[lace] Will be gone for the weekend

2005-04-21 Thread Tracie
My apologies for the cross post 

Quick intro to "Arachne" and "Bobbin Lace Making" - I've been lurking
due to hand problems but I'm Tracie in CA and I'm very new to lace
making.  I bought the "kit from hell" (before I knew it was from hell of
course) and am doing my best to deal with it right now until I determine
that lace making is for me (which I am starting to believe! LOL).  As
soon I as I convince myself this is a hobby I will stick with, I'll look
into purchasing or making a better pillow - cuz the "pillow from hell"
sucks! LOL

Just FYI - I know I havent been very active lately but I wanted to let
you know that I'm leaving tomorrow for a friend's house and will be gone
all weekend.  I may check in but I won't be accessible much.  I've
decided to leave my options to individual emails so to all list moms -
if I bounce, please add me back...I do want to remain a member!  :)

Happy Weekend to you all! 

Many Blessings, 
Tracie

AIM: areannaroisin, YAHOO: sheradiates
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[lace] Re: Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:15, Carol Adkinson wrote:
 I am using some coloured Finca workers in a mat, and am having 
trouble with
it breaking, and wonder if it is anything to do with the fact that it 
*is*
coloured, albeit pastel!
If I were a betting person, I'd be - almost - willing to bet that the 
colour which keeps breaking is a pale green (sort-of like inner bits 
and leaves of a celery stalk). I have - consistently - had problems 
with that colour in: Madeira Tanne (50/2), Moravia linen (40/2) and 
Colcoton Unikat (34/2). But it's a lovely colour and I'm unwilling to 
give up using it; I'm just extra gentle with it.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Claire Allen
I too only have good things to say about this thread. I have a piece of 
Bucks Point that has been on the pillow for about a year now. As I have 
decided that I am not likely to get to finish it I decided last week to 
cut it off. This pillow with at least 150 pairs on it has been stored 
(very badly in my cupboard for at least the last 8 months, during which 
time, thinks have been dumped on it and it has been tipped over at 
least twice. When I went to cut it off there were only 2 broken threads 
out of all those bobbins on the pillow. This thread is a 100 or a 120 I 
think, certainly no thicker than that.

A good testament to the threads strength in my opinion.
Claire
Kent,UK
Now back home after a wonderful trip to Brugge. Thank you so much for 
all the tips of places to visit. Especially Milada who emailed me a 
whole A4 sheet of information. We had a lovely time visiting all those 
places that you recommended.

On 21 Apr 2005, at 10:36 pm, Antje González wrote:
Hello all,
As a Finca user and Spanish lacer at the same time, I want to make my
comments about Finca's threads. I also think that Elizabeths's friend 
has
been very unfortunate to get this bad reel of Finca. But this is 
really not
the normal thing to happen. I have been using Finca for many years (8 
or 9
to be more precise) and I have never had any problems. I have 
especially
used number 30, 40 and 50. Also the result of this thread after 
washing is
not bad, although there are other threads which I like more, as I have 
said
some other time. But this is just a matter of taste. I have never found
thread in bad condition, nor knots nor anything. Perhaps your friend 
should
give Finca another oportunity!
Many greetings from
Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain
http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/

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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Antje González
Hello all,
As a Finca user and Spanish lacer at the same time, I want to make my
comments about Finca's threads. I also think that Elizabeths's friend has
been very unfortunate to get this bad reel of Finca. But this is really not
the normal thing to happen. I have been using Finca for many years (8 or 9
to be more precise) and I have never had any problems. I have especially
used number 30, 40 and 50. Also the result of this thread after washing is
not bad, although there are other threads which I like more, as I have said
some other time. But this is just a matter of taste. I have never found
thread in bad condition, nor knots nor anything. Perhaps your friend should
give Finca another oportunity!
Many greetings from
Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain
http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/

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[lace] demonstrating comments

2005-04-21 Thread Kim Czerwinski
Hi, I'm normally a lurker but I couldn't help but share this.  I was 
demonstrating lacemaking at a seniors center.  I was trying to explain that 
I was making a garter and pointed out the actual lace to a woman.  She 
responds with "What are they all going to think when the bride makes all 
that noise walking down the aisle?"  Immediately, I had a visual picture of 
the 100+ bobbins hanging from the brides leg and had a fit of giggles.

