Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice download page: Two short strings to translate

2018-03-20 Thread Harri Pitkänen

Hi!

Here is the Finnish translation:


To choose another language, click here.


Napsauta tästä valitaksesi toisen kielen.

Older versions of LibreOffice (may be unsupported!) are available in 
the

archive.


Vanhempia LibreOfficen versioita (joita ei välttämättä tueta!) löytyy 
arkistosta.



Mike Saunders kirjoitti 2018-03-16 15:48:

We've added two new strings to the download page, and I've worked out
how to make them localisable in SilverStripe. (I will also investigate
linking it with Pootle but that may take some time!) So in the 
meantime,

if you want to translate these strings into your local language, just
reply here (and mention the language), then I'll add them to the
relevant file in SilverStripe:



Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 4.3 and 4.4 projects removal from Pootle

2016-04-19 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

Finnish (fi) can be removed.

Harri


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Another error uploading a single file in Pootle

2015-06-23 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Tuesday 23 June 2015 13:36:01 Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 The size-limit has been lifted and also the timeout when exporting
 projects has been increased.

I still get 504 Gateway Time-out when I try to export the whole project 
/fi/libo_ui/ for offline translation. Exporting individual .po files works 
fine so this is not a big problem for me. Perhaps still worth looking into.

Harri

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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Duplicate filter/source/config/fragments in Pootle for Finnish

2014-01-19 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Friday 17 January 2014 19:52:24 Harri Pitkänen wrote:
 Could someone please help me and remove the duplicates? I have a local copy
 of the affected file (in fact all files) that I can try re-uploading so no
 need to worry about loosing anything if you just delete those files from
 Pootle.

I just uploaded another file under /officecfg and the duplicate under /filter 
disappeared. Strange thing, probably some temporary file from Pootle? Anyway, 
all is fine now, sorry for the noise.

Harri

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[libreoffice-l10n] Duplicate filter/source/config/fragments in Pootle for Finnish

2014-01-17 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

An internal error occurred in Pootle while I was uploading some updates to the 
UI translation for Finnish. Now there seems to be duplicate files that I 
cannot remove myself. Trying to access

  
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/fi/libo_ui/filter/source/config/fragments/

just says:


get() returned more than one Directory -- it returned 2! Lookup parameters 
were {'pootle_path': u'/fi/libo_ui/filter/source/config/fragments/'}
If you need assistance, you may refer to this error as 
459cd7b99871469ba83b01f2d1de6afd$61c6fb835459476568ee3531dfbb83ed.


Could someone please help me and remove the duplicates? I have a local copy of 
the affected file (in fact all files) that I can try re-uploading so no need 
to worry about loosing anything if you just delete those files from Pootle.

Thanks,
Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page

2013-04-09 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Tuesday 09 April 2013, Andras Timar wrote:
 The translations were uploaded today. Also, the list of the supported
 languages in WikiHelp has been extended. So I'm looking forward to
 receiving the missing translations from you. Please check
 https://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page

Thanks for extending the support to new languages! I have attached the Finnish 
translation of the main page at the end of this message.

Harri



{{Lang|Tervetuloa {{ProductName}}n ohjeisiin!}}
div id=mf-page title=Welcome
Kiitos, että käytät [http://fi.libreoffice.org/lataa/ {{ProductName}}]n 
ohjeita. Käyttäessäsi {{ProductName}}a pääset näihin ohjeisiin painamalla F1-
näppäintä. Vaihtoehtoisesti voit asentaa omalle kielellesi tehdyn ohjepaketin 
koneellesi, jolloin verkkoyhteyttä ei tarvita.

