Re: [lace] Needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
I don't do needlelace, but my friend used a pressing ham - those hard packed 
ham-shaped things that all  dressmakers have in our sewing rooms.  

Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

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[lace] Re: Favourite pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 26, 2005, at 21:41, Alice Howell wrote:
At 08:18 PM 1/25/2005, you wrote:
What is your pillow of choice and where did you come up with it?

This may seem like a simple question but it doesn't have a simple 
answer.

There is no way I could have ONE pillow of choice.
I'm a conservative when it comes to lacemaking (spending money or time 
is where I'm on speaking terms with "conservative" ); pillows, 
bobbins, threads, pins... I only add as "the last resort" (and, no, I'm 
talking about a beach kind of "resort" ). For the first few years of 
my lacemaking career I only *had* one pillow; when it became too small 
(within the first 6 months), I remade it into a bigger one. But now (16 
yrs later) I'm like Alice - I have more than one favourite...

Please bear in mind that I'm "particular"... I like my pillows *big* 
(possibly, to compensate for the fact that *I* am small ). And I 
like for my pillows to have a natural fill; many people say they don't 
hear the "squeak" of pins inserted into plastic, but it sets my teeth 
on edge. Repeat by several hundred times, and I'm a wreck  And, 
unlike many people on this list, I do not go demonstrating (don't need 
a special pillow for an easy, always on-going, project), and I do not 
have a group with regular meetings (so the issue of transport hardly 
ever surfaces). Given the above "caveats"...

My two "mostest favourite" pillows are:
1) a wool-"compound" filled, 24" diameter cookie, which I bought from 
someone (a man, can't remember the name, can't remember where he was 
from. All I know is he's not making them anymore) at the Bethesda IOLI 
Convention ('99?). Perfect for everything which needs frequent turning 
around in small increments - Milanese, Russian, wire, and now Rosa 
Libre.

2) a wool-"compound" filled, 24" square, all-block, which I got from 
Gabriele Kister-Schuler (from Germany) in '01, in Tonder (Denmark). 
It's perfect for just about everything else - yardage, corners... I 
have enough blocks for it to fill the frame twice over (with some 
spare, due to different arrangement of blocks I might need at any 
time), and am getting a few more in time for the Denver-do.

Those two are what I use all the time. It keeps my priorities clear; I 
fish or CUT bait, and I don't need more than a 100-150 pairs of 
bobbins.

``
Everything else is self-indulgence and mostly a mistake, at least the 
way I work, which is one project at a time, most of the time... :)

I don't like my "Swiss" - whined out of DH one Christmas (too expensive 
for me to buy). It's a lovely pillow, craft-wise... Working blocks down 
the middle, bobbin-resting, slanting surface on the sides, slanting 
towards the worker as well as sideways (both slants aid proper 
tensioning), with storage drawers in the frame.

But the 2 blocks add up to slightly less than 13" of working space; add 
a 4-6" "leash" on the bobbins, add 4" of bobbin length itself, and 
you're moving up your blocks every few rows, which is annoying. I added 
a - removable - "T-extension"... Literally a "T", big enough to house a 
full block in the centre and with its own sloping sides (though I was 
unable to match the original ones), which extended my working space by 
6.33", and made the pillow acceptable for size. But there was nothing I 
could do about the "squeaky" working blocks, so the pillow has been 
"resting" for over 4 yrs :)

After years of saying that I didn't even want to *think* about a roller 
pillow, I now have two - a home made, and a Toustou - and have doubts 
about both.

While I've found that I like working on a roller much better than I'd 
thought possible (the natural tensioning is terrific, and the 
management of "resting bobbins" much easier than envisioned), neither 
pillow is perfect. In the home made one, the roller (all wool) and its 
controlling device (a wooden wedge, jammed between the roller's wooden 
side and the box holding the roller) are *most excellent*. I spent 
*weeks* tightening the roller "just so", and it's both smooth (as 
regards inserting pins) and hard (as regards holding pins in place). 
And the wedge-control allows - easily - for *tiny* adjustments, 
including rolling back (if one wants to pursue a diagonal angle to its 
logical conclusion, and then go all the way back and start again). But 
the bobbin-resting area ("apron") was filled with compressed soft foam, 
and it *drums* like heavy rain on a tin roof... Drives me batty, and I 
don't use that pillow often.

But, at least, it was cheap, being home made and using scrap wood 
(Clay's DH put all the wood stuff together, for free) and scrap wool...

