RE: [lace] lace in London

2004-10-04 Thread Barbara George
Please reply to the list - I will be in London for a week in December
too.
I'm also looking for Egyptian Cotton thread, as fine as possible. Any
ideas welcome.

Thanks

Barbara
Cape Town, South Africa

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Re: [lace] RE:cone shaped pillows

2004-10-04 Thread Alice Howell
At 03:33 PM 10/3/2004, you wrote:
  I seem to recall that corners
can be made on cone shaped rollers.  ...
Not sure how it works for fans though.
Yes, cone rollers allow square hanky edgings to be done on a roller.  I 
have to admit that I don't remember reading about fans being done on one, 
but why not?

If you take a fan pattern and roll it up, keeping the top and bottom edges 
lined up, you get a cone.  If you make a roller to fit that cone shape, 
then it should be possible to make the fan lace on the roller if it is a 
straight lace type of lace.  It wouldn't work for Honiton, tape laces, or 
perhaps Beds, but Torchon or Point Ground laces should do fine.

H..I can see another project to go on my to do list.
Alice in Oregon -- with two more days of good weather before the next rain 
is supposed to fall.

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Re: [lace] Fan pillows

2004-10-04 Thread Annette Gill
The fan I'm making at the moment is fairly small, and fits across the 
flattish top of an 18 cookie pillow.  I can't get a pillow much larger 
than that, because it would strain my shoulders to reach it (I have 
short arms and injured shoulders!).   The Kleinhout pillow has two 
pie-shaped movable suggestions, as you suggest,  which would be ideal, 
but I suppose I'm thinking about flat, pie-shaped sections in the centre 
of a cookie pillow (with sloping sides).

A cone-shaped roller sounds intriguing, but I can't work out how you 
would make one, or how it would fit into an existing roller pillow.  I 
don't suppose any supplier makes such a thing?

Regards,
Annette, London
PS I heard about Mt St Helens on the news - I hope if it does erupt it 
isn't too serious. Are you very near?

Alice Howell wrote:
This brought two thoughts to my mind.  First -- the recent discussion 
on patterns lifting from the pillow.  One reason was the conflict of 
putting a flat pattern on a curved pillow.  A fan is a flat item.  For 
the lace to fit best, it seems like it should be made flat.

While I haven't (yet) made a fan (that class is coming next spring), I 
would think that the pattern would need to be worked on a flat surface 
as big as the fan.  The bobbin area could be shaped to suit the 
bobbins and lacemaker.  A small fan would fit easily on a cookie 
pillow.  A larger fan may need a special pillow design.  The cookie 
with the two or more pie-shaped movable sections is one solution.

The second area of thought was the cone shaped roller.  Curved items 
can be made on a cone that has been fitted to the shape of the 
pattern.  The cone can be inserted into a roller pillow, or a cut out 
section of a cookie pillow.  The working surface stays at the optimum 
center of the pillow, and the bobbin surface would stay consistent.

A used roller pillow I acquired had a cone roller with it that the 
previous lacemaker had devised.

If a person plans to make only one fan, a usable pillow could be 
constructed out of builders foam.  It doesn't last for extensive use, 
but works well for a short time.

When you all figure it out, let me know.  I'll have to have a fan 
pillow next spring.
G

Alice in Oregon -- where we are waiting for the second eruption of Mt 
St Helens in a week.  They think the next one will be bigger than last 
week.


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[lace] Re: Fan Pillows

2004-10-04 Thread Annette Gill
Rather than having a pillow especially for fans I made an extension for my
22 inch round pillow.
 

That sounds like a good idea.  I can't make that kind of thing myself, 
but I might be able to find someone who can.

Thanks!
Annette, London
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[lace] Re: Fan Pillows

2004-10-04 Thread Annette Gill
 From what I've heard, the Newnham pillows were superb - it's a shame
they're not still available. The disc pillow you mention sounds a bit
like the collar pillow that Central Scotland Lace Supplies do.  They also
have a fan pillow that sounds like the Newnham one.  I've already been
referred to Rosemarie Robertson, so I'll contact her and see what she
has.  If the pillow has a domed apron, it might be what I'm looking for.