Jos haluat selata ohjeita, pääset liikkeelle seuraavilta sovelluskohtaisilta 
aloitussivuilta:

* [[Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Writer]] 
(tekstinkäsittely)
* [[Calc/Welcome_to_the_Calc_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Calc]] (taulukkolaskenta)
* [[Impress/Welcome_to_the_Impress_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Impress]] 
(esitysgrafiikka)
* [[Draw/Welcome_to_the_Draw_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Draw]] (piirtäminen)
* [[Common/Database_1/fi|{{ProductName}} Base]] (tietokantojen hallinta)
* [[Math/Welcome_to_the_Math_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Math]] (kaavojen 
muokkaaminen)
* [[Basic/Basic_Help/fi|{{ProductName}} Basic]] (ohjelmointi Basic-kielellä)

== Kuinka voit osallistua ==

Tällä hetkellä parantelemme vielä työkaluja, joilla sovelluksen ohjeista 
muodostetaan nämä verkkosivut. Myöhemmin voit osallistua ohjeiden sisällön 
kehittämiseen. Suunnitelmat on kuvattu 
[http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp/fi The Document 
Foundationin wikissä].

Katso [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents MediaWikin käyttöoppaasta] 
ohjeita wiki-ohjelmiston käyttöön.
/div

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Google Play Store - in need of translation

2013-02-09 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Friday 08 February 2013, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
 with our 4.0.0 release and the new Impress Remote for Android, TDF now
 has an official Google Play Store - first item there being:
 
  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.libreoffice.impressremot
 e

Here is the Finnish translation:

Lataa itsellesi ilmainen diaesitysten kauko-ohjaussovellus LibreOfficelle! 
LibreOfficen Impress-kauko-ohjain on sovellus, jonka avulla voit ohjata 
diaesitystäsi Android-laitteellasi. Lisäksi voit muun muassa esikatsella 
esityksen seuraavia dioja ja lukea luennoitsijan muistiinpanoja.
** Huomaa, että kauko-ohjaus toimii toistaiseksi vain Linux-jakelun mukana 
tulevan LibreOffice 4.0.0:n kanssa. Tukea muille käyttöjärjestelmille on 
tulossa versiosta 4.0.1 lähtien. **

Tarkat ohjeet tämän ohjelmiston käyttämiseksi ovat luettavissa osoitteessa 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo

LibreOffice on tehokas, ilmainen ja vapaa avoimen lähdekoodin toimisto-
ohjelmisto Windowsille, Macille ja GNU/Linuxille. Se koostuu kuudesta 
monipuolisesta sovelluksesta, jotka täyttävät kaikki asiakirjojen tuottamisen 
ja tietojen käsittelyn tarpeesi: Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Math ja Base. 
Tukea ja ohjeita saa ilmaiseksi laajalta ja osaavalta yhteisöltämme, joka 
koostuu käyttäjistä ja kehittäjistä.

Lataa LibreOffice osoitteesta http://fi.libreoffice.org/lataa/

LibreOffice ja LibreOfficen Impress-kauko-ohjain ovat yhteisöllisesti 
kehitettyjä ohjelmistoja projektissa, jota johtaa yleishyödyllinen säätiö 
nimeltä The Document Foundation.

Tämän ohjelmiston ovat kehittäneet käyttäjät, kuten sinä, jotka uskovat 
vapaiden ohjelmistojen periaatteeseen ja töidensä julkiseen jakamiseen ilman 
turhia rajoituksia. Löydät meidät osoitteesta

http://fi.libreoffice.org/osallistu/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version

2012-03-05 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Friday 02 March 2012, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 - Are you doing manual tests on the builds?
   . on the RC only?

RCs and Betas (when available).

   . using Litmus?

No.

 - Are you running other types of tests
   .which one?

Testing in everyday use + checking for localization errors.

 - You are not doing any tests
   . because you don't have the manpower to run them

Lack of manpower means we don't test every release and all of the testing we 
do tends to be mostly uncoordinated.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-20 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Thursday 12 January 2012, Eike Rathke wrote:
 If in your locale input of incomplete/abbreviated dates shall be
 allowed, this will need a DateAcceptancePattern element be added to
 locale data, for example in en-US it's M/D and in de-DE it's D.M.
 (both already in).
 
 Just mail me the pattern(s) for your locale, I'll add it then.

For Finnish (fi_FI) please add D.M., I don't think other abbreviated formats 
are used here.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Online update service + localized download URLs

2012-01-03 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Monday 02 January 2012, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
 The service that warns you that there is a newer LibreOffice version out
 is up  running, and when you have Beta1, it should inform you about the
 availability of Beta2, and offer you to redirect to its download page.
 