Back to lurkdom
Kim Czerwinski
in Delaware
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Re: [lace] Overlapping ends of bobbin lace edging

2005-04-21 Thread ahengen
Hi all,

I can not agree with you, point lace ground is the easiest of the lace to do a
joining. I had the joining -lace cours in Brugge and my first attemts to join
lace was some point Lille as we say in Europe. you work the joining over CTTT
aeria over two rows, so no difficulty to hold on long term.

I lately learned how to beginn and end this kind of lace with nods and I was not
happy at all with the result. As I showed my teacher the joining in some of my
former laces she said that with the result I had, she can understand me but most
of her students dont work well with a needle so she prefers the nodded 
technique.

I only can recommend to try joining point-Lille lace, so you can decide wich way
works best for you

Alix

from sunny but cold Luxembourg

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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2005 #136

2005-04-21 Thread Libby Inglis
Laminating lace.
 hi Arachnids,
it might be worth pricking the air bubbles with a pin and then putting the
whole thing through the laminator again. That can sometimes help the
material of the pouch to settle around an uneven surface.
Hope it's successful
Libby, in sunny Shrewsbury UK
>
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:05:20 +0100
> From: "Carol Adkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [lace] laminating
>
> Hi Spiders All,
>
> I have followed this with interest, as it is what I do with some - only
> some! - of my prickings.   But - a cautionary note!
>
> The mother of one of my children had the mat which the child had made
> laminated - against my better judgement, I must add! - and was very upset
> with the results.   Because the mat was not flat like a pricking, the
> lamination produced lots of air bubbles - which was what I half suspected,
> and warned against - over the mat, and really did spoil it completely.
The
> child was devastated, as it was quite a big achievement for her, a
relative
> beginner, to have completed the mat, so the outcome was not a success!
>
> So - if you ever have the desire to laminate the lace itself, do think
> carefully.   The laminating was done in a local stationery store - maybe
it
> would depend on who does the laminating, but I suspect it would always be
> liable to air bubbles, and therefore disappointment ensues, to some
extent.
:

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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Linda Walton
Patricia in Wales wrote:-

> I had great trouble with threads breaking while using a pale green Cotona
> Madiera 30.  (snip)  So I assumed there is something in pastel colours'
> dye which damages the thread - and it isn't present in deep colours.  this
may
> apply to finca, too.

Some years ago, I remember having the same trouble with a pale green cotton
thread, Brillante d'Alsace 30.  Maybe it's something to do with green dye ?

Linda Walton,
(miserably asthmatic in
High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Scotlace
Carol

I had great rtrouble with threads breaking while using a pale green Cotona 
Madiera 30.  Since then I have used Christmas red (once) and regal purple 
(twice) without any problems.  So I assumed there is something in pastel 
colours' 
dye which damages the thread - and it isn't present in deep colours.  this may 
apply to finca, too.

Patricia in Wales
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Re: [lace] Overlapping ends = reply PS

2005-04-21 Thread Alice Howell
At 06:51 AM 4/21/2005, you wrote:
Can anyone think of a reason that I can't do the
overlap method with this piece of lace?
P.S. --The book recommends practicing with commecial lace and colored 
thread so you can see what you are doing.

Alice 

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Re: [lace] Overlapping ends = reply

2005-04-21 Thread Alice Howell
At 06:51 AM 4/21/2005, you wrote:
I have been saving all the discussions about overlap
finishes.  But someone (Alice?) said that it doesn't
work well with point ground laces because the ground
is too fine..
In Shelley Canning's book 32 Downton Lace Patterns,
she says that Downton lace was traditionally joined
with a seam and then oversewn. .
Can anyone think of a reason that I can't do the
overlap method with this piece of lace?
Hi,
This is Alice, and that comment did not come from me.
The Het Lassen book has pictures on p. 40 and 42 of pieces of antique 
Mechlin that were joined by this method.  One picture shows a repair that 
replaced a section of net with this method.

