[lace] Re: tatting and lace
Darn, English is such an impossible language ! :) Jenny B who did not know she was intolerant (wonder if it is art intolerance or craft intolerance or . ) At 02:15 AM 10/16/2005 -0400, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Oct 16, 2005, at 2:05, Jenny Brandis wrote: I missed the word *bobbin* in front of lace makers - so it should have read. the tatters who are also bobbin lace makers. Does that sound better? :) Better, but... I also used your your original subject line, and have kept it for this message... See the division? Tatting on the one hand _and_ lace on the other It's like racial inolerance - it creeps up on you unawares... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tatting and lace
On Oct 16, 2005, at 2:05, Jenny Brandis wrote: I missed the word *bobbin* in front of lace makers - so it should have read. the tatters who are also bobbin lace makers. Does that sound better? :) Better, but... I also used your your original subject line, and have kept it for this message... See the division? Tatting on the one hand _and_ lace on the other It's like racial inolerance - it creeps up on you unawares... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tatting and lace
At 01:49 AM 10/16/2005 -0400, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Oct 16, 2005, at 0:50, Jenny Brandis wrote: While surfing this morning I came across this pattern and immediately thought of the tatters who are also lace makers Jenny, you know I love you, so THIS IS NOT A FLAME. Hi Tamara and all I realise it is not a flame, and do not take it as one - but seeing as how English is my first language and I still stuff it up I thought I should explain. I missed the word *bobbin* in front of lace makers - so it should have read. the tatters who are also bobbin lace makers. Does that sound better? :) Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tatting and lace
On Oct 16, 2005, at 0:50, Jenny Brandis wrote: While surfing this morning I came across this pattern and immediately thought of the tatters who are also lace makers Jenny, you know I love you, so THIS IS NOT A FLAME. This said, I think this division - "tatters" on the South Pole and "lace makers" on the North Pole (and the twain shall never meet) is one of the major problem-generators we have on this list, with the Christmas exchange being the most recent flare-up on the subject. Seems to me that _most_ (though by no means _all_) of North America (US and Canada) thinks of "lace" as "anything fine, fancy, with lots of open spaces". By which definition, tating _is_ lace... as is crochet and knitting (and Batternberg, and Romanian Point, and Carricmacross, and Liers, and... which are less often "questioned"), _as long as_ they meet that definition; knit or crochet for warmth (with all the stitches huddling together) and it's not lace; open it up, and it is. OTOH, most of Europe thinks that "lace" is limited to bobbin and needle made, thus relegating "all other" - especially tatting, knitting and crochet - to a less exalted place in lace-life. UK seems to "sit on the fence" on the subject, but then UK, quite often, seems to have a "split identity" (quite like Turkey and Russia ) as to belonging/not belonging to Europe... :) So, um... I know that US is not the "flavour of the month" in the world (Europe and beyond), and hasn't been since March of '03... But we are, I think, doing something right, when we're being inclusive on the matter of what's "lace" and what's shoved into a doghouse. So, give us - and yourselves - a break (and a brake)? I have a piece of tatting - a 6.5" (16.5cm) round doily made in 50/2 (machine-sewing) cotton - which is far more lacy (including the proportions of "thick and thin") than most of my own designs. How can it, possibly, be termed "and tatting", rather than "lace"??? -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] tatting and lace
While surfing this morning I came across this pattern and immediately thought of the tatters who are also lace makers - what a joyful combination! http://www.domesticarts.com/Patterns/Spider.htm Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] unable to subscribe to lace chat, cant reach list owner - help!