 Our QA guys noticed that the URLs it offers are not localized; ie. you
 are always pointed to the International download URLs, while in many
 cases there are nice translated pages.  Here I need your help :-)
 Please - can you fill in the following form for your language, and send
 back to me?

Language: fi
Download page: http://fi.libreoffice.org/lataa/
Pre-release download page: http://fi.libreoffice.org/lataa/testiversioita/


Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-22 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Monday 21 November 2011, Eike Rathke wrote:
 On Sunday, 2011-11-20 14:30:23 +0200, Harri Pitkänen wrote:
  Has
  anyone checked how this affects interoperability with Excel?
 
 I think they use a similar approach for genitive case names (use them if
 a day of month is present), but I haven't heard of partitive case.

It seems that things are a little bit complicated with Finnish Excel. 
Essentially it does not have this feature directly in the date format 
implementation but instead they have hardcoded the partitive suffix into those 
predefined date formats that need it.

I tested this by creating a file in Excel and entering a date with different 
formats. Then I saved it and opened the same file in LibreOffice 3.4.4. The 
result can be seen in this screenshot:

  http://www.puimula.org/htp/libreoffice/dformat.png

- The predefined format for the date containing partitive month names 
translates to format string

  [$-40B]P\. \t\a;@

(P is Finnish format character for day of month and  is full month name.). 
You can see that Excel hardcodes characters ta at the end of the month name. 
This is visible when you open the file in LibreOffice but can also be seen 
within Excel if choose the format and then go to custom format edit view.

There is no direct support for genitive month names in Finnish Excel (thus no 
predefined formats where day of month precedes the month name), but of course 
you can create the custom format yourself. So actually the current 
implementation in Excel matches pretty much exactly LibreOffice 3.4.4 for 
Finnish.

It seems to me that the intelligent month name format would lead to doubled 
partitive suffixes when a document created in Excel is opened in LibreOffice. 
We could avoid that by modifying the rule a bit: in case format specifier  
(or  in the Finnish example above) is immediately followed by a character 
literal, nominative form is used even if there is day of month present in the 
format. This would also avoid problems with older OpenDocument files where 
people may have used similar hardcoded suffixes.

Even then users who take advantage of the new feature in LibreOffice will see 
the month names incorrectly if they open the file in Excel. I don't see this 
as a problem since no data is lost, the formatting problem is minor and it is 
really just a missing feature in Excel which we cannot fix anyway.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-20 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Sunday 20 November 2011, Eike Rathke wrote:
 On Saturday, 2011-11-19 22:12:50 +0200, Harri Pitkänen wrote:
  Similar problem with Finnish. We need to use genitive or partitive
  depending on whether the month name comes before or after the day of
  month. So you can write the date for today either as
  
marraskuun 19. 2011 (genitive) or
19. marraskuuta 2011 (partitive)
 
 Does this mean that Finnish actually uses three forms of month names,
 nominative, genitive and partitive? fi_FI.xml contains marraskuu for
 November, so it looks like.

Yes. Or more precisely we have 14 forms for month names but these three are 
the ones that are actually used in date expressions.

 Hmm.. I could add also a partitive form to locale data and use that in
 the number formatter. Is the rule simply always that if the day precedes
 the month the genitive is used, and if the day follows the month the
 partitive is used?

Well the genitive and partitive need to be swapped here but othewise, yes. So 
the complete rule looks like this:

- If there is no day of month in the format, use nominative form for the 
month.
- If the day is before month, use partitive form for the month.
- Otherwise (that is, if the day is after month) use genitive form.

These rules are valid even if there are additional words between the day and 
month.

Here are some real word examples of valid Finnish date formats:

  - use nominative for 
      - use nominative for 
  D.  - use partitive for 
  D. päivä  - use partitive for 
   D. - use genitive for 
   D. - use genitive for 
   D. päivä - use genitive for 

 I could get that in quite easily if the rule is simply what I assumed
 above.

