[lace] Where do ebayer seller get their ideas from?

2004-06-20 Thread Jean Nathan
I frequently wonder where ebay seller get their ideas on identification
from. Look at this lot:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=373158216
4rd=1

supposedly glass lace bobbins.

Unless I completely wrong and they're not for bobbin lace, which is the
assumption I made.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking

2004-06-20 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Devon,
 Michelle has done a
great job of pulling it all together, especially when one considers how
little *truly American* lace there has been made in the short time US
has been US.
I think this would be interesting for all list-members especialy those 
who are interested in lace-history. Could this be send on the list 
perhaps?
Greetings
Ilske

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[lace] Grid for a pentagon based pattern

2004-06-20 Thread Karen
I have a torchon pattern which I would like to redraft.  The original has
some distortion and needs enlarging, so starting from scratch would probably
be easier and safer.

The pattern is a five pointed star, and is worked as 5 segments, like a
pentagon.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can find a grid
suitable for this.  I believe the angle of the diamond the grid would be
based on need to be 72 and 108 degrees.  I've looked through all my lace
books and cannot find anything suitable.

Thanks,

Karen, in Coventry

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[lace] Coats Chain Mercer Crochet Cotton available free to a good home.

2004-06-20 Thread Karen
Coats Chain Mercer Crochet Cotton available free to a good home.  I believe
most are complete balls.
Willing to post to UK addresses.
Please email me direct by Saturday 26th June.  Let me know if you are
interested in just a small part of what is on offer and I'll divide up /
pull names out of  hat as needed.


Coats Chain Mercer Crochet Cotton

No  Colour  No of balls
5   610 (beige) 6
40  610 (beige) 1
60  610 (beige) 1
5   cream   2
20  608 (dark cream)1
20  901 (variagated yellow) 2
20  477 (brown) 4
20  765 (yellow)1
20  891 (variagated blue)   2 + part ball
20  889 (variagted purple)  2
20  884 (variagated pink)   2
20  8907 (space dyed green/blue/beige)  8

Karen,
in Coventry
who needs to declutter due to a pending house move.

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[lace] MIchelle Chase Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking

2004-06-20 Thread Dmt11home
The only mention I have heard of this Masters Thesis is from the Tamara 
Duvall e-mail in which she was just leaving for Prague. Perhaps when she gets back 
Tamara could tell us how she obtained the Masters Thesis. Perhaps Michelle 
Chase is on the list and could tell us how to obtain it. 

Personally, I would like to see original research such as this on Tess and 
the Professor's site. Already Brian Lemin is publishing his research there and I 
consider this a very exciting development. (Of course, the creator of the 
original research has to decide where it best suits his or her purposes to 
publish the research and Tess and the Professor have to decide what best suits their 
site.)

Devon

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[lace] Where do ebayer seller get their ideas from?

2004-06-20 Thread Whitham
Jean,

They look like icicles to decorate a christmas tree to me!

Irene,

Surrey, BC Canada
Just thinking of icicles cools me down.

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Re: [lace] Where do ebayer seller get their ideas from?

2004-06-20 Thread Barb ETx
yes, icicles.and if you would like to see more and different uses,
go to www.myglassgarden.com .
NAYY, BarbE

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[lace] ordering CDs

2004-06-20 Thread Tess1929
I will be leaving for OIDFA and France on July 8.   If you are planning to 
order CDs, please allow enough time for me to receive payment from you and get 
them sent out before I leave.   I won't be back home until August 6, so 
although I will certainly be able to receive orders (which will simply sit in the bin 
at the Post Office with all my other mail), I won't be able to send any CDs 
out until after I get back.   Since there are still a little more than two 
weeks left before I leave, I'm just letting you know my schedule.

It is very gratifying to both the Professor and me that so many of you think 
that what we are doing is useful.   I always let him know that you are sending 
him your thanks, and he appreciates it.   As for me, I have learned so much 
and met so many interesting people as a result of this project that I am very 
grateful to you all.

Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [lace] ordering CDs

2004-06-20 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
Could you please include the URL for the page? It is so much easier to go to
the page when seeing the mails than searching in my evergrowing bookmarklist
:-)
Ann-Marie
 http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1
http://www.ettklickforskogen.se/


 I will be leaving for OIDFA and France on July 8.   If you are planning to
 order CDs, please allow enough time for me to receive payment from you and
get
 them sent out before I leave.   I won't be back home until August 6, so
 although I will certainly be able to receive orders (which will simply sit
in the bin
 at the Post Office with all my other mail), I won't be able to send any
CDs
 out until after I get back.   Since there are still a little more than two
 weeks left before I leave, I'm just letting you know my schedule.

 It is very gratifying to both the Professor and me that so many of you
think
 that what we are doing is useful.   I always let him know that you are
sending
 him your thanks, and he appreciates it.   As for me, I have learned so
much
 and met so many interesting people as a result of this project that I am
very
 grateful to you all.

 Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [lace] Grid for a pentagon based pattern

2004-06-20 Thread Steph Peters
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:08:52 +0100, you wrote:

I have a torchon pattern which I would like to redraft.  The original has
some distortion and needs enlarging, so starting from scratch would probably
be easier and safer.

