Re: [lace] - Channer mat

2003-09-05 Thread Ruth Budge
 --- LeAnn Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > 
> [One of the silliest questions my DH has ever asked me is "but do you
> really *need* all of those books?  Are you actually going to use them?"  
> 
> "Of course I am." I replied.  "I may only make one project out of each
> book but each one has something interesting in it, even if I'm only
> dreaming right now.  They have entertainment value above and beyond the
> practical use of the patterns."  He's never asked again. ]

I know I've said this before, but let me point out again, that Miss Channer's
mat (or any other lace pattern which uses lots and lots of bobbins) is the
*best* excuse a wife can have for buying new bobbins.   By the time I had a
hundred bobbins, my DH was commenting:  "but you must have enough bobbins by
now!"   And I felt guilty every time I sneaked another one into the house! 
But...with Miss Channer's mat prominently displayed on the "to do" pile, he's
quite happy to encourage me to buy bobbins till the cows come home - after all,
even an accountant knows you needs lots of bobbins to work it
Ruth Budge (laughing all the way to the bobbin shop!)


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[lace] The (bath)Mat, Rug (short)

2003-09-05 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone

Elaine wrote:

> have any idea how much the reprinting
> of Mrs. Channer's mat must have cost, or realize that printing it again,
> will be probably much more expensive than printing it originally.

This is quite true of offset printing. However, a digital version,
whether on paper or on disk is far cheaper and could be done simply.
This is conjecture, and I have no inclination to take up the matter with
Ruth Bean Publishing, but perhaps if the copyright could be loaned, i.e.
permission granted for a non-profit (lace) group to use it, then
reissuing the pricking for Miss C's mat could be someone's fundraiser.

I looked at my copy of a copy of the pricking recently, and I know why I
have it - when I realized I could 'read' Buckspoint patterns, this
particular pattern became accessible (i.e. do-able), and appealed to me
therefore. It is on my some-day-if-ever list of things to redraw ;)

-- 
bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
ps - the pricking could be published at a percentage of original size, too
(for Aurelia: sorry if the topic seems overworked - but I for one do like
the mat!)

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[lace] - Channer mat

2003-09-05 Thread LeAnn Smith
Would they be willing to keep a sign-up list to see how much interest
there really is?  Worldwide, if all the lace clubs spread the word that
the pattern might be available again there might be enough interest to
make this happen.  I'm assuming that our wonderful suppliers might order a
few.  

The mat is beyond my current capabilities, but (knock on wood) I have 50
years of lacemaking ahead of me.  Like Tamara, I've learned to buy
anything I *might* be interested in when I see it, because it probably
won't be around by the time my interest or skills require the book.  My
mantra, given to me by an avid cross stitcher years ago, is recited
faithfully and often: "I can collect; I can collect; I can collect."

Heck, if the price is reasonable, I'll buy two - one for "just in case". 
I can always raffle it, donate it, or give it to someone else later.

[One of the silliest questions my DH has ever asked me is "but do you
really *need* all of those books?  Are you actually going to use them?"  

"Of course I am." I replied.  "I may only make one project out of each
book but each one has something interesting in it, even if I'm only
dreaming right now.  They have entertainment value above and beyond the
practical use of the patterns."  He's never asked again. ]

There are prettier patterns, there are more difficult patterns - I'll buy
those too, when I see them.  Like it or not, this one has "collector
cachet", and it would be a shame if it gets locked away for decades
because Ruth has decided that it's not worth printing, without really
knowing whether there's a market or not.  1000 sounds like a lot, but over
what period of time? A year? Two years? Five years?  I know holding
inventory costs money, but they don't really expect to sell all 1000
copies immediately and then lock it away again, do they?

If we gently encourage, is there hope?

LeAnn in Oregon


>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 03:53:41 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3753--Channer mat
>
>Hi, I did speak to Ruth and they would need to print and sell 1000 copies.
>
> KEEP LACING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS

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[lace] David's Book?!?!?!

2003-09-05 Thread Patricia Dowden
... I can vouch for the quality of David's book.  It is fine; the pictures are clear
and well-defined and the print is perfect.

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia

Hi David,

I must have been in a daze. . . Now about your book, please describe what manner of 
delightful things it contains.  I am just dying to know.

Thanks,

Patty Dowden

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[lace] Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
I can vouch for the quality of David's book.  It is fine; the pictures are clear
and well-defined and the print is perfect.

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA who is happily waiting for FH Clive's cousins
from Surrey, UK to arrive next week for a 3 week holiday...