The comments in the book said that earlier fashions had the lace gathered 
or pleated.  Pieces were just seamed since the seam was lost in the 
gathers.  When handkerchiefs with corners became fashionable, methods were 
needed to connect the lace with a joining that looked the same on both 
sides.  Also, the Belgian laces that began with bundled threads had to have 
a joining method that did not involve knots.  Their 'lassen' method spread 
to other laces.

At another spot in the book, the author says that mesh is easier to 
'lassen' but a firm mesh has less problems that a stretchy mesh such as Tulle.

Later in the book are diagrams for working with mesh.  Page 82 has a 
picture of point ground lace that was joined.

So, I would see no reason why the newer method of 'lassen' could not be 
used with the Downton lace instead of the old method of seaming,  provided 
there is sufficient overlap to choose the best pathway across the  lace.

Happy lacing,
Alice  

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Re: [lace] Horror Kit/Victorian Trading Co?

2005-04-21 Thread Barb ETx
  EEW..the horror kit.

  About learning.  I have found that bobbin lace is the easiest thing I ever
learned to do    ***and*** the hardest to do well  As Gertrude
Biedermann  (bless her soul) used to say, "practice, practice, practice "

  BarbE

  There's always a lot to be thankful for, if you take time to look for it.
  For example ,I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't
hurt.

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Subject: [lace] Horror Kit/Victorian Trading Co?


Don't know if this has come up before since I don't usually read  postings
entitled horror kit. But my attention has been drawn by a nonlace  friend
to a
kit offered through the Victorian Trading Company at
_http://www.victoriantradingco.com/store/catalogimages/9i/i1473.html_
(http://www.victoriantradingco.com/store/catalogimages/9i/i1473.html) .
It describes lacemaking as a
"surprisingly simple art form."
Devon

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[lace] Horror Kit/Victorian Trading Co?

2005-04-21 Thread Dmt11home
Don't know if this has come up before since I don't usually read  postings 
entitled horror kit. But my attention has been drawn by a nonlace  friend to a 
kit offered through the Victorian Trading Company at 
_http://www.victoriantradingco.com/store/catalogimages/9i/i1473.html_ 
(http://www.victoriantradingco.com/store/catalogimages/9i/i1473.html) .   It 
describes lacemaking as a 
"surprisingly simple art form."
Devon

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Re: [lace] Overlapping ends of bobbin lace edging

2005-04-21 Thread Laceandbits
The point ground style lace ground is made with 2 pairs working cttt pin and 
that's it.  

A flanders type ground is made with 4 pairs doing something on the lines of 
ct on each of two sets of 2 pairs of bobbins, ctct on the centre 2 pairs, ct 
again on both sets of 2, pin, ctct in the centre again and then another ct on 
the 2 sets.

You can see immediately why with the second there is enough to be able to 
stitch around and anchor everything, and with the first it would just pull 
apart.

When Downton was made the corners would have been gathered and the seam (just 
a normal sewing seam across, using tiny stitches and then cut off the spare 
to about 1/4" and oversew back, making a roll so the ends are all tucked in) 
can then be concealed just at the start of the gathers.  It is far less 
noticeable than you think it's going to be.

Malvary and I spent several bemused hours yesterday going through a large box 
of Victorian and Edwardian clothes - ladies underwear and blouses, baby 
clothes, and childrens dresses - probably 40 or 50 items in all, that we found 
in a 
box right in the far back corner of Mum's workroom (and which has probably 
been buried for 25 years at least).  Neither of us knew they were there, or 
have 
seen them before.

