Re: [lace] Convention planning-interesting

2004-01-18 Thread Ruth Budge
Devon, I agree with what you've said here - and I certainly wasn't objecting to
producing a detailed description of the course.

I think it was the *amount* and *detail* of what was being asked for, and the
breadth of the questionnaire (although, come to think of it, they didn't ask
for the colour of my eyes!!) that deterred me.

If I'd been able to send the course outline which I'd already produced for the
Australian Guild on this subject, it would've been an easy matter.

And the *tone* of the questions about my credentials, experience,
qualifications etc., certainly made me feel as if I was undertaking a major
exam!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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> As workshop chairman of a local group for many years I had ample opportunity 
> to observe how a gifted and talented teacher could give a class that was a 
> total disaster by the simple expedient of refusing to provide a detailed
> class 
> description or timely materials list. 

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Re: [lace] Re: wardrobe of the Prince of Ligne

2004-01-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Did the Prince of Ligne double as the Princess of the same area?  
'cause "his" wardrobe doesn't seem to be very masculine overall...
I took the trouble to look the Prince de Ligne up on the Web. Very 
interesting when you look at the costumes, because you can see they 
mainly come from 3 different time periods and in fact the website I 
read listed 3 de Lignes who were major figures in their day.

The earliest one was Claude Lamoral de Ligne, who was the ambassador of 
the Spanish Netherlands during the late 1600s. His visit to London was 
noted in both John Evelyn's  and Samuel Pepys' diaries; especially 
noting the richness, number of horses, etc. Apparently he made quite an 
impression. The next one lived 1735-1814; probably the lad with the 
embroidered suits similar to what Bjarne makes. And the last one lived 
during the end of the last century.

As to the feminine clothing, I rather assumed it was one of those 
"inherit the castle, inherit everything in the attic" situations where 
the current title-holder owns everything including the former clothing 
of his female ancestors. Of course, we don't really know for sure that 
these items were all owned directly by the previous Princes de Ligne - 
it could be that one person just started a collection and bought items 
on the open market like any other collector.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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[lace] Re: Convention planning

2004-01-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 18, 2004, at 18:37, Clay Blackwell wrote:

It would be a matter of curiosity for me to know the
credentials of the conference committee members with regard
to their experience in IOLI conventions specifically
On the: "doctor, cure yourself (first)" principle? I don't see why the 
"top" of a small, no-count (in a larger scheme of things), organisation 
(which Keystone Lacers surely are) should be held accountable, when 
it's not a requirement for any other "top"...

Ruth, I'd fill all the idiot questions with a "n/a" (not applicable), 
and let it go at that; chances are that the responses are not 
read/evaluated by thinking humans, but left for the puters to "crunch". 
At the same time, I'm happy to have my "gut feeling" (do not do it!) 
reinforced; I have -- for years -- refused to teach formally (I have, 
actually, been asked to, which amuses me no end), and will continue to 
do so.

Clay, I don't know who you're talking about *specifically* in your:
particularly if they're Honorary Members of IOLI
but, quite a few "old workhorses" are featured again in this year's 
schedule.

And, new "trial baloons" have always been a feature of every 
Convention, *as is right*; getting "petrified" (as in stone-engraved) 
won't do.  Usually -- it seems to me -- the organising commitee tried 
to pull those "fresh blossoms" from its immediate area, to cut down on 
the transit costs. Sometimes such experiments worked, sometimes they 
didn't. There are evaluation sheets every participant can (and should) 
fill; as a result of those, teachers who "bombed" didn't get invited 
again; the teachers who were recived with enthusiasm, got invited to 
areas which weren't within their immediate driving area and -- in time 
-- became "old workhorses"... The problem this year - as I see it -- is 
that there are so many workshops offered (most of them short), that 
it's easy to *miss* a particular teacher one was looking forward to 
taking a class from; too much cake, not enough honest-to-goodness bread 
:)

And in my case, when I do find a class -- even one led by a teacher I 
crave -- and see that it's only 6 or 12 hrs, it's not worth my time to 
go to the gas station to refill the car's tank, never mind driving to 
Harrisburg and staying in a fancy hotel for a couple of nights in order 
to take it...