Thanks,
Annette, London

From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [lace] Fan pillows

I don't know if anyone still makes them but at one time Karl Newnham
(who ceased trading many years ago, but was the Rolls Royce of pillow
makers) used to make a fan pillow which was shaped like a quarter of a
circle and worked like a block pillow in that it had segments that were
moved along as the work progressed. He also used to make disc
pillows. which were a flat disc of high density styrene/ethafoam with a
collar shaped apron around it. The disc rotates as the work progresses
and the bobbins rest on the apron area. Mine is only 12 inches disc
diameter, but he made them up to about 18 inch diameter. I think
Rosemarie Robertson of Bobbins ad Pillows makes a similar pillow, but
she doesn't have a web site and my price list of hers is four years out
of date!

I have used my disc pillow to make a small fan, but for the large fan
that I made, for Marie's wedding, I used a 24 inch cookie pillow./

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[lace] Re: Fan Pillows

2004-10-04 Thread Annette Gill
I bought an oval pillow from the lace suppliers in Scotland - the name
is
something like Central Scotland Lace Suppliers.  It's the equivalent of a
24
inch round pillow, but with two chunks chopped off so that it has
parallel
straight sides.  The advantage of this shape is that it's easier to reach
all of the pillow, especially the centre, than a circular one.  The shape
almost matches a fan so would be good for that.  However I'm not sure
that
this will meet your domed requirements, it is almost flat. 
I find it interesting that you want a domed pillow for Bruges bobbins.
When
I use Midlands bobbins I like a domed pillow, or use a flat pillow on the
diagonal.   When I use Binche bobbins that can roll, I prefer my pillow
to
be as close to horizontal as I can get it, so that the bobbins have no
gradient to roll along when I put them down.

I'd forgotten about CSLS.  I now see they actually have a fan pillow,
though it looks a bit flat.  The reason I don't like flat pillows is that
I don't like working with the pillow horizontal (which I have to do with
Continental bobbins).  I know that's what they do in Europe, but it's the
lack of tension on the bobbins that bothers me - I've got used to the
weight of the bobbins hanging down providing tension.  Maybe I should
just try and get used to working flat.

Regards,
Annette, London

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Re: [lace] Australian Lace Guild Conference

2004-10-04 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 04/10/2004 03:18:51 GMT Standard Time, 
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 On Saturday, there was an exhibition of lace made by members of the Guild -
 including a chance for us to see the piece Medusa's head which won the 
 John
 Bull trophy.   
 

I don't think so!!  The John Bull Trophy was made by Jill Harward with her 
piece called The Hydra.

There is a piece called Medusa's Ghost which won the Northumbria Lacemakers 
Trophy and was made by the Australian Lace Guild South Australia Branch and I 
guess this is the piece you mean.

Jacquie

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[lace] Ooops. John Bull Tropy revisited!

2004-10-04 Thread Laceandbits
Of course I meant to say The John Bull Trophy was *won* by Jill Harward with 
her piece called The Hydra, not made by.

Jacquie

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Re: [lace] lace in London

2004-10-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 4 Oct 2004, at 08:05, Barbara George wrote:
Please reply to the list - I will be in London for a week in December
too.
I'm also looking for Egyptian Cotton thread, as fine as possible. Any
ideas welcome.
There's very little of anything lace related in central London, other 
than the VA museum, and lace days mostly stop during December 
/January.

For Fine Egyptian thread I'd suggest mail order.  SMP have 170/2 as the 
finest, and Tim Parker has 170/2, 180/2 and 185/2.

Brenda
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
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[lace] Re: Lace in London

2004-10-04 Thread Annette Gill
Not in London, but easily accessible...  The weekend of December 4/5th 
is the country's largest lace fair, at the National Exhibition Centre in 
Birmingham.  You can get to Birmingham in 90 minutes by train from 
London Euston, and the NEC has its own station.

Regards,
Annette
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Re: [lace] demo table

2004-10-04 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 10/3/04 5:45:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 I might have to cover the metal legs with a cloth if I use it at the 
 Pioneer Days events where we are supposed to have everything in period.  

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Dear Janice and other demonstrators,

My table has a very nice cover that might work for you.  It is 
cranberry-colored broadcloth, and I always put a smaller lace overlay on top that just 
reaches down a few inches.  This component covers any sewing glitches (puckers at 
corners?) along the top of the underskirt.  For this, I purchased machine lace 
by the yard, cut it to the size wanted, and then fancy-cut around the solid 
parts of the lace motifs to make it look sort of scalloped.  It's about as 
light-weight as anything you can get, and does not wrinkle as some other fabrics 
might.  Gives you an example of machine lace to compare to the really delicious 
and interesting lace on your pillow - and from a distance it attracts 
attention and brings people to you.  Cranberry is our color for all our display tables 
and covered foamcore panels, so as to present a unified appearance. If your 
lace club has a color scheme, this would be a good way to go.  You may demo at 
various places, but when you get together with the group at a club demo event, 
it is nice.