The Toustou pillow has a roller which is as good as mine - hard as a 
rock, but smooth as butter - and whatever's been used for the "apron" 
is also excellent; the whole thing is as quiet as a millionaire's 
Rolls-Royce :) But the roller is controlled by a gear system. Lovely to 
look at - brass - and, doubtless, difficult to make and to synchr

[lace] Suprise

2005-01-27 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
Dear Spiders,

I just wanted to share with you, my son (bless his heart) has bought me a 
new book, The Technique of Bobbin Lace by Pamela Nottingham, I have been 
looking through it and I love it, I can't wait to learn more and actually 
try and do all this stuff.  Kids sure can surprise you once in awhile.  I 
just love learning to make lace.

Bye-Bye for now,

Lynn
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[lace] Re: CT/KD

2005-01-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jan 27, 2005, at 3:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie) wrote:
This is precisely what "Cook and Stott" did in their Bucks Point 
pattern
books, [...]
And others as well (Stott's  "The Bobbin Lace Manual", for example, 
which is a beginner's book).

There was a lot of grouching at the time [...]
Anyway, the diagrams are easy to work from and the twists are easy to 
follow.
Indeed, they were... *Once* it finally penetrated through my thick 
skull that, although the colour is red and the term is "whole stitch", 
it's not the same red and the same "whole stitch" as in the Belgian 
Colour Code. Until then, when I saw a red line with a cross-hatch, I 
interpreted it as CTCT+T, and then wondered why my lace didn't look as 
the lace in the picture... :)

For people who were unfamiliar with the BCC, the introduction of colour 
for different stitches in the Cook and Stott books must have been like 
manna from heaven. But, for those who'd had a taste of BCC (and a 
struggle learning which colour meant what ), it was just confusing, 
at least at first. Hence the grouching.

I suppose, early on, when those books were first written, nobody much 
expected them to escape the confines of UK. Or for the UK lacemakers to 
start going abroad for workshops. The *idea* of streamlining the 
diagrams and representing 3 stitches with just 2 colours is excellent 
(IMO, anyway). The colour choices, OTOH, didn't allow for globalization 
catching up with lacemakers... :)

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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace] lace identification

2005-01-27 Thread
After years of going into one of our local shops, which sells victoriana,
and harping at the owner about mislabelling her lace, the owner has asked me
to come and actually identify the stuff. (called putting my money where my
mouth is, calling my bluff etc. )  That shouldn't be too much of a problem
really except for one type of little doily of which she seems to get quite a
few.  The doilies are very nicely made, nothing like the chinese variety.
The style is Cluny but one thing puzzles me.  The pattern is basically big
scallop motifs, little scallops around the edge, plaits, and a fan of 6
leaves attached to the footside, or centre in this case.. all making the one
big scallop shape.  It's a fairly common design anyway.  What's odd about it
is that the fans of leaves are hand sewn separately onto the footside.  The
plaits are worked in normally though.  Has anyone seen this before?  Sharon
on dull but warm for this time of year Vancouver Island



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[lace] Re:needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread JMMAcademy
Hi  I do have 2 needle lace pillows and I prefer to use the.  The pillow 
helps me keep the tension the same. One of my pillows is smaller  so easier 
to 
carry. Hannah 

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[lace] Rachel Kay-Shuttleworth Collection

2005-01-27 Thread Dianne Derbyshire
Hi Everyone

Sorry to be so long in replying to Jeri’s enquiry about the Rachel B 
Kay-Shuttleworth book. They have some books. The main problem is trying to find 
out how you can pay. I have not got all the details yet, but I have not 
forgotten. 

The discussion about cloth stitch, half stitch etc - 

I use the term cloth stitch but I know that some people use the term whole 
stitch to mean the same thing.

When I have been writing descriptions of lace for cataloguing the lace of the 
Rachel Kay-Shuttleworth collection and so many terms are use to describe the 
same thing – tally = Barley corns, Coxcombs, Cutworks, Grains, Leadworks, Leaf, 
Grains, Wheat-ear, etc. Which term should I use? Some are quite local terms 
used in a small area. I decided to use the name tally and sometimes the local 
name in brackets. But if someone came to research a certain term they may not 
necessarily find what they are looking for. So I decided to make a glossary of 
terms which hopefully may help someone in the future with their research. I am 
going through my books looking for the meanings but the list grows! Where 
should I stop?

Something some of you may find of interest is a large card, which will have to 
be dismantled because it isn’t acid free. The pieces of lace are sewn onto 
velvet, which is sewn onto the card. Its title is ‘Arab, Palestinian and Cyprus 
Lace’. I have not seen any ‘Arab Lace’ before. Rachel’s note says ‘ Probably 
the oldest type of lace, but until recently unknown, being made in the harem 
for home use. There are eight pieces from Bethlehem, some from Tunis, Armenia, 
Persia and Cyprus. They look like netting with a fine thread. There are dates 
on some they seem to have been made in the 1920s. It says ‘Sheet 1’ so maybe I 
will find some more, sometime in the future. 