David Collyer wrote:

> For those very reasons, I put off publishing a book for years, and assumed
> I would never be able to afford it. However, with modern technology, when I
> did publish, just a couple of years back, the local printing firm simply
> received a copy of my book as a .doc file on a CD and I have copies printed
> as I requite them for sale. It doesn't matter whether I require a run of
> 100 or only ONE - it's all the same to the printer. And the quality is
> fantastic.
>

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Re: [lace] --Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Well, you would think so, from the amount of prayerful attention it got.
But what a tiger with words you must be, to have picked that up!  -- 
Aurelia

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Re: [lace] Heathside Crafts

2003-09-05 Thread Penny
Allen Rout is well and still trading.  He can be contacted on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and his website is on www.heatsidecrafts.co.uk

Penny from a wet and windy Cheltenham

Jenny wrote:



Last I heard was that Alan Rout is unwell, and it's probable that he won't
be trading again.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Miss Channer's mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Aurelia wrote:



I've not made any Bucks Point, but I just bought the Misses Sivewright &
Pope book (I like books), and the cape in it struck me as making Miss
Channer's mat look like a kindergarten piece. There's no photograph of the
finished lace and doesn't appear to be any indication of the number of
bobbins, or any guide to the making at all.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Heathside Crafts

2003-09-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Jenny wrote:



Last I heard was that Alan Rout is unwell, and it's probable that he won't
be trading again.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] --Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread palmhaven
Dear Aurelia,

Yes, I agree but Roses and Thistles Handkerchief takes *more* bobbins than
Miss Channer's mat.

Your references to *getting off of Channer's Mat* and facing Eastward
brought up the question of whether the *mat* was a prayer rug.

Tom Andrews



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From: "Aurelia L. Loveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Collyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: [lace] --Channer mat - reprinting


> Your info about reprinting is very interesting, and I don't doubt that as
a
> partial result of it, the number of Arachne-novelists is going to increase
> in the coming year! Good! Time we got past Montupet's "The Lacemaker."
>
> But it's also time we got past Miss Channer's mat! For the last 3 or 4
> weeks I've been trying to get people to notice --other! more beautiful!
> more challenging! less bobbin-laden!!-- pieces. F.i., Misses Sivewright &
> Pope (ed. Christine Springett); or the gorgeous "Roses and Thistles"
> handkerchief made by Christine Agambar, a gem, a jewel, and printed in
> Underwood's "Collection" (publ., incidentally, by Ruth Bean!). Gorgeous!
> Miss Channer's mat is indeed very nice, but it isn't gorgeous.
>
> And for those who want to face eastward toward the continent, there is
> Michael Giusiana's staggering new book of Binche handkerchiefs. Again,
Miss
> Channer's mat is pretty, but it isn't staggering.
>
> Arachnes, do hear me! Let's get off Miss Channer's mat!  --  Aurelia
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Re: [lace] --Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread Clay Blackwell
Yes!  Yes!  I agree...  let's DO talk about Michael
Giusiana's wonderful Binche books!!  I've been working a
handkerchief edging in "Binche - Around the Corner" since
June and am about to go around my third corner!!  I am
totally smitten with Binche, and find these laces to be, as
someone said about Bedfordshire laces, "the thinking woman's
lace".

I do think that appreciation of Binche is an acquired taste.
I can remember a couple of years ago looking at it and
thinking it was too "busy" to be pretty.  Now I see it
completely differently, and just love it.  Old Binche, new
Binche...  S pretty and such a fun lace to work.

Clay

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From: "Aurelia L. Loveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> But it's also time we got past Miss Channer's mat!

> And for those who want to face eastward toward the
continent, there is
> Michael Giusiana's staggering new book of Binche
handkerchiefs. Again, Miss
> Channer's mat is pretty, but it isn't staggering.
>
> Arachnes, do hear me! Let's get off Miss Channer's
at!  --  Aurelia

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[lace] --Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Your info about reprinting is very interesting, and I don't doubt that as a
partial result of it, the number of Arachne-novelists is going to increase
in the coming year! Good! Time we got past Montupet's "The Lacemaker."

But it's also time we got past Miss Channer's mat! For the last 3 or 4
weeks I've been trying to get people to notice --other! more beautiful!
more challenging! less bobbin-laden!!-- pieces. F.i., Misses Sivewright &
Pope (ed. Christine Springett); or the gorgeous "Roses and Thistles"
handkerchief made by Christine Agambar, a gem, a jewel, and printed in
Underwood's "Collection" (publ., incidentally, by Ruth Bean!). Gorgeous!
Miss Channer's mat is indeed very nice, but it isn't gorgeous.