The lace and embroidery was quite often joined to be able to use it most 
effectively and it doesn't detract at all.  I think it is a modern thing that 
the 
join should be invisible in all cases, but I am as guilty of this as everyone 
else.

Jacquie

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[lace] Overlapping ends of bobbin lace edging

2005-04-21 Thread Diane Williams
I have been saving all the discussions about overlap
finishes.  But someone (Alice?) said that it doesn't
work well with point ground laces because the ground
is too fine.

Here's my situation.
I have made lots of an edging from Bertha Kemp's book
of Downton Lace.  The pattern is Duke's Garter.  A
friend is getting married and I would like to lop off
some of this edging to put on a hanky for her.

In Shelley Canning's book 32 Downton Lace Patterns,
she says that Downton lace was traditionally joined
with a seam and then oversewn.  That sounds much more
visible (for lack of a better word) than the overlap
method that has been described on the list lately.

Can anyone think of a reason that I can't do the
overlap method with this piece of lace?  If not, what
other bright ideas does everyone have?

Anxiously awaiting your knowledge and experiences,

Diane Williams
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Galena Illinois USA

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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,
 I am using some coloured Finca workers in a mat, and am having trouble with
it breaking, and wonder if it is anything to do with the fact that it *is*
coloured, albeit pastel!

I have used the white and ecru Finca, of both sizes, and have had no
troubles at all - just with this one 'rogue' reel, and that is the only
reason I can think of.

Just my two-pennorth!

Carol - in Suffolk UK - sunny and bright, lovely day for drying the blankets
and heavy stuff ...

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Re: [lace] Encapsulating versus laminating

2005-04-21 Thread Barb ETx
Thanks for the information, Andy.  This goes into my preservation file
Hugs BarbE
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  To: Carol Adkinson ; Lace
  Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:28 AM
  Subject: [lace] Encapsulating versus laminating


I am so sorry her item was ruined.
  I do not laminate.  I "encapsulate" genelogical papers I use Archival save
mylar (flexible plastic that does not produce gasses which damage fabric &
paper). Look for it in your office supply store.  Frequently it comes like a
sleeve with holes punched in the sides to hold papers.  I cut the hole part
off along with one short side then make a sandwich with the item (lace, paper
etc) in the middle.
  1.  Put double stick tape around the edge of the top side of the bottom
sheet
  2.  Place the lace item in the center.  The Mylar should be just a little
larger than the item plus the width of the double stick tape. This way the
item never gets anything stuck to it, but floats freely in the middle between
two sheets of Archival safe plastic.
  3.  Carefully place the second sheet of mylar on top. Beginning at one
corner and working around to seal it.
  The result is something that is preserved, but not damaged and can be
removed later without damaging the item by simply cutting the outside
edge.between the item and the double stick tape.
Hope this helps anyone wanting to preserve an item.
  Andy in Texas

  Carol Adkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Spiders All,

  I have followed this with interest, as it is what I do with some - only
  some! - of my prickings. But - a cautionary note!

  The mother of one of my children had the mat which the child had made
  laminated - against my better judgement, I must add! - and was very upset
  with the results. Because the mat was not flat like a pricking, the
  lamination produced lots of air bubbles - which was what I half suspected,
  and warned against - over the mat, and really did spoil it completely. The
  child was devastated, as it was quite a big achievement for her, a relative
  beginner, to have completed the mat, so the outcome was not a success!

  So - if you ever have the desire to laminate the lace itself, do think
  carefully. The laminating was done in a local stationery store - maybe it
  would depend on who does the laminating, but I suspect it would always be
  liable to air bubbles, and therefore disappointment ensues, to some extent.

  Carol - in Suffolk UK.

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Re: [lace] Re: Weldon's numberings

2005-04-21 Thread Leonard Bazar
--- Barbara Ballantyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It  was a very interesting topic as so many books
> and magazines were
> undated and some illustrious names were included on
> the books published many
> years after the lady had died.

