server error.
> I think it's a problem with german umlauts as I have had another problem
> for the last great upgrade of Pootle server with this.
> 
> The shown of server error is permanent and could only be solved by
> deleting the session cookie.

Cloph has reported your problem to Dwayne, his team is investigating
your issue with umlauts. They have been able to solve it last time, hope
that will be fixed soon now.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi Cor,
Le 28/12/2016 à 09:49, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Sophie wrote on 26-12-16 17:40:
>> Le 24/12/2016 à 07:25, Elanjelian Venugopal a écrit :
> 
>>> Thanks for this. Looks good. Only that I am not able to locate the detailed
>>> translation stats that the earlier version had. Is there a way to view it?
>>> The current version only states the score for the last 30 days. Thanks.
>>
>> What stats are you talking about? ...
> 
> For example the link to my statistics
>  https://translations.documentfoundation.org/user/cornouws/
> In the previous version all sort of details could be seen over many
> months. (I know one committee too, that is interested in these.)
> 
> 
ah, ok, I never use this area. I put it on my list of questions for
Dwayne, maybe it's a setting.
Cheers
Sophie

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Kab localization

2016-12-28 Thread Muḥend Belqasem
Hi Sophi,e

Thanks for your support.

Sorry, maybe a client bug with my Firefox. When I was uploading files from
(4.1, 4.2 to master), I faced this issue. Now it's ok.

My dashboard shows 240 review suggestions when i uploaded po files (from
4.1 and 4.2 with modification of file paths), but when I click nothing is
dispalayed.

Regards

2016-12-28 10:15 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Muhend,
> Le 27/12/2016 à 21:55, Muḥend Belqasem a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I was translating LibreOffice Master on kabyle locale, the dashboard
> > shows 44.3%. And suddenly I'am seeing 28.1%
> >
> > Could you please check what's happenning there?
>
> From what I see, master UI is currently at 44.5%, where do you see 28.1%?
> Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Kab localization

2016-12-28 Thread Sophie
Hi Muhend,
Le 27/12/2016 à 21:55, Muḥend Belqasem a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> When I was translating LibreOffice Master on kabyle locale, the dashboard
> shows 44.3%. And suddenly I'am seeing 28.1%
> 
> Could you please check what's happenning there?

From what I see, master UI is currently at 44.5%, where do you see 28.1%?
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade and migration finished

2016-12-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Sophie wrote on 26-12-16 17:40:
> Le 24/12/2016 à 07:25, Elanjelian Venugopal a écrit :

>> Thanks for this. Looks good. Only that I am not able to locate the detailed
>> translation stats that the earlier version had. Is there a way to view it?
>> The current version only states the score for the last 30 days. Thanks.
> 
> What stats are you talking about? ...

For example the link to my statistics
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/user/cornouws/
In the previous version all sort of details could be seen over many
months. (I know one committee too, that is interested in these.)


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