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[lace] Re: wardrobe of the Prince of Ligne

2004-01-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 16, 2004, at 7:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote:

In a message dated 1/16/2004 3:53:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.coutaubegarie.com/php/catalogue/diaporama_vente.php? 
id_vente=236
Thanks for posting this site.
I'll take lot 262, thank you.
Anything between 259 and 263 (inclusive) and also lot 227, I'd be happy  
to accept as a gift :) Actually, the lace items seem to me to be more  
reasonable than some of the stuff we'd seen on E-Bay...

Did the Prince of Ligne double as the Princess of the same area?   
'cause "his" wardrobe doesn't seem to be very masculine overall...

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[lace] Re: teaching classes

2004-01-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 17, 2004, at 17:56, sharon wrote:

Dear Lorelei and all you other kind spiders who have responded.  I'm
beginning to revise my opinion about using the snake as a starter 
project
since a couple of you pointed out some areas of potential difficulty.
Perhaps the boring bandage might be best after all?  I hadn't thought 
of
tape lace as a second choice. I do have Pam Nottingham's "Bobbin Lace
Making"  it's the book I used to teach myself  20 yrs ago and has been 
as
much my "bible" as the Cookbook :)  I have to admit though, I 
completely
skipped the tape lace lessons because they didn't look like "real" 
lace to
me.  What is the opinion of  other lacers?  Would tape lace grab you?
A *lot* would depend on how much time you have at your disposal... I'm 
afraid, I forgot what it was you said *you* had, so whatever I say will 
have to be evaluated "sideways".

If time is *realy short*, pre-wind and pre-prick, to set them up for a 
"meanigful experience" (gee, but I love all this PC double-speak, 
cloaking up the "can't do squat even if fertilised from God's loo, but 
one has to make an effort" ). A *lot* of work, but not unprecedented 
-- I was in a class once (Michael Giusiana's Flanders, geared for both 
beginners and intermediates) -- where *stacks* of prickings had been 
prepared against every possible need (blew my mind, but Giusiana, like 
Loehr, is one of those people who refuse to respond to "average" )

I had a long-lasting "affair" with Russian tape lace (plain tape which 
outlines the shape; with highly decorative grounds executed via two 
pairs, and an intimate acquaintance with a crochet hook thrown in). 
Following a "close encounter" with Torchon, and preceding the "mutually 
satisfying arrangement" with Milanese (*decorated* tape)...

My *personal* "take" on "tape lace" (as in Russian) for beginners is: 
*stay away*. It's a lace that "sang" to me through centuries of genes 
but, *even so*, I was *bored rigid* with it in places. The only reason 
I stuck with it as long as I had was the combination of the past (the 
uspecified "they" had done it and it was lovely) and the greed for the 
future (I could immitate Battenberg -- my favourite lace at the time -- 
quickly). *Per se* it was deadly (of course, in '88, I didn't see much 
of the fancy grounds; it was tape, tape, tape, with a few plaits and 
some picots in between)

Tape lace requires very few pairs (a plus for beginners), but it 
doesn't begin to look like *anything* (much less lace") until you've 
done *miles* of it, to the point where it's sewn back on itsef (it may 
only *be* 6" but, after the first half-inch, it *feels* like -- 
undeserved -- purgatory )

Jean Barrett's leaf/fish is far more interesting, but requires an 
uneven shape (skinny/fat/skinny); to look its best, it would require 
adding and removing pairs. Don't kno aboutt the rest of you but, for 
me, keeping track of a *steady* number of pairs was a chore in the 
beginning; adding and removing (safely!) is something "I have issues 
with" 15 yrs "down the road"...

