Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Re: Questions and annotations to guide 2

2013-10-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, good point.  The result from DuckDuckGo (which i also often use even when 
i say i "google it", (just to make sure the MS one doesn't become the generic 
term and then get copyrighted)) does make sense and explains my policy of 
either avoiding it or trying to dodge around it.

The link didn't work until i delete the full stop.  I generally ignore normal 
rules of grammar and such-like when handing out url or email addresses.    2 
lines were a bit dodgy
"He shall take over his father’s car repair shop in the future."
It just looks likely to cause problems and is "tempting fate".  If i wrote 
something like that the poor kid would probably get knocked down by a 
double-decker bus within a week and i'd be blaming myself for years.  Also it 
looks wrong nowadays.  I think now it would be more normal to see "will" or 
"hopes to" but never "shall" and i don't really know why not.  Sometimes you 
just have to try it and leave it to other people to correct if there really is 
any weird unknowable problem with it.  The aim is "release early and release 
often" and NOT perfection 100% of the time.  Perfection seems to evolve later.  

Anyway, i think you have solved the problem 
Regards from 
Tom :)  








On Sunday, 13 October 2013, 17:38, Thomas Hackert  wrote:
 
Hello Tom, *,
On Sonntag, 13. Oktober 2013 18:09 Tom Davies wrote:
> Different people use different expressions but mostly people use
> quite a selection.  "Must be" is typically used  by people in
> power (such as parents, my boss, the prime-minister etc) but who
> might lack the imagination to realise there might well be some
> other way that they haven't thought of.  "What is usually used?"
> is a bit like asking what the best distro is.  Each person has

hm, O.K. I was expecting something like "I have learned at school, 
that..." or something like that ... ;) My own search with DuckDuckGo 
indicates, that "must not" is used in regulations, edicts (and the 
like), or in prohibitions, bans (and the like) (see e.g. 
http://english.lingolia.com/en/grammar/verbs/modal-verbs. If my 
English is not that rusted, it seems to underpin my opinion ... ;) 
But that is only one of six or seven sites, which I have skimmed 
through (in German as well as in English ... ;) ).

> their own idea and those ideas might change from moment to moment.
>  It's hard to avoid being flippant when answering this sort of
> thing.

O.K.

> Also once i am "on a roll" and writing quickly i sometimes find i
> have repeated a word or phrase many times, sometimes even with a
> single sentence.  It's a bit like tripping over my own shoelaces
> in haste or finding i tied them together.  So it's not always
> arrogance that leads to that sort of thing.

O.K.

> 3.  I quite like "with the same text".  It still avoids the
> problem Sophie made me aware of.  So; 
> There should not more than one entry with the same text in the
> help directory because it will break the index display in the help
> UI.  or the re-write i did later, or some variant of it.

O.K.

> Wrt tags/options and stuff.  I am disappointed to hear they are
> not translated and set by regionalisation.  For some reason i had
> assumed that people could use the command-line in their own
> language.

Well, I think, it is the same problem as with our project: You need 
the people, who are willing to translate it. If there are none, the 
commands as well as their help, manpages, info sides are left in 
English (which I prefer instead of having in a language, I am 
neither able to read or write) ... ;)
Thank you for your information
Thomas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting>

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break about even for all of us. I have observed, for example, that 
we all get about the same amount of ice. The rich get it in the 
summer and the poor get it in the winter.
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Re: Questions and annotations to guide 2

2013-10-13 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Tom, *,
On Sonntag, 13. Oktober 2013 18:09 Tom Davies wrote:
> Different people use different expressions but mostly people use
> quite a selection.  "Must be" is typically used  by people in
> power (such as parents, my boss, the prime-minister etc) but who
> might lack the imagination to realise there might well be some
> other way that they haven't thought of.  "What is usually used?"
> is a bit like asking what the best distro is.  Each person has

hm, O.K. I was expecting something like "I have learned at school, 
that..." or something like that ... ;) My own search with DuckDuckGo 
indicates, that "must not" is used in regulations, edicts (and the 
like), or in prohibitions, bans (and the like) (see e.g. 
http://english.lingolia.com/en/grammar/verbs/modal-verbs. If my 
English is not that rusted, it seems to underpin my opinion ... ;) 
But that is only one of six or seven sites, which I have skimmed 
through (in German as well as in English ... ;) ).

> their own idea and those ideas might change from moment to moment.
>  It's hard to avoid being flippant when answering this sort of
> thing.

O.K.

> Also once i am "on a roll" and writing quickly i sometimes find i
> have repeated a word or phrase many times, sometimes even with a
> single sentence.  It's a bit like tripping over my own shoelaces
> in haste or finding i tied them together.  So it's not always
> arrogance that leads to that sort of thing.

O.K.

> 3.  I quite like "with the same text".  It still avoids the
> problem Sophie made me aware of.  So; 
> There should not more than one entry with the same text in the
> help directory because it will break the index display in the help
> UI.  or the re-write i did later, or some variant of it.

O.K.

> Wrt tags/options and stuff.  I am disappointed to hear they are
> not translated and set by regionalisation.  For some reason i had
> assumed that people could use the command-line in their own
> language.

Well, I think, it is the same problem as with our project: You need 
the people, who are willing to translate it. If there are none, the 
commands as well as their help, manpages, info sides are left in 
English (which I prefer instead of having in a language, I am 
neither able to read or write) ... ;)
Thank you for your information
Thomas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting>

-- 
There are many of us in this old world of ours who hold that things 
break about even for all of us. I have observed, for example, that 
we all get about the same amount of ice. The rich get it in the 
summer and the poor get it in the winter.
-- Bat Masterson


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