I suspect this was in part so that they could continue
to sell magazine which would otherwise seem to be out
of date!  Weldon's certainly kept theirs in print
while they were continuing publishing, as did the
Manchester School of Needlework (after the first few
were allowed to go out of print).  It surprises me
that with our ability to store on disc publishers of
monthly magazines do not similarly keep all
back-numbers available, but they don't!


Leonard


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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread WaltonVS
Hi Jacquie, I am now UK Presencia. Pat gets here threads fom me. Spain would 
never blame the worker. The lady you read about in previous emails has already 
been told to send what she has left back so that they can have a look at it 
and I am sure she will be more than reimbursed. I couldn't deal with it as she 
is in Australia. Finca is a lovely thread BUT I would never say in any thread 
that you will never never get a rogue reel. If you get any problem get in 
touch with me and we will sort it. I am please you are still willing to try 
again, 
it is sad when one bad experience puts you off completely. If you give me 
your address I will send you a reel of 100 or would you like to try one of the 
new coloured Finca lace threads? Let me know. Best wishes Vivienne. FINCA UK

 KEEP LACING, TATTING, CROCHETING AND EMBROIDERING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS

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Re: [lace] Finca threads

2005-04-21 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 18/04/2005 07:36:59 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> I have just been talking to a lacemaking friend, who has had a bad go with 
> a 
> reel of Finka - #60 I think.  It has put her off ever using it again, but I 
> suspect she may have a bad reel, as I have not had any problems.

I bought a reel of Finca 100 to use for Milanese when I was about to do the 
pieces for Pat Read's new book.  I wound bobbins and started with the Split 
Braids piece.  As I wound I noticed that in places the thread was slubby, like 
a 
linen thread, and I did think this was unusual for a cotton thread; 
particularly when it had been so highly recommended.  As I began work I had 
broken 
threads, far more than I would expect for this weight thread, and eventually 
e-mailed Roseground to query it.  Pat said I could send it back if I wanted, 
and 
that she would query it with the rep.  (I have since heard from her that he 
implies it is impossible for there to be a fault, it must be me.  Bad workman 
blames her materials!)  As I had the first braid interlock done, I decided to 
keep 
using it for that piece, wound the bobbins for the next set and soldiered on 
and it did get better.

When it came off the pillow, I liked the crispness of it and I had stopped 
having problems with breaks, so I thought maybe I had been heavy handed and 
just 
needed to get used to it.

As I now had all these bobbins wound, I went straight on to Basil and I think 
only had one or two broken threads in all of it.

Recently I have been working some new, white designs and having two bobbins 
cases full of bowed-off bobbins from Split Braids and Basil (they both needed 
lots of pairs), that's what I used.  I am getting to the very end or 
*beginning* of the thread off the reel and am finding the slubs again (so I 
hadn't 
imagined them) and am being very gentle because it's not as strong as the rest 
of 
the reel was.  I have nearly finished a snail and will empty the bobbins when I 
have.  Enough is enough.  And maybe find some slubby bits to send to Pat to 
show the rep.

S, there was at the start of this reel an amount of thread enough to wind 
about 30 full bobbins (say 5 metres each) which was of a lower quality to the 
rest of the reel.  I don't think it's just that the outside layers had got 
dry as I tried all the usually helpful humidifying tactics, and this would not 
explain the slubs.  May I suggest that before your friend abandons Finca 
entirely, she pulls off a quantity of thread and sees if it is any better 
elsewhere 
on the reel.  Also that she returns the reel to the supplier if at all 
possible for comment from the manufacturer.

I have just bought another reel of 100, and some of the other thicknesses as 
well to try, so despite the shaky start I am another convert to Finca.

Jacquie

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[lace] unfortunate translation?

2005-04-21 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
The original Dutch word is as unfortunate as the original. My husband whas
very puzzled, "what do you want with lassen/welding?" he asked me.

Jo Falkink
from Holland

> "Welding" is an unfortunate translation; they
> mean "joining".  This class covers the type of joining ("lassen") that
Alice
> recently described so well, used in Flemish continuous laces (Flanders &
> Binche).
>
> Cathy Belleville

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[lace] Another table cloth pattern

2005-04-21 Thread Laceandbits
One of Ann Moore's patterns (on her web site, google search will find it) is 
for a table cloth/mat/tray cloth etc and has advantages over the Veronica 
Sorenson one in that the borders all fit all the size middles.  It is sold as a 
self-contained booklet and as she sells direct I would think it is probably 
still available.

I have a student making the VS one and she had reached the penultimate round 
and realistically decided she was losing interest in it.  She felt that if she 
missed a round then she could face the outer one and settle for a smaller 
cloth.  However, because the pattern develops and each round is wider than the 
previous, you can't just omit one, so some fairly major redrafting was needed.

The VS one is probably more interesting to work *because* each round is 
different, but know your own limitations.

Onother student has made the one that Biggins sell, and it is just beautiful. 
 I have some photos of it if anyone is interested.  She joined it one the 
pillow as she was working it, which means that the tension in the join is the 
same as the lace because it's all pinned, and when it was finished it was 
blocked 
out and lightly spray starched.  Do think how you plan to finish and store 
your cloth after all that work. 

Jacquie.

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Re: [lace] Re: Weldon's numberings

2005-04-21 Thread Barbara Ballantyne
My first Mary Card book (Mary Card: Australian Crochet Lace Designer 2002)
has an appendix on dating a range of needlework publications.

 I was not aware at that time that Richard Rutt had previously provided
dates for Weldon's (fortunately our dates agreed).

It  was a very interesting topic as so many books and magazines were
undated and some illustrious names were included on the books published many
years after the lady had died.

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Barbara Ballantyne
Sydney Australia

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Subject: [lace] Re: Weldon's numberings


Weldon's started publishing their Practical Needlework
magazines in 1886, producing one a month on various
crafts, and issuing each year's in sequentially
numbered volumes.  Vol 10 was published in 1895.  So
far, so logical.  Unfortunately, the separate monthly
instalments were numbered by topic, so Point Lace
Second Series (say) could have been published any time
after the first, making it very difficult to date the
separate monthly issues.  In July 1915, when you would
have thought the best minds were occupied elsewhere,
they started indicating the months on the cover, as
7/15.  They kept old numbers in print, good for us,
but not for dating!  All this from "A History of Hand
Knitting" by Richard Rutt, who has sorted out when the
knitting magazines were published.

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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:03:35 -0400
> From: "Jane Viking Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [lace] Weldon's reprints
>
> Hi All,  At the IOLI Convention last year I got
> Volume 10
> of the Weldon's Practical Needlework series that
> Piecework magazine is
> reprinting.  This one finally has Point Lace in it
> (grandmother to
> Battenberg/Tape Lace).  However, there is
> no date.  They give the general dates but Weldon's
> printed
> booklets on many different needlework techniques
> throughout
> the year.  I think it's probably from around 1898.
> Does anyone
> have any idea about when Weldon's published the
> compendiums?  Sometimes ads
> in old magazines are for the new volume available.

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[lace] Another 'Technique of Tonder Lace on ebay

2005-04-21 Thread Jean Nathan
There's another cxopy of 'The Technique of Tonder Lace' by Inge Skovgaard on 
ebay (starting bid GBP2.50, 5 day auction), again postage to UK only. If 
anyone outside the UK is desparate for it and wants to bid, I'd be happy to 
take delivery and post on to you if you pay me the winning bid, postage to 
me and postage to you by Paypal, but contact me before you start bidding. 
Don't know what postage outside the UK will be, but it's getting more and 
more expensive, so it would be worth contacting the seller first to see if 
he/she would post outside the UK to save on the postage to me and make 
arrangements for me to pay for you - I'd still be happy to make payment for 
you for reimbursement by Paypal.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1363&item=8186792838&rd=1 
or search for item number 8186792838

Jean in Poole 

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