The stitches look to be knotted. There are some circular mats, edgings and 
insertions. Two little pieces ‘look like Torchon in design but worked with the 
old Arab stitch.’

The pieces from Tunis, all 1920, say ‘all the very old traditional designs’.

One of the motifs looks like needlelace some of the areas in the design like 
Bebila. 

Hope this is of interest.

Dianne Derbyshire   
  City of Preston


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[lace] needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Dmt11home
Irma Osterman had us buy a tailor's ham to use as a needle lace  pillow.
Devon

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Re: [lace] needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Claire Allen
Another method that I have heard of for making a needlelace pillow is 
to use an empty baby milk tin. you can pad it and cover it with a snug 
drawstring bag which you can have in such a way that you can still open 
the milk tin and store your threads etc inside it when you are not 
working on your lace.

Claire
Kent,UK
Miserable and chilly today but not as cold as it has been.
On 27 Jan 2005, at 2:20 pm, Maureen Harvey wrote:
Hallo Jen and all spiders,
My lace tutor taught us how to make a small pillow for needle lace 
that I
have found very useful although my first love is BL.  Find a  piece of 
rigid
tube ( I got a piece  from the carpet shop it is the centre that the 
carpets
are rolled onto)  mine was 3inches across cut to 9inches long.  
lightly pad
it with felt or something of that thickness and cover with a material
similar to what you would cover a bobbin lace pillow i.e. lint free. 
Make it
slightly longer than the roll so that you can tuck the ends into the 
roll to
get them out of the way.
You can then hold your work on it with a  piece of elastic both ends, 
this
makes a comfortable small pillow that sits on your lap or can be held 
in the
hand whichever you find more comfortable for working.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
Just managed to prick out Bridget Cooks small fan pattern and wound 
bobbins
in readiness for when the cast comes off my arm next Tuesday.. Yippee.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: [lace] needlelace pillows

Hi Spiders,
I'm curious as to whether many needlelace makers on the list use 
pillows
or not. The Valerie Grimwood book I have suggests using a pillow,
however to date I haven't used one. Too lazy to make one, don't feel
like buying one as yet.

What have benn your experiences pillow vs no pillow?
Thanks,
Jen in (warm and sultry) Melbourne
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Re: [lace] needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Maureen Harvey
Hallo Jen and all spiders,
My lace tutor taught us how to make a small pillow for needle lace that I
have found very useful although my first love is BL.  Find a  piece of rigid
tube ( I got a piece  from the carpet shop it is the centre that the carpets
are rolled onto)  mine was 3inches across cut to 9inches long.  lightly pad
it with felt or something of that thickness and cover with a material
similar to what you would cover a bobbin lace pillow i.e. lint free. Make it
slightly longer than the roll so that you can tuck the ends into the roll to
get them out of the way.
You can then hold your work on it with a  piece of elastic both ends, this
makes a comfortable small pillow that sits on your lap or can be held in the
hand whichever you find more comfortable for working.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
Just managed to prick out Bridget Cooks small fan pattern and wound bobbins
in readiness for when the cast comes off my arm next Tuesday.. Yippee.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: [lace] needlelace pillows


> Hi Spiders,
>
> I'm curious as to whether many needlelace makers on the list use pillows
> or not. The Valerie Grimwood book I have suggests using a pillow,
> however to date I haven't used one. Too lazy to make one, don't feel
> like buying one as yet.
>
> What have benn your experiences pillow vs no pillow?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jen in (warm and sultry) Melbourne
>
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[lace] Re: Belgian Colour Code

2005-01-27 Thread Mary L. Tod
At 1:08 PM +0100 1/27/05, Ilske Thomsen wrote:
Torchon ground  =  in engl ?  ctt pin ctt  brown
Ilske, I recognize this stitch as Honeycomb ground in Bucks Point.
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[lace] Re: Belgian Colour Code

2005-01-27 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hallo Lacefriends,
After the Belgian Colour Code
half stitchgreen
linene stichviolett
double stitch  red
only one thread as in thread diagramms  yellow
picot if they are only one thread  yellow
picot with two threadsblue
gimp very thick line or blue
plaits   blue
Torchon ground   ct pin ct green
Torchon ground  =  Dieppe stitch ct pin cttorange
Torchon ground  =  Brussel stitch ctct pin ctct   red
Torchon ground  =  in engl ?  ctt pin ctt  brown
Greetings
Ilske
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[lace] Re: winter (not lace)

2005-01-27 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Lacefriends,
I saw some pictures from the US where whole houses are totally covered 
with ice, awful. Hope nobody from the list is involved.
I didn't hear anything from Lorelei or Jeri. Hope everybody is ok.
Here in Europe winter plays crazy too. On Mallorca where people like to 
fly for the flowery almond trees at january ( i was there myself years 
ago, it is beautiful) the strand are covered with snow. A thing nearly 
never happened.
We have a litle snow since last night but no strong cold.
Greetings

Ilske
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Re: [lace] double/half (retry)

2005-01-27 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
This makes sense for me.
Carolina, from a frozen Barcelona. (Spain)
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Apartments for rent on Spanish Coast
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J. Falkink wrote:
In Dutch we also have name variants for the same stitches. But it are
consistent and logical sets that are never mixed.
set 1: netslag (ct/tc) - dubbele netslag (ctct/tctc)
set 2: halve slag (ct/tc) - hele slag (ctct/tctc)
In both sets linenslag for ctc
halve = half
hele=whole
dubbele=double
net=net
slag=stitch
 

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Re: [lace] Re: CT/KD

2005-01-27 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 27/01/2005 00:30:40 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Jo, what Alice said is precisely what I meant: 2 colours, instead of 3. 
> That is, green as usual for half stitch (with an extra cross-hatch for 
> the honeycomb. Or "roseground" in Denmark). But a *single colour* 
> (purple, red, I don't care which) *for both* the cloth (linen) and the 
> whole (double) stitch. The only difference being an extra cross-hatch 
> on the cloth stitch colour, to denote the whole stitch.
> 

This is precisely what "Cook and Stott" did in their Bucks Point pattern 
books, but for some reason they chose blue for the half stitch and red for 
cloth/whole stitch.  There was a lot of grouching at the time (which was just 
about 
when English lacemakers were becoming aware of these fancy, coloured, 
continental diagrams) because they'd used the colours for different stitches.  

Now it's possible they felt there would be a clearer difference between red 
and blue than green and blue which is what the "international colours" would 
give, but I would have thought that a mauvish blue would give a good contrast 
to 
green.  All the other notations (gimps, twists etc) are in black; some heavy, 
some fine.

Anyway, the diagrams are easy to work from and the twists are easy to follow.

Jacquie   

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Re: [lace] needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread beth
Hi,Jen
I have a needlelace pillow, but I never use it. I prefer holding the lace in 
my hand while I work, and it's much easier to carry around that way (useful 
for taking to meetings when a bobbin lace pillow is too awkward to manage on 
public transport). The biggest piece I've done without a pillow was about 12 
inches tall by 6 inches wide (I think - I can't be bothered to take it down 
off the wall and measure it), and as far as I can remember I didn't have too 
much trouble holding it. 
Could you borrow a pillow to try, to see whether it suits you to work that 
way?
Beth
in a damp, grey Cheshire, England

Jennifer wrote:
> I'm curious as to whether many needlelace makers on the list use pillows
> or not. 
> What have benn your experiences pillow vs no pillow?

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[lace] Needlelace pillows

2005-01-27 Thread Jean Nathan
One of or lace group went to a needlelace class and was told to take a full
kitchen roll to use as a pillow. A cheap way to decide if you want to use
one or not.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] double/half (retry)

2005-01-27 Thread J. Falkink
Funny how my messages do not always reach the digest.
Yesterday I wrote two, with only one or two minutes interval. Both are in
the archive, but
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg10234.html didn't appear
in the digest. So here it is again:


In Dutch we also have name variants for the same stitches. But it are
consistent and logical sets that are never mixed.
set 1: netslag (ct/tc) - dubbele netslag (ctct/tctc)
set 2: halve slag (ct/tc) - hele slag (ctct/tctc)
In both sets linenslag for ctc

halve = half
hele=whole
dubbele=double
net=net
slag=stitch

Inconsisted and mixed translations to English (if I'm well informed bobbin
lace traveled from the Dutch speaking part of Belgium to England) might be
the cause some came up with "double stitch" for twice a half stitch and
the rest of the confusion.

I'm wondering about the French terms.

Jo Falkink

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Re: [lace] Re: CT/KD

2005-01-27 Thread Dorte Zielke
Here in Denmark we have green for CT halvstitch, blue/light purpel for CTC
linenstitch, read for CTCT fore hole/doublestitch, black for the gimp,
C-hatch
Dorte from a finely white DK
www.f2.pg.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos



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