The pattern is a five pointed star, and is worked as 5 segments, like a
pentagon.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can find a grid
suitable for this.  I believe the angle of the diamond the grid would be
based on need to be 72 and 108 degrees.  I've looked through all my lace
books and cannot find anything suitable.

Hi Karen

On my webpage there is free software for download which will enable you to
print dotted grids at any angle you like.
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/dots.htm
--
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those 
who have not got it. - George Bernard Shaw
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http://www.Ositis.com/

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[lace] RE: ebay item

2004-06-20 Thread Helen Bell
Now those look like glass/plastic/ whatever icicle ornaments one can
hang on a Christmas tree.  I see that they've taken it off as it's
incorrectly listed.

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we're finally seeing some sunshine after
4 days of rain, storms and chilly dreary days.

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Re: [lace] Grid for a pentagon based pattern

2004-06-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 20 Jun 2004, at 12:08, Karen wrote:
I have a torchon pattern which I would like to redraft.  The original 
has
some distortion and needs enlarging, so starting from scratch would 
probably
be easier and safer.

The pattern is a five pointed star, and is worked as 5 segments, like a
pentagon.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I can find a 
grid
suitable for this.  I believe the angle of the diamond the grid would 
be
based on need to be 72 and 108 degrees.  I've looked through all my 
lace
books and cannot find anything suitable.

Karen
If you use Windows the easiest way to get a 72 degree grid is to go to 
Steph Peters' website and download her grid generator program.

If you do you will need to print off five copies of the grid, cut them 
up and paste together - using scissors and glue.

If you prefer to computer design it's a case of taking a square section 
of grid, rotating it 45 degrees and then compressing one axis to 0.7265 
percent   (that's tangent of 36 degrees).  Copy the new grid four times 
and then re-arrange all five sections to form a star shape.

I think that what you are describing as a five pointed star is really a 
development of a square, which is a four pointed star.  Take one 
quarter of a square mat - a square section with the mitred angle going 
across diagonally - and rotate it 45 degrees so that the two outside 
edges are to the top and the two inner sides are to the bottom.  
Compress in the X axis so that you have an upright lozenge.  Copy that 
4 times and re-arrange all five sections to make your 5 pointed star.  
To  make the pattern workable you will need to make sure that there is 
a space in the middle and not a pinhole

To try to explain it better to you I'll send you scans of a six pointed 
star pattern developed from a square in a similar way, and also a five 
point star grid which I've just done - to refresh my memory of how to 
do it.

If you have an Acorn/RISC OS computer I could send you !Drawfiles.
Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace] (no subject)

2004-06-20 Thread ButlerV622
I frequently wonder where ebay seller get their ideas on identification
from. Look at this lot:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=373158216
4rd=1

supposedly glass lace bobbins.

These look suscpicously like the icicle-like project that my Webelos aged son 
made for Christmas decorations when he was in Cub Scouts...except they used 
plexiglass instead of real glass. 

Vickie Butler...in sunny Washington state

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[lace] Lace Guild Website update

2004-06-20 Thread Jean Leader
We have just mounted an update to The Lace Guild's web page with 
extracts and a pattern from the April issue of 'Lace'.

The three extracts include pieces by two Arachne list members. First, 
you have a chance to read about and see Miriam Gidron's fan. Then you 
can read an extract of the article Jean wrote about her 'An 
Introduction to Bedfordshire Lace' book. And, once again, the web 
gives you added value: the butterfly illustrated on the web is not 
the one used in the magazine article, but 'Sarah's Butterfly', the 
one she named for our granddaughter, who was one year old last week.

David (and Jean) in Glasgow
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Re: [lace] MIchelle Chase Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking

2004-06-20 Thread Scotlace
Academic these aren't usually published.  In British universities three 
copies are produced - one for the candidate, one for the examiner and one for the 
library where the research has been done.

It is possible to obtain these on inter-library loan but they *must* be read 
in the borrowing library.  I.e. the requester cannot take the thesis home to 
read.

Tess's CD project is possibly the best bet unless the person who wrote it 
wants to publish commercially.

Patricia in Wales
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Re: [lace] Masters Thesis on American Lacemaking

2004-06-20 Thread Barbara Ballantyne
Dear Lacemakers

In times past University Microfilms in Ann Arbor Michigan sold xerox copies
of theses at a reasonable price.  It was an excellent system.

Does this still apply?  And if so are masters theses covered?

Barbara Ballantyne
In sunny Sydney Australia

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 Devon,

   Michelle has done a
  great job of pulling it all together, especially when one considers how
  little *truly American* lace there has been made in the short time US
  has been US.
 
 I think this would be interesting for all list-members especialy those
 who are interested in lace-history. Could this be send on the list
 perhaps?
 Greetings
 Ilske

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[lace-chat] :-) Groaners

2004-06-20 Thread Jean Nathan
Groaners
1. Two vultures board an airplane, each carrying two dead
raccoons. The stewardess looks at them and says, I'm sorry,
gentlemen, only one carrion allowed per passenger.

2. Did you hear that NASA recently put a bunch of Holsteins
into low earth orbit? They called it the herd shot 'round the
world.

3. Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to
Hollywood and became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in
the cotton fields and never amounted to much. The second one,
naturally, became known as the lesser of two weevils.

4. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they
lit a fire in the craft, it sank proving once again that you
can't have your kayak and heat it, too.

5. A three legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West.
He slides up to the bar and announces: I'm looking for the man
who shot my paw.

6. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain
during a root canal? He wanted to transcend dental medication.

7. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and
were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament
victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the
office and asked them to disperse. But why? they asked, as they
moved off. Because, he said, I can't stand chess nuts boasting
in an open foyer.

8. A woman has twins, and gives them up for adoption. One of
them goes to a family in Egypt and is named Amal. The other
goes to a family in Spain; they name him Juan. Years later,
Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon
receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she
also had a picture of Amal. Her husband responds, They're twins!
If you've seen Juan, you've seen Amal.

9. These friars were behind on their belfry payments, so
they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since
everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival
florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked
the good fathers to close down, but they would not. He went back
and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the rival
florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug
in town to persuade them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and
trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up
shop. Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that: Hugh, and
only Hugh, can prevent florist friars.

10. And finally, There was a man who sent ten different puns
to friends, in the hope that at least one of the puns would make
them laugh. Unfortunately, no pun in ten did.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Groaners

2004-06-20 Thread dominique
help!  i didn't get nr 2 and 5 ... loved the others but nr 6 is my favorite 
. that's what i do every tuesday at my dentist's :  transcend dental 
medication . lol

dominique from Paris .

Jean Nathan a décidé d' écrire à  Ò[lace-chat] :-)  GroanersÓ.
[2004/06/20 09:20]

 Groaners
 1. Two vultures board an airplane, each carrying two dead
 raccoons. The stewardess looks at them and says, I'm sorry,
 gentlemen, only one carrion allowed per passenger.
 
 2. Did you hear that NASA recently put a bunch of Holsteins
 into low earth orbit? They called it the herd shot 'round the
 world.
 
 3. Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to
 Hollywood and became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in
 the cotton fields and never amounted to much. The second one,
 naturally, became known as the lesser of two weevils.
 
 4. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they
 lit a fire in the craft, it sank proving once again that you
 can't have your kayak and heat it, too.
 
 5. A three legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West.
 He slides up to the bar and announces: I'm looking for the man
 who shot my paw.
 
 6. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain
 during a root canal? He wanted to transcend dental medication.
 
 7. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and
 were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament
 victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the
 office and asked them to disperse. But why? they asked, as they
 moved off. Because, he said, I can't stand chess nuts boasting
 in an open foyer.
 
 8. A woman has twins, and gives them up for adoption. One of
 them goes to a family in Egypt and is named Amal. The other
 goes to a family in Spain; they name him Juan. Years later,
 Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon
 receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she
 also had a picture of Amal. Her husband responds, They're twins!
 If you've seen Juan, you've seen Amal.
 
 9. These friars were behind on their belfry payments, so
 they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since
 everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival
 florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked
 the good fathers to close down, but they would not. He went back
 and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the rival
 florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug
 in town to persuade them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and
 trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up
 shop. Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that: Hugh, and
 only Hugh, can prevent florist friars.
 
 10. And finally, There was a man who sent ten different puns
 to friends, in the hope that at least one of the puns would make
 them laugh. Unfortunately, no pun in ten did.
 
 Jean in Poole
 
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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Groaners

2004-06-20 Thread Patty Dowden
At 01:05 PM 6/20/2004, you wrote:
help!  i didn't get nr 2 and 5 ... loved the others but nr 6 is my favorite
. that's what i do every tuesday at my dentist's :  transcend dental
medication . lol
dominique from Paris .
Jean Nathan wrote:
 2. Did you hear that NASA recently put a bunch of Holsteins
 into low earth orbit? They called it the herd shot 'round the
 world.

 5. A three legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West.
 He slides up to the bar and announces: I'm looking for the man
 who shot my paw.

HI Dominique,
I can see where these two would lose something in translation.
#2:  Holsteins are a breed of cattle and a group of cattle is a herd.
The pun comes from a famous quote about the first battle in the American 
Revolution.  The shot heard round the world.
So cows in space are The herd shot round the world.

#5:  A dog's foot is called a paw.  This dog is missing a paw.  In the old 
West of cowboys and outlaws, fathers were often called Pa (short for Papa).
A very stereotypical scene in a movie about the old West would have 
stranger come into the saloon, (the local gathering place) and ask about 
someone he was looking for.  So this dog that is missing a leg is looking 
for the man who shot my paw.

Patty Dowden
Wondering how many cultural assumptions I made in these explanations! 

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Re: [lace-chat] :-) Groaners

2004-06-20 Thread Scotlace
Herd shot round the world  is a parody of shot heard round the world 
referring to the first shot at Concord, Massachussetts, in the American War of 
Independence.

Paw is another term for the male parent - like pa, da, daddy, dad etc.

Patricia in Wales
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