It should be as simple as that and definitely a great feature for us. Has 
anyone checked how this affects interoperability with Excel? I have no idea 
how Excel handles date formats in localized versions but I could try to find 
someone with Finnish version of Excel to do some testing.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Saturday 19 November 2011, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:
 2011/11/19 Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com
  In a recent build you can check use of month noun versus possessive
  month in the number formatter if you compiled your new locale data with
  a make in i18npool (note: execute make twice to be sure the new data is
  available, it seems that due to some shortcoming in the current makefile
  setup some dependencies are missing). If the format code contains month
  (MMM or ) and day of month (D or DD) the possessive name is
  displayed, else (no D or DD code) the noun is displayed.
  
  Where exactly is this going to be used -- Calc's date-formatted cells,
 
 Writer's date-fields, ...?
 And will it be strictly one way or the other, or will users be able to
 choose which form (nominative/inflected) they want in a given context?
 I ask because in Estonian both forms (and more :P ) could be used,
 depending on sentence.

Similar problem with Finnish. We need to use genitive or partitive depending 
on whether the month name comes before or after the day of month. So you can 
write the date for today either as

  marraskuun 19. 2011 (genitive) or
  19. marraskuuta 2011 (partitive)

Currently this is not much of a problem for us since using spelled (as opposed 
to numeric) months is quite uncommon. We can also work around the problem by 
using custom date formats: n for genitive and ta for partitive 
month name. This happens to be possible because all month names are inflected 
from nominative to genitive or partitive with exactly same suffix.

This workaround would no longer work if all date formats containing day of 
month would automatically substitute  with genitive form. Thus we probably 
should not add GenitiveMonths for Finnish at this point. But the feature is 
nice anyway and with a small extension (support for partitive forms) could 
make our date formats much easier to work with.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Mailing list translation

2011-10-15 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Thursday 13 October 2011, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 So Florian made a call for mailing lists translation, and I'll try to
 coordinate the work:

I'll start working on the Finnish translation, it seems nobody has started on 
that yet. I try to finish it in a week or so.

Harri

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[libreoffice-l10n] Status of translated Wikihelp

2011-03-08 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

What is the status of translations currently missing from Wikihelp? Finnish is 
not there yet although our help translation has 100% coverage. By looking at 
RecentChanges it seems that some translations have been added a week ago. Is 
there something I need to do to get Finnish included or is it already planned 
to have the missing languages added at some later point in time, such as for 
3.4?

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Wikihelp: Uploaded translations

2011-01-22 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Friday 21 January 2011, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
 Yesterday I have uploaded the wikihelp translations to
 http://help.libreoffice.org ,  so far for the following languages:
 
 en, ca, cs, de, es, fr, hu, it, ja, pt, pt-BR, ru, sl, vi
 
 Please let me know if your language's help is translated, and you want
 to see it in wikihelp :-)

Finnish (fi) help is 100% translated, it would be nice to have it there too.

Harri

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[libreoffice-l10n] Updated Finnish (fi) translation

2011-01-15 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

I have updated lo-build-fi.po to contain translations for the newly added
strings in 3.3 branch. Please commit the updated translation from

  http://www.puimula.org/htp/libreoffice/fi-l10n/3.3/lo-build-fi.po

I believe this to be a safe update for libreoffice-3-3-0. But since none
of the new strings are very important it is OK for me if this gets committed
only to libreoffice-3-3 branch.

Thanks,
Harri


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[libreoffice-l10n] Finnish (fi) translation update

2011-01-04 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

I have updated lo-build-fi.po to contain translations for the newly added 
strings in 3.3 branch. Please commit the updated translation from

  http://www.puimula.org/htp/libreoffice/fi-l10n/3.3/lo-build-fi.po

This time I also uploaded the same file to Pootle. So it should be possible to 
pull the Finnish translation from there if it is less work for you to handle 
it that way.

Thanks,
Harri

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[libreoffice-l10n] Updated Finnish (fi) translation

2010-11-14 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

Please merge updated Finnish translation from

  http://www.puimula.org/htp/libreoffice/fi-l10n/3.3/lo-build-fi.po

Thanks,
Harri


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