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[lace] Re: Arachne at OIDFA Prague

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Jun 17, 2004, at 18:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lunch Sunday sounds good to me. Any comments?
Have a good one... :)  I'll be day-tripping Friday and Sunday, since I 
won't be going on the post-Congress Tour. So, Sunday, it's 
Letohrad/Zamberk/Vamberk for me, and I have no idea what time I'll be 
back, except late in the evening (I assume, since dinner's included in 
the schedule). I think I'll just have to catch as many of you as I can 
during the pre-Congress workshops and on Saturday (sacred to shopping 
for me; not stirring anywhere that day ), especially at the 
Banquet...

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Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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Re: [lace] Hankies

[Alice Howell]

At 02:34 PM 6/17/2004, you wrote:
She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and
wants to add a lace edging to them.  I know to use cotton thread on cotton,
or linen thread on a linen hankerchief. Should we:
a.  wash the hankerchief and lace edging before attaching the lace, and hope
the lace fits after washing.
While I prefer "d" (making the fabric fit the lace), I must put a comment 
to "a".  If a person has a hemmed handkerchief and really wants to use it, 
I would modify this option.  Wash the hanky first, then 
measure.  Hopefully, it is close to square.  Make the lace an inch longer 
on each side than the longest side of the hanky.  When done, pre-shrink the 
lace, then attach.  Hopefully, at this point, the lace is still just a bit 
larger than the fabric.  1/2" is ideal per side.  Pin corners, and the 
centers of each side.  Ease half of the excess into the stitching on each 
side of the center pins.  You will find that 1/4" will ease in and 
disappear.  This extra 'ease' on each side will also hide small 
irregularities in the size or squareness of the hanky.

It the hanky is definitely rectangular, the lace should be made accordingly.
Not a rule -- just a personal viewpoint.
Happy lacing,
Alice in Oregon
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Re: [lace] Hankies

[Brenda Paternoster]

On 17 Jun 2004, at 22:34, W & N Lafferty wrote:
It's d.  or possibly e, if you have a fairly large hankie and a 
not-so-large edging.

Making the fabric fit the lace and not trying to make the lace fit the 
fabric is something I've been banging on about for years.

Brenda
Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had 
me
thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement 
and
wants to add a lace edging to them.  I know to use cotton thread on 
cotton,
or linen thread on a linen hankerchief. Should we:
a.  wash the hankerchief and lace edging before attaching the lace, 
and hope
the lace fits after washing
b.  wash the hankerchief, then attach the lace and hope the lace 
doesn't
shrink after attaching it
c.  attach the lace, then wash them & hope if there is shrinking, 
they'll
shrink at the same rate
d.  forget about useing a pre-made hankerchief, but make the lace the 
size
we want, wash it, then cut pre-shrunk fabric to fit the lace
e.  something I haven't thought of (all suggestions welcome!)

Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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RE: [lace] Hankies

[Patricia Dowden]

Mary writes:
Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had me 
thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and 
wants to add a lace edging to them.


Dear Mary,

Well, by pre-made, I assume hemmed.  

1.  Always pre-wash the hanky.

2.  Just because they are pre-made, doesn't mean that you have to use it that way. 
make a smaller hankie by cutting the hem off, if you want to, and just make wider 
lace!  Attach the lace with a 3 or 4 sided stitch, which are pulled thread technique.  
Then just trim the fabric away from the stitch line.

3.  If the hankie is hemstitched with a narrow hem or has a rolled edge, you can just 
attach the lace to it.  

4.  Once the lace is attached and the issue of washing arises, wash as for any highly 
regarded piece of lace:  soak it in distilled water, adding Orvus to the soak water if 
it is more soiled.  Orvus is a wetting agent that gets whatever shouldn't be on the 
fiber to float away, so strictly speaking it isn't a detergent and it rinses 
completely out.  The common wisdom is "be willing to drink the last rinse water" 
because it has nothing in it.

5.  I have had great success when washing my laces by spreading them on a flat piece 
of glass or acrylic.  The laces dry so smoothly that they don't need ironing.