I dug up the book from which I learnt lacemaking's beginnings-- 
Jennifer Fisher's "Torchon Lace for Today". The first two chapters are 
"general info" -- how to make your pillow, how to wind your bobbins, 
etc... Ch.3 is a "bandage" of sorts; 7prs, and you learn how to make 
cloth and half (and cloth again), how to make the "round the pin" 
footside, and how to start on a "level" line (though not with a 
*visible* horizontal line)... It's in colours, to help you keep track 
of what's happening... I messed that one *so* badly (because of the 
half stitch) that I didn't even throw it away; I've kept it as a sort 
of "memento mori", against the future excess of hubris... :)

Chapter 4 is a Torchon Ground insertion (10prs); again in colour, but 
with "proper" (sewing) footsides... I couldn't *see* the stitches, and 
Scotch plaid (which is what the b&w photo looked like) is not anywhere 
near my favourite design... There was a start to the project (wimpy 
again) and no end... All in all, I decided nothing would be lost if I 
skipped it entirely :)

Chapter 5, however... Chapter 5 is, IMO, a darling :) It requires 4 
pairs only (I made mine with 5; by then, I was beginning to get an idea 
of what had to be changed on a grid to accomodate more/fewer pairs). It 
is -- yet again -- in colour; two passives in one (colour), two work 
pairs in another. The passives are shown *both*: as straight 
(untwisted/cloth stitched) and as twisted (one could alternate 
stretches of each for greater interest). The *two work pairs* are what 
take the cake  :) On one side, they make the normal exchange, necessary 
for a *sewing* footside -- pin under 4 (threads). On the other side, 
there's no 3rd wkpr waiting, so the worker twists around the pin (as in 
peasant laces) and goes back through the row...

It's one of the "simple perfection" cases :) You learn cloth and whole 
stitch (in the passives). You learn *both* footsides at once (

[lace] Finishing bobbins

2004-01-18 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thank you all for your help and suggestions.  There have been some clever
ideas, and I now have a wide variety of finishes to decide on.  You are all
wonderful!
Gratefully,
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, - where it is hot and sunny today.
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Re: [lace] Convention planning

2004-01-18 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Thank you, Ruth, for sending us your experience with the 2004 IOLI Convention
Committee. You are an expert, I believe, in teaching Lace 2000 computer
designing.  I had heard indirectly about the forms for tutors to submit for this
year's convention, and am pleased you let us know directly.

Clay, you have asked a question that we to which we would all like to have an
answer.  Does this committee have ANY defense for their actions?  Apparently
they didn't seek the advice of the IOLI Board, and yet IOLI is supposed to feed
the kitty when the cat food sack is almost empty...


> It would be a matter of curiosity for me to know the
> credentials of the conference committee members with regard
> to their experience in IOLI conventions specifically, and
> their awareness of the needs and wishes of the members of
> IOLI in general.  Given the scrutiny they chose to apply to
> potential teachers, they surely wouldn't object to
> publicizing that information, if asked
> ...  If the committee works without the consent or
> advice of the leadership, they should bear the burden of
> risk.

Boycotting Betty

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Re: [lace] Convention planning-interesting

2004-01-18 Thread Dmt11home
I am sorry that Ruth was deterred by the paper work involved in the current 
convention because I would like to meet her. But now, I am even more eager to 
see how this convention turns out.
As workshop chairman of a local group for many years I had ample opportunity 
to observe how a gifted and talented teacher could give a class that was a 
total disaster by the simple expedient of refusing to provide a detailed class 
description or timely materials list. The presence in the class of people who 
wouldn't have taken the class if they had known what it really was and the 
experience of fighting the wrong materials invariably resulted in calls to string 
up the workshop organizer, myself.
In my time, I have run down the hall of the national convention pleading with 
a teacher to give me a materials list for a class due to start 2 days after 
the convention, only to be treated as an annoying pest. I have actually settled 
myself in a chair in a teacher's home and refused to leave until she produced 
a class description. I have had all the materials for an entire class fed 
exed to myself when the materials list was given out 3 days in advance of a class 
and required a very unusual thread carried by only one dealer and she on the 
west coast. There wasn't time to call everyone in the class to tell them the 
materials, let alone have them each order them. Perhaps the requirements to 
produce so much paper were designed to weed out those people who will not produce 
paper!
Part of this dialogue, unfortunately, is that the teachers aren't paid enough 
to make them care whether they are not asked to teach and the students don't 
want to pay more when they calculate that half the classes they take are a 
complete waste of time and money to to some avoidable oversight.
Devon

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Re: [lace] Convention planning

2004-01-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
From: "Ruth Budge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Whilst you're all thinking about convention planning, I'd
like to tell you
> about another aspect of this year's IOLI
organisation..
> What I received was a six-page questionnaire ->,..
> My conservative estimate of the time it would take for me
to fill in the form
> was probably 3 days - in reality it'd probably take
longer - by the time I'd
> prepared all the necessary submissions
> Even tutors at previous IOLI conventions assured me that
> there has never been such an intensive application form
for tutors before, and
> nearly gave up as a result..

I'd like to comment on that.  It is my understanding that
the reason that we don't see a lot of our familiar favorite
teachers is that (a) they didn't have the time to complete
the forms,
(b) they assumed that having taught at IOLI for decades, it
was well known who they were and what they taught, or (c)
they were offended by the requirement and threw it in the
trash.  I don't blame them for any of the above -
particularly if they're Honorary Members of IOLI who were
given that honor on the basis of their contributions to
lacemaking!!  This begs the question - did the committee
members even know who they were?

It would be a matter of curiosity for me to know the
credentials of the conference committee members with regard
to their experience in IOLI conventions specifically, and
their awareness of the needs and wishes of the members of
IOLI in general.  Given the scrutiny they chose to apply to
potential teachers, they surely wouldn't object to
publicizing that information, if asked.

Having said that (yes, I'm "underwhelmed" by the
organization of this year's convention), I again stress that
IOLI is about the organization, not the committee that
organized this year's event.  Whatever we do, we must be
careful not to damage the structure of the organization.  It
seems to me there is still time for the organizers to issue
a "mea culpa" and modify some things before the March 1
deadline.  But I'm not holding my breath.

If the organizers have to shell out huge amounts of money to
cover shortfalls in revenue, then they will have the proof
that their ideas weren't so hot after all.  And I, for one,
would be very upset if I knew that IOLI had to be liable for
that...  If the committee works without the consent or
advice of the leadership, they should bear the burden of
risk.  If loads of young, employed, schedule-challenged
lacemakers swarm to Harrisburg, we'll all cheer and embrace
them!  Either way, I think that organizers of the future
will have a clear understanding of the needs and preferences
of the members who patronize the conventions.  I'm confident
that IOLI leadership will make the changes which,  as we
will learn from this experience, must be made.  I'm also
confident that other groups who consider hosting IOLI in the
future will continue to be  open to the suggestions and
lessons learned by other groups - as has been the practice
for so many years prior to this one.

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA

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[lace] Heart Pattern

2004-01-18 Thread julia wallace
I was recently given a pattern book from a lady helping me with my project.  
It's called "A Nosegay of Hankies" - 15 new designs by Beryl Gorse.  They're 
fine torchon edgings (sorry, can't remember what type of lace you required). 
 There are a no. of hankie edgings in it with hearts and fans, Lydia, 
Emily, Julie patterns in particular.  The contact at the front is Larkfield 
Crafts, Hilary Ricketts, 4 Island Cottages, Mapledurwell, Basingstoke, 
Hants, tel: Hackwood 6585.

Not sure if it's any help.  Suspect Vivienne from Biggins has probably 
already contacted you by now, as i'm sure from her abundance of fantastic 
patterns at least one will fit the bill.

Julia

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[lace] Convention planning

2004-01-18 Thread Ruth Budge
Whilst you're all thinking about convention planning, I'd like to tell you
about another aspect of this year's IOLI organisation.

About 14 months ago, an American member suggested that I should put my name
forward as a standby teacher at this convention.  A teacher who had been asked
for a very specialised subject was known to have serious and ongoing health
problems, and it was thought a backup would be a wise thing.

I contacted the relevant person and explained what had been suggested to me - 
she agreed it sounded a good idea to have a backup and forwarded me the forms
to fill in.

What I received was a six-page questionnaire - easy ones included "are you
currently a member of the IOLI?";  "List dates and class subjects if you've
been an instructor at previous conventions";  "List, by order of preference, no
more than five techniques/mediums in which you teach".

Then the forms moved onto questions such as:  "Write a biographical statement
AND attach a current resume outlining your lace or fiber-related activities";  
"Tell us about yourself and your lace-related/textile experience.  How many
years have you been teaching organised clases (i.e. conventions, conferences,
workshops etc., planned by an organised group)?  In what lace, needlework or
related organisation do you hold membership or have certification?".

A slide, lecture or other presentation was required from the tutor to help in
the selection process, as well as 2 - 3 photos/slides of current work
pertaining to their proposal for promotional purposes.

And finally, a paper copy of the proposal description and biographical
statement AND the same on disk.

Oh!  and I forgot!  Names of two referees if you have not taught at an IOLI
Convention - difficult for a non-American, because anyone who could vouch for
my credentials in this field would themselves be unknown to the Keystone Lacers
and there would themselves need to be checked out.

My conservative estimate of the time it would take for me to fill in the form
was probably 3 days - in reality it'd probably take longer - by the time I'd
prepared all the necessary submissions.

I'm *not* criticising the committee for checking out the credentials of
would-be tutors, especially those not known to them, but I am critical of the
way it was done.  Even tutors at previous IOLI conventions assured me that
there has never been such an intensive application form for tutors before, and
nearly gave up as a result.

At the time, in addition to upheavals in my private life such as my Father's
health dramatically deteriorating, I was preparing to teach the same course for
another Guild, and I became thoroughly discouraged by the amount of time and
effort required just to apply to be a *standby* tutor, so decided not to
bother. 

It felt to me as if the organising committee had a member who was used to
finding executive staff for a large million-dollar company, and hadn't been
able to adapt to playing a part in what is, after all, a group of amateurs
enjoying a hobby.  And that last comment is in no way downplaying how large
that group may be, how many people attend the IOLI convention, how much
organisation the convention takes or how much financial juggling is required to
make the convention budget balance.   

I know just how much work goes into organising these things - I've been
involved in similar projects myself.  But part of the skill in such
organisation is to make everyone feel welcome to take part, in whatever
capacity, not to make people feel as if they've got to jump through so many
hoops that they give up before even trying.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) 

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Re: [lace] Enslaving the young

2004-01-18 Thread dominique
now that's what i call strategy   .. let's just hope these young 
persons don't belong to arachne or have a very bad memory .  
...or rather let's hope they read arachne and have learnt how  to become 
the president without ever asking for it ... 

 well done Devon !..

dominique from Paris 

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[2004/01/18 20:08]

> Jeri wrote: A carefully-considered plan will help. How about this one?
> 
> 
> Year one.
> Target young person at convention. Laugh at her jokes. Ask about her 
> children. Provide advice about how to obtain lace supplies. Ask young 
> person to write 

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Re: [lace] Making Time for Lace

2004-01-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Jeri, I know you said you thought your message wasn't worth commenting 
on, but I feel that since you posted it I ought to mention: I have one 
friend who became a successful published author that way.  I have 
another friend who became mentally ill from lack of sleep. Voices, 
suicide attempts, medical, psychiatric, and police interventions - the 
whole 9 yards, and it took two years for her to get better. So, be 
warned: you can make yourself very seriously ill from ignoring your 
body's requirements.

There are many books out there regarding time management. Many stress 
examining your daily routine - if you keep a diary of exactly what you 
do every half-hour of the day you may soon see some time-wasters 
cropping up, or some times (like train/bus commutes) when you can do 
something else as well. If you swear everything you do is both 
important and unavoidable, and yet you still don't have enough time to 
do what you want to do, you may need to examine your priorities.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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[lace] Making Time for Lace

2004-01-18 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lacemakers,

My lifestyle is flawed in the eyes of quite a few.  So take from this what 
appeals, if anything.  

Years ago, I developed a plan for the years ahead (much like a business 
plan).  It was laid out by decade and took into consideration where and how I 
wished to live in the future:  What I wanted to achieve by age 40, 50, 60, etc.  
Part of that plan is simply explained below.  It is not worthy of additional 
comments or criticism from those who could not do it, but may help some people on 
this list to develop their own strategy.

This is how I "made time" for my textile addictions when I was a stressed-out 
37-year-old and had a difficult relationship (since dissolved), daily 4-hour 
commute (2 hours each way), and demanding career.  

The solution, for this phase of my life, was to rise at 3 a.m. and "play" for 
two hours when no one else had demands on my time.  Then, I prepared for the 
long commute and work.  Yes, I became tired after lunch each day, but it was 
on someone else's clock.  I scheduled work-related errands for after lunch and 
tried to avoid boring meetings at that time of day.

Payoff:  The gift of creativity first.  This is somewhat like the financial 
advice given to working people -- pay yourself first (that theory is to deduct 
savings and invest before you even see your paycheck - if you save the first 
hour's earnings each day before you get your hands on it, in time it will add 
up to a lot for your retirement).  Even though it was difficult to make 
financial and creativity ends meet, it worked for me.  I retired at age 56, and have 
been concentrating on lace and embroidery ever since.  

It helps if you have lots of energy and can train yourself to get by on less 
hours of sleep a night.  Many years later, I am automatically on short 
sleeping hours.  It is "found time".  Not for everyone, and not worthy of comments 
one way or the other.  It might work for a fraction of our 1,000+ Arachnes.  It 
is to that busy (mostly-lurking) fraction that I am writing.  Adding a weekend 
afternoon "beauty" nap is helpful, if family and commitments will permit.  It 
acts like a powerful vitamin - boosts your Monday morning energy level.

Ideally, everyone would have some control over a few hours of life each day.  
It's worth retraining people around you so everyone has a win-win situation.  
While you are having your special time, they have theirs.  Your lacing time 
will increase, if this is something you can do.  You might start retraining 
your body to accept less sleep in 1/2 hour increments.  Even in that short 
time-span you can spangle bobbins, wind bobbins with thread, prick a pattern, read a 
portion of a new lace book, etc.  I let breakfast and a shower wait until 
their normal times in my schedule, since the odor of brewing coffee and the sound 
of the shower water running could disrupt the household.

Another thing I did was to banish TV from the house until about the time I 
retired.  Read into this what you will; it was a good decision for me in years 
when there were not enough hours in a day.

No regrets on personal time management,

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Enslaving the young

2004-01-18 Thread Dmt11home
Jeri wrote: A carefully-considered plan will help. How about this one?


Year one.
Target young person at convention. Laugh at her jokes. Ask about her 
children. Provide advice about how to obtain lace supplies. Ask young person to write 
up convention report for local newsletter. Praise her for her prose and 
computer skills. Suggest she edit newsletter.
Year two
Call young person frequently on the phone asking her how she is and offering 
lace advice. If necessary visit her at home to assist her through difficult 
talley. Listen sympathetically to any marital or job complaints.  If she appears 
lonely and wants friends suggest the hearty commaraderie of putting on a lace 
day as the antidote. Every vulnerability can be exploited into free labor for 
the lace group.
Year three
Present young person with specially inscribed bobbin at annual banquet in 
congratulations for her work on the newsletter. Follow up with phone call to 
propose she become secretary.
Year four
The young person will be refining her lace goals at this point. It is an 
excellent moment to suggest that the way she could achieve them would be to become 
program chairman and design every program to suit her personal needs.
Year five
This is the year to drop the net and make her vice president. Any 
protestations that she doesn't have enough time must be met with tearful assertions 
that 
only she has the efficiency to make the group fulfill its full potential. It 
might also be good to lay the groundwork for her to quit her job by assuring 
her that she owes it to her husband and children.
Year six.
If all has gone well, it is time to move her into the presidency. If the 
husband is balking, it is time to suggest that she needs to "do something for 
herself". 
Year seven
When she tries to withdraw from the presidency, tell her that the group will 
disband if she doesn't remain, as no one else will be president. 

 :-) :-) :-) :-)

Devon

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Re: [lace] IOL Convention-enslaving the young

2004-01-18 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 1/18/04 11:33:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> A campaign of friendship inspired by 
> self-interest may result in the young person offering to edit the newsletter 
> or 
> run spreadsheets on the Lace Day consignment business. Before long, she 
> might 
> be induced to be club secretary or chair some loathesome committee and those 
> 
> members of the club who have already served in these capacities can 
> concentrate 
> on making lace and offering advice.
> Devon
> who belongs to several clubs where everyone has been president already and 
> no 
> one wants to do it again
> 

--
Dear Lacemakers,

A bit of experience informs my response to the above.  

It is an excellent idea and worthy of our support.

However, it is important not to overload a young, new member.  Chances are 
that she will be excited and willing at first, but that too much extra 
responsibility (on top of her other absolute commitments) can lead to burnout or a 
spouse demanding she give up her extra obligations.  

New talent needs to be nurtured with fun lace-related experiences for a 
couple years before being asked to take on more.  We must not forget how many other 
obligations young members are under.

A carefully-considered plan will help.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] IOL Convention-enslaving the young

2004-01-18 Thread Dmt11home
I have been thinking some more about this year's format of the convention 
which is clearly designed to make lace instruction available to people who work 
and may not want to expend an entire week of vacation on it. It is entirely 
possible that this will be successful and that there might be a higher proportion 
of younger, working people at the convention than previously. These people 
are often quite adept at using computers and have other desirable skills. Those 
local clubs whose members are exhausted from the clerical tasks associated 
with running their groups would be well-advised to attend the convention and cosy 
up to young computer adept attendees. A campaign of friendship inspired by 
self-interest may result in the young person offering to edit the newsletter or 
run spreadsheets on the Lace Day consignment business. Before long, she might 
be induced to be club secretary or chair some loathesome committee and those 
members of the club who have already served in these capacities can concentrate 
on making lace and offering advice.
Devon
who belongs to several clubs where everyone has been president already and no 
one wants to do it again

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[lace] Hester Bobbins

2004-01-18 Thread Shirlee Hill
I used to have some bobbins, I believe they were by Matthew Hester?  Is he still 
making bobbins?  Does anyone have contact info for him?  A website, perhaps?
 
Shirlee

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Fw: [lace] lace pattern with hearts

2004-01-18 Thread Antje González
Hi Tracey
Perhaps a bit late for your heart pattern? I found this site, which is also
a bobbin lace course. YOu miayt find it interesting.
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/hearts.htm
There is no corner, but it is easy to make, as the pattern is so geometric.
I hope it is usegul.
Good luck
Antje, from a very cold and windy Spain today.

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Re: [lace] teaching classes

2004-01-18 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Sharon,
A smaller alternative to the 'snake' would be to draw a leaf sort of 
shape, perhaps 1 and a half to 2 inches long. With suitable colours, in 
pearl cotton or similar this can be turned into a fish. You can add an 
eye with a bead and bundle the pairs at the end just as you do with the 
snake, but careful cutting can turn the threads into a fan tail. It can 
be worked a second time in half stitch as well. They can be mounted on 
card and taken home to show off. I know a friend used this at a Guide 
camp to introduce lace, and I have usd this at taster classes where we 
knew tha most of the learner would be children.
Jean in Cleveland U,K,
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On Saturday, January 17, 2004, at 10:56 PM, rick &sharon wrote:

Dear Lorelei and all you other kind spiders who have responded.  I'm
beginning to revise my opinion about using the snake as a starter 
project
since a couple of you pointed out some areas of potential difficulty.
Perhaps the boring bandage might be best after all?  I hadn't thought 
of
tape lace as a second choice.  I do have Pam Nottingham's "Bobbin Lace
Making"  it's the book I used to teach myself  20 yrs ago and has been 
as
much my "bible" as the Cookbook :)  I have to admit though, I 
completely
skipped the tape lace lessons because they didn't look like "real" 
lace to
me.  What is the opinion of  other lacers?  Would tape lace grab you?  
One
of the laces suggested is more or less a meander with sewings in the 
middle
of the loops.  Sorry to keep bugging you, but I don't want to have to
"re-invent the wheel" when I know that there might have been others in 
a
similar situation.  Thanks.   Sharon  on dull Vancouver Island

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