The cranberry broadcloth cover is fitted.  It covers the top surface plus a 
seam allowance, and then a separate long piece is sewn around three sides of 
the top piece - to make a skirt that almost reaches the floor.  This piece 
actually wraps to the fourth side about 2 at the top on each side where you put 
your knees.  You could add corner pleats or gathering, but that makes more to 
carry, and with a light overlay of lace it is not necessary.  If you let the 
selvage of the fabric be at the bottom, there will be no heavy hem.  This is as 
spare as I could design it to fold and carry.  

An advantage is there is no fabric flowing out from the corners for people to 
step on, as there would be if you just used a rectangle of fabric.  Also, 
with this cover there is coverage for a tote bag, purse, lunch, etc. under the 
table.  When you are wearing summer shorts or skirts, it is a classy modesty 
panel, covering knees and anything you really do not want to display of yourself 
below the table.  (Long sightlines -- from across the room -- can be quite 
amusing, rather than attractive.)

This cover was described on Arachne several years ago, but you might not have 
been a member then, Janice.

Another thing I do is carry the IOLI Directory - to look up a lace club for 
anyone from away who happens by -- if they are really interested in pursuing 
lacemaking.  When you are talking with them, you can judge whether to give 
them the name of a lace club near them.  And, you can give them the IOLI web 
address, if they are computer users.  You won't be compromising an individual's 
privacy, but the interested party will be surprised that there actually is a 
national lace organization - as proved by the fact you have such a directory with 
you.

Kind regards,

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] Translations

2004-10-04 Thread Nicole Gauthier
Dear Lacemakers,
Recently, Jeri and other lacemakers wrote about lace books not being 
translated in english. I think some of you will be happy to learn that 
one of our friends on Arachne, Magda who has written a dissertation on 
Mechlin Lace, Lace Lappets from the 18th Century while doing her 
teacher's course in the Kantcentrum in Bruges, has done an english 
translation of her book. The book is very informative on the subject 
and the pictures and enlargements are beautiful. Not much has been 
written on that lace and it is a good opportunity to learn more. Magda 
can certainly give you the information on how to get her book.

Nicole Gauthier in Kirkland, Qc
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Re: [lace] Australian Lace Guild Conference

2004-10-04 Thread Ruth Budge
I stand corrected - what I thought I saw at the exhibition was the silver tray
awarded to the South Australian group which had John Bull Trophy engraved on
it.  However, I do acknowledge that the article in Australian Lace clearly
says Winner of the Northumbria Lacemakers Trophy and a Medal of Excellence.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 04/10/2004 03:18:51 GMT Standard
Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Saturday, there was an exhibition of lace made by members of the Guild -
 including a chance for us to see the piece Medusa's head which won the 
 John
 Bull trophy. 
 

I don't think so!! The John Bull Trophy was made by Jill Harward with her 
piece called The Hydra.

There is a piece called Medusa's Ghost which won the Northumbria Lacemakers 
Trophy and was made by the Australian Lace Guild South Australia Branch and I 
guess this is the piece you mean.

Jacquie

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Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com

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Re: [lace] Cone Pillow - picture

2004-10-04 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
I made one for myself for when I get better at this lace making stuff, I 
figure someday I may need it so I made one while I had the supplies.

Lynn :)
wildgun004smate

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Subject: [lace] Cone Pillow - picture


 Dear Lacemakers,

 There are newbies on the list who may never have seen a cone pillow.  Mine 
 is
 pictured at the following address:

 www.lacefairy.com/
 

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[lace] Egyptian cotton

2004-10-04 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
If you are looking for mail order threads, - Lace Inspirations in Belmont, 
Geelong (near Melbourne) has 160/2 and 170/2 .  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also torchon House, in Adelaide has the 170/2  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Your currency exchange may be better against the Aussie $ than the English £ 
!!

Usual Disclaimers - just a satisfied customer!.
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] Fw: [AGENT_ORANGE_VETERANS] A poem that gives you goose bumps!

2004-10-04 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
A poem that gives you goose bumps! 


A drunk man in an Oldsmobile

They said had run the light

That caused the six-car pileup

On 109 that night.

When broken bodies lay about

And blood was everywhere,

The sirens screamed out eulogies,

For death was in the air.

A mother, trapped inside her car,

Was heard above the noise;

Her plaintive plea near split the air:

Oh, God, please spare my boys!

She fought to loose her pinned hands;

She struggled to get free,

But mangled metal held her fast

In grim captivity.

Her frightened eyes then focused

On where the back seat once had been,

But all she saw was broken glass and

Two children's seats crushed in.

Her twins were nowhere to be seen;

She did not hear them cry,

And then she prayed they'd been thrown free,

Oh, God, don't let them die!

Then firemen came and cut her loose,

But when they searched the back,

They found therein no little boys,

But the seat belts were intact.

They thought the woman had gone mad

And was traveling alone,

But when they turned to question her,

They discovered she was gone.

Policemen saw her running wild

And screaming above the noise

In beseeching supplication,

Please help me find my boys!

They're four years old and wear blue shirts;

Their jeans are blue to match.

One cop spoke up, They're in my car,

And they don't have a scratch.

They said their daddy put them there

And gave them each a cone,

Then told them both to wait for Mom

To come and take them home.

I've searched the area high and low,

But I can't find their dad.

He must have fled the scene,

I guess, and that is very bad.

The mother hugged the twins and said,

While wiping at a tear,

He could not flee the scene, you see,

For he's been dead a year.

The cop just looked confused and asked,

Now, how can that be true?

The boys said, Mommy, Daddy came

and left a kiss for you.

He told us not to worry

And that you would be all right,

And then he put us in this car with

The pretty, flashing light.

We wanted him to stay with us,

Because we miss him so,

But Mommy, he just hugged us tight

And said he had to go.

He said someday we'd understand

And told us not to fuss,

And he said to tell you, Mommy,

He's watching over us.

The mother knew without a doubt

That what they spoke was true,

For she recalled their dad's last words,

I will watch over you.

The firemen's notes could not explain

The twisted, mangled car,

And how the three of them escaped

Without a single scar.

But on the cop's report was scribed,

In print so very fine, An angel walked

the beat tonight on Highway 109.


   

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[lace-chat] The Triplets of Belleville

2004-10-04 Thread Janice Blair
My daughter recommended this movie to us and when it came out as a DVD I bought it for 
DH who is an avid cyclist.  It's quite odd but very amusing.  Farenheit 9/11 is due 
out about now on DVD so as we did not get to the cinema I might fork out the money for 
it.  It costs the two of us to go to the cinema about the same as buying the DVD, we 
just have to be a little more patient and wait for the release of the movie on 
plastic, which these days seems to come even more quickly than it used to.
Janice
 
P.S.  Tamara, what class are you taking at Ithaca?


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace-chat] Re: The Triplets of Belleville

2004-10-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Oct 4, 2004, at 19:26, Janice Blair wrote:
My daughter recommended this movie to us and when it came out as a DVD 
I bought it for DH
I'm planning to whine that one out of DH as a b-day present :)
P.S.  Tamara, what class are you taking at Ithaca?
Er g The Belleville Baby... That is, Cathy's revolutionary 
Rosalibre. She says the class notes - a book of 68 pages, 15 
patterns, 122 illustrations (15 of them in colour) - has gone to the 
printers' today. It's as well that I'll be frantically busy for the 
next couple of days (am leaving Lextropolis on Thursday, for Pittsburgh 
and an overnight. Robin Panza and I are driving to Ithaca the following 
day), or else I don't think I could contain myself, I'm that excited!
---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.

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[lace-chat] New IOLI Bulletin

2004-10-04 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders,
Got my La Encajera #23 (last paid-for issue) on... Friday? Saturday? 
and, before I had the time to read it, today's mail brought the IOLI 
Bulletin. It's nice and fat (extra pages), so as to accomodate the 
Convention news, without losing lace content.

The competition entries (Pennslvania Dutch Hex Signs) are sensational! 
I was relieved to see that most of them are in NL - I can drool over 
them in peace, without being tempted to reproduce them (always a 
problem with BL pieces, since I never seem to have the time for 
anything than my own stuff) g

Haven't had the time to do more than leaf through the issue, so won't 
spoil everyone else's pleasure, by revealing any more secrets. But, 
naturally, I *did* check my own contribution; that comes even before 
leafing through :) Those of you who subscribe, please note - when the 
Bulletin reaches you - the *pricking* is positioned correctly, with the 
fleur-de-lys on top; it's the *photos* of the lace which are 
upside-down...

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Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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