6.  If you must iron a hanky with lace attached, first iron the lace, front side down 
on a soft surface, like a towel.  (You don't want to squash your lace flat, if you can 
help it).  After the lace is the way you want it, then iron the fabric that it is 
attached to.  Ironing essentially stretches out the fabric being ironed.  You want the 
cloth center to stretch to match the lace, not stretch the lace to match the cloth.  
This piece of advice was straight from the late Kaethe Kliot of Lacis in Berkeley.

Finally, it's your lace and your hankie.  When you like the looks of it and are 
satisfied, then that's the final word.


Patty Dowden


Mary writes:
Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had me 
thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and 
wants to add a lace edging to them.

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[lace] Re: Arachne at OIDFA Prague

[LACEELAIN]

In a message dated 6/6/2004 8:10:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> What's happened to the idea of an Arachne get-together in Prague.  I 
>  think Elaine was gathering the names.  I suggest breakfast or lunch on 
>  Sun.  (That's a purely selfish suggestion, since I'm trying to get 
>  Canadians together for breakfast on Sat., and there's a working lunch 
>  for Council members on Sat.)


Here I am, still collecting Arachne names going to Prague.  At this point, I 
have 27 on the list, but they are mainly US names.  It was my intention to 
have all Arachneans included.  Others perhaps haven't thought to send me their 
names. Lunch Sunday sounds good to me. Any comments?

Elaine Merritt
The Lace Museum
552 South Murphy Avenue
Sunnyvale CA 94086

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RE: [lace] Hankies

[Clay Blackwell]

Actually, another option is that if you like the linen the pre-made
handkerchiefs are made of, you can make your edging whatever size you want
(as long as it's smaller than the handkerchief), and when it's finished,
then cut the handkerchief accordingly.  Cut two adjoining sides first, hem
by whatever method you prefer, and after that, cut the other sides and
finish...  This helps insure the best possible fit.

Clay

Clay Blackwell
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> Mary writes:
> Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had me 
> thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and 
> wants to add a lace edging to them.  I know to use cotton thread on
cotton, 
> or linen thread on a linen hankerchief. Should we...

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[lace] Hankies - reply

[W & N Lafferty]

Hi Mary
Doing a clean up of my internet folders, and I haven't seen
anyone answer your query about attaching a hanky edge,
so I've sent it on to Lace.

The main thing to remember is that your lace will shrink when
you take all the pins out and take it off the pillow.  The amount
of shrinkage will vary from person to person (because of 
individual tension) and the type of thread used.

After that, it is more likely the fabric will shrink than the lace.
I usually pre-wash my pre-made hanky or the piece of hanky fabric
I will use, before attaching the lace or preparing the fabric for
the hanky.  But I don't wash the lace.

And the irritating thing about pre-made hankies, if they are
hemstitched ones, is that frequently they are not perfectly
square, more rectangular in shape.   I have a batch of pure
linen ones I bought from the UK to mount tatting on many
years ago, and they are decidedly rectangular!   I had to 
draft my own Torchon pattern which had a very small repeat
pattern (only 1.5cm across using DMC Cordonnet 100) 
but was about 4cm deep to get a good deep edge 
to go round.

And I think I've just discovered how to use my sewing machine
to make a good hemstitch style edge ready to receive a
row of crochet before attaching the lace by simple hand
slipping (my favourite method - turning hems, pin stitch,
etch, for me is very difficult.)  There is a fancy stitch on
my Janomi sewing machine which lookes like this  
XX.   If you use fine thread and a small wing 
needle, and a smallish width (but normal length)
it leaves a nice line of holes to crochet into inside, and strip
of reinforced X's, and you can cut just past the outer line
of holes to trim your fabric.   It even looked good yesterday
on fine hanky linen with some tissue paper underneath to
stabilise it.   Today I'll try it out on a complete square and
see how the crocheting goes.

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] Hankies

[W & N Lafferty]

Mary send the following to lace-chat recently, and I thought
I'd move it to lace, 'specially seeing things seem a bit slow.
I'll send a reply in a separate message.

Mary writes:
Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had me 
thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and 
wants to add a lace edging to them.  I know to use cotton thread on cotton, 
or linen thread on a linen hankerchief. Should we:
a.  wash the hankerchief and lace edging before attaching the lace, and hope 
the lace fits after washing
b.  wash the hankerchief, then attach the lace and hope the lace doesn't 
shrink after attaching it
c.  attach the lace, then wash them & hope if there is shrinking, they'll 
shrink at the same rate
d.  forget about useing a pre-made hankerchief, but make the lace the size 
we want, wash it, then cut pre-shrunk fabric to fit the lace
e.  something I haven't thought of (all suggestions welcome!)

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[lace] RE: Myth & Mystery

[Viv Dewar]

Thanks, jane
Will anyone else be there?

>Can anyone tell me whether photographs are permitted? 

There is a notice up in the gallery requesting those wishing to take
photos to sign the book at the reception desk, so as long as you conform
to that you shouldn't have any problems. There have been people taking
photos on at least one of the two occasions I have been over so far (one
of the advantages of only being 20 miles away!).


All being well, Carol Lee will be demonstrating with a
friend between 11.00 and 3.00 this Saturday.

-- 
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Myth & Mystery

[Jane Partridge]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Viv Dewar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Hi Everyone,
>I'm planning to visit the LG Myth & Mystery Exhibition in Coventry this
>Saturday.
>Can anyone tell me whether photographs are permitted? 

There is a notice up in the gallery requesting those wishing to take
photos to sign the book at the reception desk, so as long as you conform
to that you shouldn't have any problems. There have been people taking
photos on at least one of the two occasions I have been over so far (one
of the advantages of only being 20 miles away!).

It takes a lot of time to take everything in - but there is a sofa to
sit on! and do note that Janice Blair's Phoenix and another piece are on
a narrow strip of wall at the opposite end to where you enter the
gallery from the landing - between the two doorways into the adjoining
galleries - I nearly missed it! The catalogues and exhibition bobbins
are on the shelves in the "shop" area with some of Rosemarie Peel's
publications. All being well, Carol Lee will be demonstrating with a
friend between 11.00 and 3.00 this Saturday.

-- 
Jane Partridge

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[lace] Colorado State Fair Competition

[Vasna Zago]

Dear Spiders:

The Rocky Mountain Lace Guild would like to encourage entries to the 
Colorado State Fair this August.  Anyone in the world may submit lace for 
competition.  If you have never submitted to a competition before, a state 
fair is a good place to start.

The Colorado State Fair offers lace competition in the following classes:
* Torchon Lace
* Bobbin Lace, other than Torchon, continuous
* Bobbin Lace, other than Torchon, non-continuous (ie. Honiton, 
Duchesse, etc.)
* Tatting Thread size 80-200 (thinner threads)
* Tatting Thread size 5-75 (thicker threads)
* Tape Laces  -Russian, Battenberg, Princess, etc.
* Mixed Media  -lace technique must comprise at least 51% of piece
* Needle Lace
* Lace Christmas Ornament (other than crocheted or knitted)
* Novice/Youth -Age 16 and under OR making particular lace for less 
than three years.
The entry fee is $4.00 per item, limit one item per class.

Items are due at the fairgrounds (and may be mailed - see General Entry 
rules below for details) by 5:00 pm Friday, August 6, 2004.  Enclose return 
postage and items will be mailed back to you.

Premiums & Awards:
First place  $15.00
Second place  $10.00
Third place $5.00
Fourth place ribbon
Best of Show 1: Rosette awarded by the Colorado State Fair
Best of Show 2: the Dorothy Names prize, a special lace trimmed rosette 
awarded by the Rocky Mountain Lace Guild

To submit items:
The General Entry premium book can be found online at:

http://www.coloradosfair.com/html/exhibitorcenter/generalentry.asp

Scroll down to the General Entry section.
Click on "NeedleArts" for the pdf file.
Lace Entries are Division 109J (Tatting and Lace), classes 221-231

There is also a Men's needlework division, as well as other divisions such 
as cross stitch, quilting, crochet, knitting, etc, not to mention the cows 
and horses and jam and enormous pumpkins in other parts of the fair.  :-D

I encourage everyone to have a go!  Email me with any questions, and sorry 
about the length of this email.