And for those who want to face eastward toward the continent, there is
Michael Giusiana's staggering new book of Binche handkerchiefs. Again, Miss
Channer's mat is pretty, but it isn't staggering.

Arachnes, do hear me! Let's get off Miss Channer's mat!  --  Aurelia

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[lace] --Channer mat - reprinting

2003-09-05 Thread David Collyer
Dear Elaine,
I doubt if most of our Arachne members have any idea how much the reprinting
of Mrs. Channer's mat must have cost, or realize that printing it again, now
will be probably much more expensive than printing it originally.
I fully understand all you are saying in your email about the cost of 
printing. I know a woman here in Ballarat who had to re-mortgage he house 
to print a family history book. But that was some 10 years ago.

For those very reasons, I put off publishing a book for years, and assumed 
I would never be able to afford it. However, with modern technology, when I 
did publish, just a couple of years back, the local printing firm simply 
received a copy of my book as a .doc file on a CD and I have copies printed 
as I requite them for sale. It doesn't matter whether I require a run of 
100 or only ONE - it's all the same to the printer. And the quality is 
fantastic.

Surely there must be some similar solution for Ruth Bean with regards a 
rare copyright like Miss Channer's Mat. Just thoughts
David in Ballarat

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[lace] Kathy Kaufmann?

2003-09-05 Thread Panza, Robin
Does anybody have an email address for Kathy Kaufmann, the registrar for the
Finger Lakes Lace Guild Lace Day?

Robin



Robin K Panza
Section of Birds, Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh  PA  15213  USA
phone:  412-622-3255
fax:  412-622-8837
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[lace] looking for a supplier

2003-09-05 Thread Barron
can anyone in the UK tell me if Heathside Crafts is still trading? I've
tried the phone number and it's not working. When I last saw Allan Rout at
Aberdeen Lace Day last September he seemed to be winding down the business.
I'd be grateful for any info

jenny barron
Scotland

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RE: [lace] Sprang

2003-09-05 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At any rate, I have no idea where I came across the instructions for this
hammock, but it involved hanging everything from a support apparatus from
the ceiling of the studio and rolling the completed parts on the main
supporting bar as I worked down the length of the hammock.  But I
remember it fondly as such a soothing activity. Not too long ago, I realized
that what I had been doing was Sprang.  And there is now a book on ebay
about this ancient
lacelike craft.  <<<

Well, the bidding's over on that book.  It looks like the one that inspired
me (not quite enough to actually try) many years ago.  I found out about
Sprang when some chairs and hammocks were for sale, and went to the library
to learn more.  There's an even better, more recent (still in print, I
think) book on the subject, by Peter Collingwood (famous for his weaving).
It shows at least one piece that is clearly more lace than hammock, an
ancient garment made with thread.  

I also saw a neat sprang hat at the Metropolitan Museum of Art (the IOLI
field trip), thanks to Devon's 'treasure hunt'.  Again, lace rather than
hammock.  Clay, if you'd like to see the picture of it, I can email it
sometime (email's at work, picture's at home).

Robin P.
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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3770

2003-09-05 Thread Jo Martin
 Good morning,

I was stunned to read that piece of news which was certainly completely
"hidden" in the messages, as you said Jeri

I had heard about her being suddenly very ill when Renée van Walsum came to
my place a fortnight ago, but I would never have imagined it would have been
that fast and terrible
I had a few contacts with Ghislaine who was very kind and who certainly was
one of the very important persons in the field of lace and for OIDFA
The lacemaking world has lost a great lady

Josette Martin


> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:39:11 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [lace] Ghyslaine Maes
>
> In a message dated 9/4/03 10:09:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Jean in Cleveland U.K.
>  > By chance, looking at this pattern book, I noticed 2 patterns from
>  > Ghyslaine Maes the President of OIDFA who died so recently. The OIDFA
>  > bulletin No. 3 arrived today also. It reported how ill she had become,
>  > but not her death. The world of lacemaking has lost a talented and
>  > dedicated lady.
>   >>

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Re: [lace] Thinking woman

2003-09-05 Thread Jean Barrett
It might discourage any male potential lacemakers!
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Linda Greyling wrote:

Edith wrote:
One teacher I go to refers to Beds as the thinking woman's lace !
Edith Holmes
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What about "Lace the Thinking woman's Hobby" as a slogan.  Would this 
discourage or encourage new lacemakers?



Linda Greyling
Lecturer
Mathematics and Science
Technikon SA
South Africa
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