Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
I think this problem is escalating. My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen. Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this situation. I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be prioritized. Cheers, Leif 2015-01-02 9:46 GMT+01:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com: Hi, Le 01/01/2015 21:36, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2015-01-01 at 21:30: I added 'details' But can't reopen. Now displayinghttps://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/ does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes. same here. :-( Pootle is out of TDF infra, hosted on a separate machine, and Cloph (who might know what to do) is on vacation. If it doesn't automagically heal itself by tomorrow, can you maybe poke Andras and Sophie? IMHO at least Andras also knows some details about the Pootle setup, and Sophie might know who else could help out... I've added Rimas in copy of this mail, Pootle seems to be down currently. Rimas is it possible for you to help here? Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Leif Lodahl wrote on 06-01-15 10:43: I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be prioritized. It has been 'managed' already. Now only needs to be fixed.. -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi, I've missed the topic for second time. Sorry for that. I want to ask that if something said about the new accelerator sign '_' when placed inside the word, seperates the word and prevents having a search match. Best regards, Zeki -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi Leif, all, Le 06/01/2015 10:43, Leif Lodahl a écrit : I think this problem is escalating. My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen. Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this situation. Maybe a temporary solution for them is to use Virtaal, until we try to see where we can enhance things here. I'm not sure of what can be exactly done, but this is something I would like to discuss during Fosdem (in the light of Cloph answer here http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-l10n-Pootle-server-speed-tt4128467.html) I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be prioritized. I would like first to give a try to the new workflow and see how things improve here. I've also contacted Dwayne (Pootle developer) multiple times but his availability is very low, I'll write him again today. LibreOffice is a very large project and we have few comparison elements with other projects. However, if we need to test other software in replacement, we will do it. I still have Weblate to test (https://weblate.org/en/features/) in mind, but well before replacing a full installation, I think trying to enhance it is better, again due to the large project we have. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi, Leif Lodahl wrote on 2015-01-06 at 10:43: I think this problem is escalating. My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen. Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this situation. I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be prioritized. sorry to hear about those issues. :-( The whole Pootle issue is a long story, and things so far did not work out as expected, despite various approaches by Sophie and me. From what I remember, this is nothing fixable from the infra side, but only in the program's code, which we tried to get, but... Sophie, Cloph, can we maybe have a call on this on Thursday or Friday so you can update me what the story is and we can evaluate our options here? Thanks, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi Flo, all, Le 06/01/2015 12:07, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Leif Lodahl wrote on 2015-01-06 at 10:43: I think this problem is escalating. My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen. Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this situation. I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be prioritized. sorry to hear about those issues. :-( The whole Pootle issue is a long story, and things so far did not work out as expected, despite various approaches by Sophie and me. From what I remember, this is nothing fixable from the infra side, but only in the program's code, which we tried to get, but... Sophie, Cloph, can we maybe have a call on this on Thursday or Friday so you can update me what the story is and we can evaluate our options here? Both days are ok for me. I've sent a mail to Dwayne with you in copy so you'll know where we are here. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi, Sophie wrote on 2015-01-06 at 15:56: Both days are ok for me. I've sent a mail to Dwayne with you in copy so you'll know where we are here. thanks a lot! I will follow-up with you and Cloph offlist first, and then get back to this list. Sorry again for the inconveniences, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote on 06-01-15 18:21: His attitude sucks, this is not the only list in which he is being harsh lately (also received some of his niceness in ubuntu-translators). Michael, you should take a break, dude. It may well be that his style is different and some harsh to others, while he does not intend or experience it that way? Of course, it might help if he can adjust a bit to avoid misunderstanding and other feelings, but I often try to take into account that we all have a different background before taking offense ;) -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
2015-01-06 10:16 GMT-06:00 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com: May I suggest a more positive approach to people who comes with positive suggestions? Your attitude doesn't exactly attract new contributor. His attitude sucks, this is not the only list in which he is being harsh lately (also received some of his niceness in ubuntu-translators). Michael, you should take a break, dude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
2015-01-06 11:31 GMT-06:00 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl: It may well be that his style is different and some harsh to others, while he does not intend or experience it that way? You are right, it is most likely that we have different cultural backgrounds and education. But I still believe we can all try to behave a bit more professionally. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Yeah... have you ever tried exporting a po file from Crowdin? Totally bonkers. Michael Sgrìobh Jan Møgelbjerg na leanas 06/01/2015 aig 15:34: Besides Danish LibreOffice translation I am also working at a translation of the 'OpenProject' software. The platform used for this is the Crowdin Localization Management Platform whith which I have only positive and recommendable experience (also from a couple of older projects). Crowdin has a standing offer to give free acces for OpenSource software - read more athttps://crowdin.com/pricing Just a suggestion - It really would be nice to work with LO at a platform without all these errors and interruptions. med venlig hilsen Jan M -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon Fòn: +44-141-946 4437 Facs: +44-141-945 2701 *Tha Gàidhlig aig a' choimpiutair agad, siuthad, feuch e!* Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting, geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net http://www.iGaidhlig.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2015-01-01 at 21:30: I added 'details' But can't reopen. Now displayinghttps://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/ does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes. same here. :-( Pootle is out of TDF infra, hosted on a separate machine, and Cloph (who might know what to do) is on vacation. If it doesn't automagically heal itself by tomorrow, can you maybe poke Andras and Sophie? IMHO at least Andras also knows some details about the Pootle setup, and Sophie might know who else could help out... Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote on 30-12-14 09:47: can you add details to Redmine ticket #707 and re-open it? I added 'details' But can't reopen. Now displaying https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/ does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes. Ciao, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws wrote on 2014-12-28 at 23:37: Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers memory.. Apols! Not that working in 4.4. is a pleasure :( can you add details to Redmine ticket #707 and re-open it? Maybe Sophie can then have a look and if it's really an issue, raise it with the Pootle folks. Thanks, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted