Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1. What is the string as is? 2. What is the suggested alternative? I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything. The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have been written by someone that really knows what they are talking about. I tried looking for something more generic and found this hopelessly detailed page in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_science also this unclear (and also long-winded) definition http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/actuarial-valuation.asp and this one http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/actuarial-value/ Would it be safer to just rewrite the equation it uses but rewrite in English? (probably not but sometimes it helps) Regards from Tom :) From: Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com To: Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com Cc: LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 1:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description Actuarial value is mostly used in finance and insurance. Actuarial value is a measure of the percentage of expected health care costs a specific health plan will cover for the standard population. Actuarial value is generally calculated using the ratio of: *the total expected payments by the plan for essential health benefits* *__ * *the total expected costs of the standard population for essential health benefits * It´s the discipline that uses statistics and math in the way to determine risk and income (cash flow) and try to establish the present value of future cash flows. In a way it´s similar to TIR. http://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/252609/What-is-Actuarial-Value-AV Regards 2013/7/20 Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**libo_ui/sc/source/ui/** translate.html#unit=29744374https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=29744374 Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits. Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows. http://docs.oasis-open.org/**office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-** v1.2-os-part2.html#IRRhttp://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out what actuarial means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and probabilities. That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's t complicated description. Why can't it be just like it's in Oasis and MS Office? I also think that string should be as ODFF states. My translation states that way. I must say that many of descriptions were changed in my translations. Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1. What is the string as is? Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits 2. What is the suggested alternative? Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows Stated by ODFF. I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything. The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have been written by someone that really knows what they are talking about. I tried looking for something more generic and found this hopelessly detailed page in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_science also this unclear (and also long-winded) definition http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/actuarial-valuation.asp and this one http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/actuarial-value/ Would it be safer to just rewrite the equation it uses but rewrite in English? (probably not but sometimes it helps) Regards from Tom :) -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
Hi :) Thanks :) I think Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows is a minor improvement on the 2nd one. Neither make any sense to me but some background reading about the topic made it clear i would never understand enough to get a short simple sentence. The 2nd one suggests that the function can handle a number of inputs and then generate a single output value. The first suggests that you have got to put in several different parameters in order to get a single output value. Regards from Tom :) From: Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 12:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description 2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1. What is the string as is? Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits 2. What is the suggested alternative? Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows Stated by ODFF. I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything. The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have been written by someone that really knows what they are talking about. I tried looking for something more generic and found this hopelessly detailed page in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_science also this unclear (and also long-winded) definition http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/actuarial-valuation.asp and this one http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/actuarial-value/ Would it be safer to just rewrite the equation it uses but rewrite in English? (probably not but sometimes it helps) Regards from Tom :) -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
Hi Tom Best to see for yourself what IRR is. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/irr.asp 2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Thanks :) I think Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows is a minor improvement on the 2nd one. Neither make any sense to me but some background reading about the topic made it clear i would never understand enough to get a short simple sentence. The 2nd one suggests that the function can handle a number of inputs and then generate a single output value. The first suggests that you have got to put in several different parameters in order to get a single output value. Regards from Tom :) -- *From:* Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Sunday, 21 July 2013, 12:58 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description 2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1. What is the string as is? Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits 2. What is the suggested alternative? Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows Stated by ODFF. I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything. The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have been written by someone that really knows what they are talking about. I tried looking for something more generic and found this hopelessly detailed page in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuarial_science also this unclear (and also long-winded) definition http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/actuarial-valuation.asp and this one http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/actuarial-value/ Would it be safer to just rewrite the equation it uses but rewrite in English? (probably not but sometimes it helps) Regards from Tom :) -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=29744374 Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits. Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows. http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht actuarial means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and probabilities. That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's t complicated description. Why can't it be just like it's in Oasis and MS Office? Best regards, Mihovil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
You're so right :-) But to simplify even further, how about having it read, To compute the internal rate of return - profit. From: Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:09 AM Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description To: LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**libo_ui/sc/source/ui/** translate.html#unit=29744374https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=29744374 Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits. Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows. http://docs.oasis-open.org/**office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-** v1.2-os-part2.html#IRRhttp://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht actuarial means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and probabilities. That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's t complicated description. Why can't it be just like it's in Oasis and MS Office? Best regards, Mihovil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
Acturial value is mostly used in finance and insurance. Actuarial value is a measure of the percentage of expected health care costs a specific health plan will cover for the standard population. Actuarial value is generally calculated using the ratio of: *the total expected payments by the plan for essential health benefits* *__ * *the total expected costs of the standard population for essential health benefits * It´s the discipline that uses statistis and math in the way to determine risk and income (cash flow) and try to estabilish te present value of future cash flows. In a way it´s similar to TIR. http://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/252609/What-is-Actuarial-Value-AV Regards 2013/7/20 Mihovil Stanic mihovil.sta...@gmail.com https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**libo_ui/sc/source/ui/** translate.html#unit=29744374https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=29744374 Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits. Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows. http://docs.oasis-open.org/**office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-** v1.2-os-part2.html#IRRhttp://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht actuarial means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and probabilities. That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's t complicated description. Why can't it be just like it's in Oasis and MS Office? I also think that string should be as ODFF states. My translation states that way. I must say that many of descriptions were changed in my translations. Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
