[libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Greetings, I would like to ask how one would get started in building the language for Sesotho? To an extend even building language support for the language. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hello 2021년 5월 19일 (수) 오전 8:04, Hlompho Mota 님이 작성: > > Greetings, > I would like to ask how one would get started in building the language for > Sesotho? > To an extend even building language support for the language. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide#Register_with_LibreOffice will help you. The link says If the language is not listed in Weblate at all, it's a pretty good indication that you will have to start from scratch. In this case, prepare for a lot of translation work (or better, find yourself a few comrades) and contact the localization mailing list telling your intentions and listing all the necessary information (see below). Have good luck. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, -- Original -- From: "Hlompho Mota" ; Send time: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:58 AM > > Greetings, > I would like to ask how one would get started in building the language for > Sesotho? > To an extend even building language support for the language. Someone who knows more probably will give you a more detailed answer, but for now you can look at the southern Sotho / Sesotho translation on Weblate [1] and find the area for improvement. For now you can only make suggestions, and since there is no contact person listed on the LibreOffice language teams page [2], you'll want to contact the previous translator to see how you can cooperate. If he/she is no longer working on the translation, you can write to this list again and ask to become the main translator for Sesotho and get access to directly change the translation string on Weblate instead of just making suggestions. 1. https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/st/ 2. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams Hope this helps, Ming -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
The thing is I did. South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. Lesotho has its own way of presenting the language. Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho thing... Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 02:10, Ming H. <2097632...@qq.com> wrote: > Hi, > > -- Original -- > From: "Hlompho Mota" ; > Send time: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:58 AM > > > > Greetings, > > I would like to ask how one would get started in building the language > for > > Sesotho? > > To an extend even building language support for the language. > > Someone who knows more probably will give you a more detailed answer, but > for now you can look at the southern Sotho / Sesotho translation on > Weblate [1] > and find the area for improvement. For now you can only make suggestions, > and since there is no contact person listed on the LibreOffice language > teams > page [2], you'll want to contact the previous translator to see how you can > cooperate. If he/she is no longer working on the translation, you can > write to > this list again and ask to become the main translator for Sesotho and get > access > to directly change the translation string on Weblate instead of just making > suggestions. > > 1. https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/st/ > 2. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams > > Hope this helps, > Ming -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi and welcome! Le 19/05/2021 à 04:03, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > The thing is I did. > South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. Lesotho > has its own way of presenting the language. > Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be > ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho > thing... So what would be the language code to use given that we already have Southern Sotho (st) in Weblate and researching for it, ISO gives: https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes_name.php?iso_639_1=st Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier so...@libreoffice.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Foundation coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi Hlompho, If you'd like to get more people involved with the translation effort, just let me know. I do marketing and community outreach here at The Document Foundation, and can spread the word on our blog and social media, encouraging others with knowledge of the language to join in, eg like this: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/06/22/community-member-monday-jwtiyar-ali/ Just drop me a line if so! Cheers, Mike On 19.05.21 04:03, Hlompho Mota wrote: > The thing is I did. > South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. Lesotho > has its own way of presenting the language. > Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be > ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho > thing... > > Hlompho Mota | Managing Director > www.lesothobarcodes.com > +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 > > ᐧ > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 02:10, Ming H. <2097632...@qq.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> -- Original -- >> From: "Hlompho Mota" ; >> Send time: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:58 AM >>> >>> Greetings, >>> I would like to ask how one would get started in building the language >> for >>> Sesotho? >>> To an extend even building language support for the language. >> >> Someone who knows more probably will give you a more detailed answer, but >> for now you can look at the southern Sotho / Sesotho translation on >> Weblate [1] >> and find the area for improvement. For now you can only make suggestions, >> and since there is no contact person listed on the LibreOffice language >> teams >> page [2], you'll want to contact the previous translator to see how you can >> cooperate. If he/she is no longer working on the translation, you can >> write to >> this list again and ask to become the main translator for Sesotho and get >> access >> to directly change the translation string on Weblate instead of just making >> suggestions. >> >> 1. https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/st/ >> 2. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams >> >> Hope this helps, >> Ming > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, On Wednesday, 2021-05-19 10:14:37 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Le 19/05/2021 à 04:03, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > > South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. Lesotho > > has its own way of presenting the language. > > Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be > > ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho > > thing... > > So what would be the language code to use given that we already have > Southern Sotho (st) in Weblate and researching for it, ISO gives: > https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes_name.php?iso_639_1=st We already have "Northern Sotho" in the language list, ISO 639-2 'nso'. In Weblate https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/nso/ Its actual standard name seems to be Pedi https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/nso but everywhere else named Northern Sotho (except in Weblate ;-) In the language list we may want to rename Northern Sotho -> Sotho, Northern Southern Sotho -> Sotho, Southern so they are grouped together when alphabetically sorted. Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
I realised that issue, So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? Because the Sotho (as they may call it) does have some serious issues in how the language has been put together from our perspective. Then there is the other issue of how we write our words. Since written language from our end has more of an influence from how French vocabulary was written, there are some significant differences in how words are put together. So in light of this point, I think to prevent creating issues on the efforts of the South Sotho, I think it would be ideal to create a new branch altogether. Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 10:15, sophi wrote: > Hi and welcome! > > Le 19/05/2021 à 04:03, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > > The thing is I did. > > South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. > Lesotho > > has its own way of presenting the language. > > Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be > > ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho > > thing... > > So what would be the language code to use given that we already have > Southern Sotho (st) in Weblate and researching for it, ISO gives: > https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes_name.php?iso_639_1=st > > Cheers > Sophie > -- > Sophie Gautier so...@libreoffice.org > GSM: +33683901545 > IRC: sophi > Foundation coordinator > The Document Foundation > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
I saw that, From our end, we refer to the language as Sesotho. Based on this point there are some other significant differences even how we speak and use the language. Given that Lesotho is an independent state, our language doesn't tend to have some of the influences from other languages in South Africa. However given that our language in its current form is the official language, there is some issue that may need be addressed and that there are some significant differences in how they are written. Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 12:18, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, 2021-05-19 10:14:37 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: > > > Le 19/05/2021 à 04:03, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > > > South Sotho as its called has a dialect more aimed at South Africa. > Lesotho > > > has its own way of presenting the language. > > > Given that challenge, rather than offending people, I think it would be > > > ideal to have Sesotho. We don't do the whole Northern and Southen Sotho > > > thing... > > > > So what would be the language code to use given that we already have > > Southern Sotho (st) in Weblate and researching for it, ISO gives: > > > https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/langcodes_name.php?iso_639_1=st > > We already have "Northern Sotho" in the language list, ISO 639-2 'nso'. > > In Weblate https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/nso/ > > Its actual standard name seems to be Pedi > https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/nso > but everywhere else named Northern Sotho (except in Weblate ;-) > > In the language list we may want to rename > > Northern Sotho -> Sotho, Northern > Southern Sotho -> Sotho, Southern > > so they are grouped together when alphabetically sorted. > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 > 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, Le 20/05/2021 à 01:04, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > I realised that issue, > So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls > being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? ls is the ISO code of the country see: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:LS, we use ISO language codes (639-1 or 639-2) > Because the Sotho (as they may call it) does have some serious issues in > how the language has been put together from our perspective. > Then there is the other issue of how we write our words. Since written > language from our end has more of an influence from how French vocabulary > was written, there are some significant differences in how words are put > together. > So in light of this point, I think to prevent creating issues on the > efforts of the South Sotho, I think it would be ideal to create a new > branch altogether. I understand your point of view, but there is nothing we can do on our side, technically we need an existing ISO language code. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier so...@libreoffice.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Foundation coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hello, sophi kirjoitti 20.5.2021 12:28: I understand your point of view, but there is nothing we can do on our side, technically we need an existing ISO language code. Looking at the list of languages at hosted.weblate.org, there seem to be at least several which probably don't have (official) ISO codes: https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/ So I don't think having an official ISO language code is a strict requirement on Weblate's part, at least. Best regards, Tuomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Le 20 mai 2021 18:52:03 GMT+02:00, Tuomas Hietala a écrit : >Hello, > >sophi kirjoitti 20.5.2021 12:28: >> I understand your point of view, but there is nothing we can do on >our >> side, technically we need an existing ISO language code. > >Looking at the list of languages at hosted.weblate.org, there seem to >be >at least several which probably don't have (official) ISO codes: >https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/ > >So I don't think having an official ISO language code is a strict >requirement on Weblate's part, at least. Could you be more specific and name which ones? Cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Sophie kirjoitti 20.5.2021 21:32: Le 20 mai 2021 18:52:03 GMT+02:00, Tuomas Hietala a écrit : Hello, sophi kirjoitti 20.5.2021 12:28: I understand your point of view, but there is nothing we can do on our side, technically we need an existing ISO language code. Looking at the list of languages at hosted.weblate.org, there seem to be at least several which probably don't have (official) ISO codes: https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/ So I don't think having an official ISO language code is a strict requirement on Weblate's part, at least. Could you be more specific and name which ones? Cheers Sophie I don't think "English (Developer)" is any officially ISO-recognised language, for example: https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/en_devel/#information There's also stuff like this: https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/_DE/#information Abd this: https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/untranslated/#information It would seem to me that Weblate is happy to accept just about any made-up code, it doesn't have to be one of the officially recognised codes. Cheers, Tuomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi Sophie, hi all, -- Original -- From: ; Send time: Thursday, May 20, 2021 5:28 PM > > I understand your point of view, but there is nothing we can do on our > side, technically we need an existing ISO language code. I admit that I'm rather ignorant on how LibreOffice and Weblate handle these different languages, but why can't we just give them a combined language-and-country ISO code "st-LS" like we already do for English, Chinese and Portuguese (en-US, en-UK, zh-CN, zh-TW, pt-BR, etc.)? Ming -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, On Thursday, 2021-05-20 01:04:11 +0200, Hlompho Mota wrote: > So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls > being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? If you are proposing 'st-LS' additionally to 'st' (which defaults to 'st-ZA') then yes, that would be possible. For the LibreOffice language list I'd then suggest Sotho (Lesotho) Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, On Thursday, 2021-05-20 19:52:03 +0300, Tuomas Hietala wrote: > So I don't think having an official ISO language code is a strict > requirement on Weblate's part, at least. For LibreOffice however it is a strict requirement to have a valid BCP 47 *language tag*. Which usually is the ISO 639-1/2/3 language code plus maybe a ISO 3166 country code, but can also be any tag of IANA registered subtags. If you're interested in the glory details see my link collection at https://erack.de/bookmarks/D.html#Language_Tags Making up an arbitrary string like 'en_devel' will not work. A similar valid language tag however could be 'en-x-devel' indicating a private-use tag, which is not interoperable though and thus should never be used for document content or anything else leaving the "private-use agreement sector". Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, On Friday, 2021-05-21 13:44:37 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > > So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls > > being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? > > If you are proposing 'st-LS' additionally to 'st' (which defaults to > 'st-ZA') then yes, that would be possible. > > For the LibreOffice language list I'd then suggest > Sotho (Lesotho) So, should it be st-LS and "Sotho (Lesotho)"? They would have to be added to the known locales and language list, if so. Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Here is the funny thing, We just referee to our language as Sesotho. But with the need to accommodate the international codes allocated I thought it would be more ls-ST. But rather than using Sotho, Could we refer to it as Sesotho? Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ ᐧ On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 22:09, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday, 2021-05-21 13:44:37 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > > > > So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls > > > being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? > > > > If you are proposing 'st-LS' additionally to 'st' (which defaults to > > 'st-ZA') then yes, that would be possible. > > > > For the LibreOffice language list I'd then suggest > > Sotho (Lesotho) > > So, should it be st-LS and "Sotho (Lesotho)"? > > They would have to be added to the known locales and language list, if so. > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 > 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Greetings, Based on this part of the protocol: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646#section-2.2.4 I think the idea that Lesotho could have its own defined language tag. (Well from my limited understanding) Besides that, there are some significant differences in our language. So on this note, I hope that it could count as a case for this petition. Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 14:10, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Thursday, 2021-05-20 19:52:03 +0300, Tuomas Hietala wrote: > > > So I don't think having an official ISO language code is a strict > > requirement on Weblate's part, at least. > > For LibreOffice however it is a strict requirement to have a valid BCP 47 > *language tag*. Which usually is the ISO 639-1/2/3 language code plus > maybe a ISO 3166 country code, but can also be any tag of IANA > registered subtags. If you're interested in the glory details see my > link collection at https://erack.de/bookmarks/D.html#Language_Tags > > Making up an arbitrary string like 'en_devel' will not work. A similar > valid language tag however could be 'en-x-devel' indicating > a private-use tag, which is not interoperable though and thus should > never be used for document content or anything else leaving the > "private-use agreement sector". > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 > 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Greetings, To make issues simpler to just name it as Sesotho that than Sotho. So in creating the international code, we could simply just give it the proper definition. Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 22:09, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday, 2021-05-21 13:44:37 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > > > > So in light of that, I would like to know if it's ever possible that ls > > > being Lesotho ISO code be added to the Lesotho aspect of the branch? > > > > If you are proposing 'st-LS' additionally to 'st' (which defaults to > > 'st-ZA') then yes, that would be possible. > > > > For the LibreOffice language list I'd then suggest > > Sotho (Lesotho) > > So, should it be st-LS and "Sotho (Lesotho)"? > > They would have to be added to the known locales and language list, if so. > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 > 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi Hlompho, On Monday, 2021-05-31 23:37:10 +0200, Hlompho Mota wrote: > Based on this part of the protocol: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646#section-2.2.4 > I think the idea that Lesotho could have its own defined language tag. > (Well from my limited understanding) The Region Subtag is exactly the ISO 3166-1 country code mentioned with st-LS (here LS for Lesotho) in the other subthread. Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi Hlompho, On Monday, 2021-05-31 23:23:36 +0200, Hlompho Mota wrote: > Here is the funny thing, > We just referee to our language as Sesotho. But with the need to > accommodate the international codes allocated I thought it would be more > ls-ST. I presume you got that twisted and meant st-LS instead.. there's no 'ls' language code and you don't want it for 'Sao Tome and Principe' ;-) > But rather than using Sotho, Could we refer to it as Sesotho? Sure, the naming in the language listbox is just up to us, as long as it makes sense.. Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, On Tuesday, 2021-06-01 18:46:40 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > > But rather than using Sotho, Could we refer to it as Sesotho? > > Sure, the naming in the language listbox is just up to us, as long as it > makes sense.. Done with Add Sesotho {st-LS} 0x8030 to language list https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/75458bfab180a57597e674d38e2953c440cf118d%5E%21/ Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Thank you, You are far too kind. In relation to the Weblate project, who do I ask about adding Sesotho? Hlompho Mota | Managing Director www.lesothobarcodes.com +266 50698342 | +266 62016682 ᐧ On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 21:29, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, 2021-06-01 18:46:40 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > > > > But rather than using Sotho, Could we refer to it as Sesotho? > > > > Sure, the naming in the language listbox is just up to us, as long as it > > makes sense.. > > Done with > > Add Sesotho {st-LS} 0x8030 to language list > > https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/75458bfab180a57597e674d38e2953c440cf118d%5E%21/ > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 > 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Setting Up Sesotho For LibreOffice Languages
Hi, Le 02/06/2021 à 10:06, Hlompho Mota a écrit : > Thank you, > You are far too kind. > > In relation to the Weblate project, who do I ask about adding Sesotho? I'll create it. Will you translate UI and help files or only UI for the moment? Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier so...@libreoffice.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: soph Foundation coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy