[lace] Dover winter sale

2004-01-20 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
 Hi All,

Got a notice from Dover, thought some of you might be interested. Only 
one lace book listed, but it's an interesting one for those who like to 
design or "meddle" with existing patterns...

http://www.doverpublications.com/winter_sale/ws_nc.html
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-20 Thread Ruth Budge
In Australia, we've always had all-day classes.  We also do have quite a few
members with health and aging problems.  

Classes start at 9.30 a.m., with a 20 minute break for morning tea about 10.30
a.m., and an hour for lunch at 12.30.   Classes resume at 1.30 p.m. and run
till 3.30 p.m.   So the day is actually "broken up" into time-slots of
concentration of an hour before morning tea, about an hour and a half before
lunch, and 2 hours in the afternoon.

Certainly, if you need to concentrate for six hours straight without a break,
it'd be difficult, but surely there will be breaks planned in these whole-day
classes???

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
"Panza, Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I can
understand that some people (in addition to you) may have trouble with
all-day classes, and those people will be penalized this year by the change
in schedule. 

However, just because something works for one, that doesn't mean it's not
broken by others' standards. I found it quite frustrating having only
half-day instruction. If I wanted to take more than one class, it meant
"changing gears" mentally, owning and transporting two complete sets of
equipment, and having the projects conflict as far as what to do during
off-time. I rather like the idea of having one class all-day for 2 days,
followed by a different class all-day for two days. I can use the same
equipment for the second class, which means I pack half as much. I can
think only about that class and not get those instructions muddled with the
other, which means I'll get more out of each class. 

I'm not convinced this year's plan is the best, but I'm willing to give it a
try. If it turns out well, then great--those who had problems with the
former format will have finally had their needs fulfilled. If it turns out
dismally, I'll be glad it wasn't my decision and hope future committees
learn from the experience.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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[lace] patterns

2004-01-20 Thread Wildgun004smate
Hi ya'll,

It's me again and I finally finished the bookmark, and I was given my diploma 
 :) from the lady in England.  Now the big thing is if anybody has any 
patterns (with instructions) that they would like to share, I would be greatly 
appreciative.  DH and I live on a fixed income but I want more to do.  I would 
love to learn about tape lace and sewings.  Not quite sure what thats all about 
but I am willing to learn.  Anyway thats it for my begging and I promise to 
work hard and lace happy. :)

Thanks,

Lynn
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in cold and snowy Clarksburg, West Virginia   B:)

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[lace] IOLI Convention Schedule Benefits

2004-01-20 Thread Patricia Dowden
Dear Spiders,

While I don't even know for sure that I will go to IOLI this year, (contemplating 
OIDFA in Prague - can I do both?) for me the issue with IOLI is the time - a whole 
week.

I only get a limited amount of vacation time and I need and want to spend some of it 
with DH.  The new IOLI schedule allows me to think about splitting a  week between a 
class, freeze dried into 2 days, and visiting friends with DH in Lancaster.  To me, 
this is an attractive option.  I know at least one teacher that sees this possibility 
of not having to dedicate a whole week to the enterprise as a benefit. 

Change is usually uncomfortable, but if we understand the setup from the outset, then 
we should be able to derive the most advantage from the event.  One change I would 
like to see from last year is a public place to congregate and make lace and meet and 
greet all the other lacers and friends.  I went to the 2002 IOLI and vastly enjoyed 
making lace in the foyer of the hotel.  The hotel employees and other guests seemed 
genuinely delighted to see us all working away and all the trappings.  It was 
something I missed very sorely last year.  I think the layout of the hotel in 2003 
wasn't suited for it.  

While IOLI has a quorum issue for conducting business, it seems to me that every 
convention attendee (because they are delegates) should have an absentee ballot 
available if they will not be able to attend the General Session.  This may require a 
change to the governing rules of IOLI, but it seems to be a possible satisfactory 
resolution.

Musing

Patty Dowden

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[lace] need address

2004-01-20 Thread
Sorry to post to this list, but this is where most of the lacers are.  Does
anybody know the e-mail addy of Ruth Giles in Ontario?  I really need to get
in contact with her.  Thanks.   Sharon

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RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Clive and Betty Ann Rice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. It is very tiring for some of us, regular supporters of IOLI and
attendees of past Conventions, with chronic illness plus some years under
our skin, to go for 6 hours a day when the classes could have been scheduled
3 hours a day for 4 days.
8. The scheduling of classes of previous IOLI Conventions was "not broken so
why fix it."<<<

Sorry, Betty Ann, but I feel the need to comment on this (I see them as the
same point).  I agree with your right to boycott any event that doesn't
provide you with what you want, and have no argument there.  I can
understand that some people (in addition to you) may have trouble with
all-day classes, and those people will be penalized this year by the change
in schedule.  

However, just because something works for one, that doesn't mean it's not
broken by others' standards.  I found it quite frustrating having only
half-day instruction.  If I wanted to take more than one class, it meant
"changing gears" mentally, owning and transporting two complete sets of
equipment, and having the projects conflict as far as what to do during
off-time.  I rather like the idea of having one class all-day for 2 days,
followed by a different class all-day for two days.  I can use the same
equipment for the second class, which means I pack half as much.  I can
think only about that class and not get those instructions muddled with the
other, which means I'll get more out of each class.  

I'm not convinced this year's plan is the best, but I'm willing to give it a
try.  If it turns out well, then great--those who had problems with the
former format will have finally had their needs fulfilled.  If it turns out
dismally, I'll be glad it wasn't my decision and hope future committees
learn from the experience.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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Re: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-20 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
I had meant to say no more about my not attending this year's IOLI Convention,
but some have misunderstood my boycott. Here's the skinny about my stand:

1. I object to having a 12 hour class on two days, i.e. the class I would hope
to take would be 6 hours on Monday and Tuesday.

2. It is very tiring for some of us, regular supporters of IOLI and attendees of
past Conventions, with chronic illness plus some years under our skin, to go for
6 hours a day when the classes could have been scheduled 3 hours a day for 4
days. Always was before.

3. I would have to stay in the hotel until Friday to be able to attend the AGM
and banquet.  Sure, I could take more classes, but I only want to learn what I
have time to master, and what I WANT to learn.

4. I would have no admittance to sales room  *without a fee,* except on the days
I am registered for class.

5. I have NO OBJECTION to the prices charged except for the sales room fee noted
above.  I can afford the Convention, I can afford to stay in the hotel for a
week or a month, I can afford to take more classes, and I can afford to make
lace.

6. I don't want more classes and I don't want to hang around the hotel paying to
shop on the days I'm not in class just to attend the IOLI AGM and banquet.

5. I am using "boycott" by abstaining from the 2004 Convention as a means of
forcing change. Look it up.

6. I am free; I can stay away; I can encourage change to this year's schedule; I
can influence you to do the same. I am American and I like George Bush

7. I am NOT advocating Keystone Lacers go in the hole financially to let me shop
if I'm not in class.  That's ludicrous.

8. The scheduling of classes of previous IOLI Conventions was "not broken so why
fix it."

9. Many of you who are posting, "don't have a dog in the fight" - if you support
the way this Convention is planned, then go.  By the way, join IOLI as well...

As Ever, Still Boycotting Betty

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RE: [lace] Modify an old pattern to a new pattern

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to reproduce this edging in a circular format.  How might I go
about doing that? <<<

It's reasonably easy to copy the design onto polar coordinate graph paper.
This is graph paper arranged in a circle, so the "vertical" lines of the
original correspond to circles and the "horizontal" lines of the original
correspond to radial lines.  It takes a little concentration, but you mark
the pinholes on the polar paper by hand.

Before you start, count how many pinholes (footside is easiest) to make one
repeat and then find a circle on a polar paper that has an even multiple of
that.  Polar paper doesn't just have bigger and bigger distances between
radials.  After a line goes a certain distance from the center, the blocks
are so big that the next ring has twice as many radial lines.  

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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[lace] convention comments

2004-01-20 Thread Vasna Zago
Dear Friends-
Greetings from snowy Colorado!  It's been a while since I was on this list,
but I just wanted to pop in and say howdy!  I hope the new year is treating
everyone well.
What has interested me recently is the flurry of e-mails about this years
IOLI convention.  Being in the throes of planning the 2005 convention,
I have watched the plans for the 2004 convention unfold with great interest.
I admire the Keystone Lacers for trying something different.  I think it
was a bold and courageous venture to revamp the convention and risk the
kind of criticism they have been receiving here.  I hope their convention
is a tremendous success.  Each and every one of you should hope the same.
Planning a convention is an exciting and horrible task.  :->
Balancing budgetary constraints with participant want is tricky at best.
We would like it very much to be all about the lace, to have
100 teachers and 500 participants come and stay where they want,
offer only the kinds of classes YOU in particular would like to take,
and give away registrations and meals and gifts galore.  Unfortunately,
it doesn't work that way.  Always, ALWAYS, there is a fear of losing money.
Budget drives convention planning.  A convention budget runs about a quarter
of a million dollars, and usually it is only a dozen (or several dozen,
if you're lucky) people with little experience but a lot of enthusiasm
who are trying to please lace makers across the world for
one week in the summer.
Historically, we have had it very easy with regard to registration
fees for IOLI conventions.  At most conventions nowadays, registration
fees run between $200-$300.  We are lucky to only be paying $150-ish!
Everything you get at convention comes out of this registration fee.
All your gifts, your meals, the evening programs, and even things you
don't think about, like security in the vending room, and copying costs
for the packets you get from your teacher, etc. etc., all comes out
of this one little fee.
Also, it is commonplace now to have a commuter fee.  People who attend
the convention but do not stay in the convention hotel are literally
costing the host group HUNDREDS of dollars.  The same holds true when
people get their rooms through "CheapRoomsRUs.Com"  The hotel
(and thus the host group) does not "capture" those rooms nights,
and it costs the host group money.  Therefore, it is best for the
host group if you stay in the convention hotel and give them the room
nights needed to help make a successful convention.
It is not just up to the host group to "make" a successful convention.
It is also up to YOU, the participants.  My plea today is to remind
people that the Keystone Lacers are doing the best they can under
difficult circumstances.
They are hoping for your support.  Please give it to them.

Regards and love,

Vasna Zago
Many people don't realize that playing dead can help not
only with bears, but also at important business meetings.
- Jack Handey
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Subject: Re: [lace] IOLI Previews

2004-01-20 Thread Bridget Marrow
Spare a thought for us poor Brits.  It'll be at least another fortnight 
before I get my copy of the  Bulletin.

Bridget, in damp and dreary Hertfordshire, UK

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[lace] RE: Convention planning

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
One thing that was useful when planning an ornithological convention was
that the organization kept a set of files that were passed from one local
committee to the next.  It included budgets (including who you got quotes
from), what you decided to do (and, generally, why), and a post-event
self-evaluation.  This last was meant as a "warning" to future local
committees about what went well and what was a flop.  

Since this was kept and passed on year after year, you could more readily
learn from several years' worth of past-committee successes and mistakes.
So even if everyone on your committee went to last year's event, there was
also info from years before.

This would be a good thing for IOLI's committee on events/convention
oversight to begin and maintain.  For the ornithological organization, there
were two copies--one held by next year's local committee and one by the
following year's--of all the materials for the past several (5?) years.
When this year's local committee was done, it sent its recommendations and
warnings to the organization, to be forwarded to the future local
committees.

just a suggestion,
Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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[lace] Lace dealer's web-site

2004-01-20 Thread Rosemary Brown
Just a quicky to thank whoever it was that a week ago recommended a web-site, 
www.mendes.co.uk.  I took a look and found a beautiful array of highly valuable pieces 
offered for sale, from a firm trading in Brighton.  I live just outside Brighton and 
had never heard of them. A quick email to them and I have permission to take a group 
of students to view their stock. ( I don't think any of us will be rich enough to buy 
anything there..) Am I looking forward to this!  I'll keep you posted when it happens!

Best wishes and New Year greetings,

Rosemary in Sussex

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