Vasna Zago
If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

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[lace] Myth & Mystery

[Viv Dewar]

Hi Everyone,
I'm planning to visit the LG Myth & Mystery Exhibition in Coventry this
Saturday.
Can anyone tell me whether photographs are permitted? (I don't want the
hassle of carrying the camera if they aren't.) I do have control over
the flash - at least the camera does, provided it doesn't have operator
trouble!
Many thanks
Viv
Worcestershire UK

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[lace] Roller pillow

[Cherry Knobloch]

While visiting my Physical therapist a couple weeks ago, I noticed they 
have ethafoam cylinders! Of course, I had to squeeze one! It felt denser 
than the swim noodles. The Therapist gave me a copy of the catalog. 
The  cylinders aren't so very pricey but the shipping is. They come in 3, 4 
and 6 inch diameters, 36 inches long so there is plenty to share and split 
costs. I paid about $25 for a 4 by 36 inch roll. ( I also got a 
professional discount since I'm a nurse) For anyone interested, the phone 
number is 1 800-323-5547. They have a web site, 
http://www.sammonspreston.com/rehabCat.htm but you can't view the catalog 
from it, although you can order a catalog.

Cherry
Silken Web Lacemakers
Camp Hill, Pa USA
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[lace] Arachne FAQ - version 1.0

[Avital]

Dear Spiders,

Here is a first draft of the Arachne FAQ. Feedback and corrections are
welcome! Let me know if I've missed anything or if something should be
written more clearly for non-English speakers. Thanks.

I could send this out on a quarterly basis if this is of any use.

Best wishes,

Avital

>>>

ARACHNE FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Version 1.0 (17 June 2004)

1. I just came back from vacation and want to read what I missed. Where are
the archives?

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2. I haven't received a digest for two days. What should I do?

Go to the archives (see above). You can view the messages by date. If you
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missing a digest. Remember that the digest does not appear every day. The
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3. I checked the archives and definitely missed a digest. Where can I get
it?

E-mail Avital, the moderator, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (take the
"nospam" out of the e-mail address). I keep backups on CDs. Occasionally I
miss a digest, but my collection is fairly complete.

4. What are SPs (Secret Pals)?

Secret Pals are a monthly gift swap. The current coordinator is Brenda
Paternoster. E-mail her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (take the
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5. How do I thank my Secret Pal?

Send your thank-you note to lace-chat, not lace. If you are not subscribed
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Generally, we discourage advertising by professional vendors because that
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etc., etc."
Announcements in sigs are perfectly okay as long as the length of the sig
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13. How can I be a model of good Net behaviour?

Trim quotes: Remember that most of us have pretty good memories and it is
usually not necessary to quote more than a few lines of the posting to which
you are responding.

Use meaningful subject lines: If you are a digest subscriber, change the
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Stay on topic: If it's lace-related (including lace you may have seen on
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of your daughter's wedding, your reaction to a political figure, a movie, or
a TV show, then it probably belongs on lace-chat.

Please do not send a posting to both lace and lace-chat. (If you're not sure
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14. What is Arachne-7?

Arachne-7 is a sister list for planning the joint Arachne entry fo

[lace] Admin: digests => archives

[Avital]

Please, everyone, if you ever wonder where your digests are, before you ask
on the list, check the archives. I posted the URLs a couple days ago but
here they are again:

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Bookmark these sites. Save them in your favourites. Or save this e-mail in
your lace folder and go to these addresses. Look at the messages and see
whether any of them are familiar. That should tell you whether you are
missing a digest.

Finally, please remember that digests are sent out when 22K worth of
messages accumulates. Arachne is *not* a daily digest! The last digest was
sent out two days ago on June 15. Mary, you probably do have the latest
digest.

I don't have any control over the Arachne Web site, but I may type up a FAQ
so that these questions won't get posted so frequently.

Best wishes,

Avital
Moderator

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[lace] no digests

[Mary Robi]

Hello,
Sorry to post this, but I haven't received any digests for 2 days. Just 
checking to see that I'm still subscribed.

Mary
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