I've subscribed you to lace-chat. I received your message at two addresses. If someone out there writes to me and I don't respond immediately, please remember that (a) I might be asleep (as I was when these messages arrived; I live in Israel, 7 hours ahead of the US east coast) or (b) I might be off-line for a Jewish holiday (don't expect me to answer e-mails this Tuesday or next Tuesday or any Saturday). I try to take care of Arachne requests as soon as possible, even when I'm at work, and I check my e-mail frequently. I very seldom have computer problems (ptui, ptui, ptui!). Of course, if you mean that you haven't heard from Liz, the real list owner, that's because she leaves most of the hands-on list management to me. Best wishes, Avital Arachne moderator > Say, I tried several weeks ago to subscribe to lace chat, and couldn't. > So I wrote to the list owner, and never heard from her. Can someone who > can fix it please get in touch with me. Thanks! > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, Texas > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Sprang in the SW US (and elsewhere)
Then there's the Sprang bonnet at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. We saw it during the "treasure hunt" that Devon organized for the Hasbrouck Heights IOLI convention. It looked a lot like the Salado piece and was labelled as ancient Egyptian. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So, OK, bits of Sprang (under whatever name) have been dug in Peru, > dated as early as 500 BC, and the craft seems to have been known all > over the world for hundreds of years. No reason why it shouldn't have > resurfaced in Arizona or thereabouts, (spontaneously or through long > tribal memory ) some 1800 yrs later. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sprang in the SW US
Thanks for sharing this - I was reminded of what I think as 'Aztec' for the woven shapes. To Jeri, I have PCollingwood's The Maker's Hand, usually on the topmost level of my reference stack. In TMH structurally he describes one of the bags in sprang, as 'one set of elements, obliquely interlaced.' I'm sorry PC never took to lace such as we make, to lend his technical interpretation. On 10/15/05, Lynn Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was it this piece? > http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml > Nice 'link' - pun intended ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Christmas exchange (again)
On Oct 15, 2005, at 12:57, Dianora di Cellini (Kathy) wrote: At first I was excited to read about the exchange - now I think I, too, will just stay in "lurk" mode. While one bad apple _can_ poison a whole barrel, I don't think that has happened to us yet. So, if you - and Ank - would give us a chance, you might find we're more friendly than we might appear on a short acquaintance. [...] I watched it turn to "ruin," I got very frustrated and was ready to throw it away. Never, ever, throw your "baby steps" away... Keep them as your "strivers" to measure your progress against - the next piece is always better, and the next one better still (until you start learning a new technique, and your cake is dough again ). Keep them also as a learning resource - see what went wrong, and think on how to improve it next time around. I cannot always put my hands on my own "first piece" - things seem to disappear in my house when I'm looking for them and pop up when I'm not; living proof of the existence of the Borrowers - but I've kept it for 15.5 yrs and, whenever it pops up, I lay a more recent piece against it, which tells me I've come _that far_ since. Very satisfying... Of course, the current piece could also profit from improvement, but that's the human lot, no? For most of us, the road is at least as important as actually being there. PS The only "stupid questions" are the ones un-asked; they leave one un-enlightened. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Christmas Card Exchange
I have already told Bev to sign me up for the exchange and I will be happy with whatever I receive. Many, make that ALL, of my exchange pieces of lace are on permanent display in my dining room glass fronted cabinet but when the christmas tree is up they migrate to it. I also keep all the Christmas cards I have received, printed or actual lace, and they come out every year. I hope one day to have enough to fill one of my card holders. Looking at the web page from last year I noticed the Battenburg butterfly made by Jane and I think I have a similar one made by a guild friend which I have hanging year round from one of the brass knobs on the cabinet. When someone new visits my home I show them the exchange items and if I know they will appreciate looking more closely I open the doors and get them out. I cherish every one of them even though I can't remember who made what now, but put that down to old age. Today I taught a Christmas ornament class with a simple design as I have some beginners and I hope that my recipient will be happy with my design. One lacer finished the item and another was well on the way before he had to leave to pick up his kids. Last week I received a thank you card from a young girl who had worked on a snake on my have a go pillow at a local church demonstration. When I left I finished it up and mailed it to another child who worked the most on it and having plenty of thread on the bobbins I quickly make up another and sent it to the one who brought me the thank you card. She has been coming each year since she was six, now she is nine and is pleased to have two snakes on her bedroom notice board, one from her first time and this one. Every year I try to think of a different easy lace project for them to make and I love seeing them do it. It amazes me how they remember the stitches from one year to the next so that I can leave them to get on with it while I talk to the adults who are afraid to have a go. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Sprang in the SW US
In a message dated 10/15/05 8:43:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Was it this piece? > http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml > > I love the obvious care and attention that went into its making. The > caption says this is older than 1800's, though, so maybe not: "Dates: ca. > AD 1300-1450". > > In any case, a lacey enough textile to bring to the attention of the list. > Dear Lynn, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have printed a copy and placed it in my book by Peter Collingwood: "The Techniques of Sprang". This garment is listed in the Introduction - History section, and a description of how it would have been made is in the Methods of Finishing Chapter - under Making Two Fabrics (which contains only line drawings). It is wonderful to have such a wonderful photo. Jeri Ames in Maine Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Sprang in the SW US
On Oct 15, 2005, at 20:42, Lynn Carpenter wrote: http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml I love the obvious care and attention that went into its making. The caption says this is older than 1800's, though, so maybe not: "Dates: ca. AD 1300-1450". In any case, a lacey enough textile to bring to the attention of the list. Thanks! _Very pretty_ And very modern in some ways. Also intriguing as to the design and its origin as well as the date... The culture from which this particular piece "sprang" is listed as "Salado", which - followed through Google - seems to have been an old Indian tribe (500-1450) - descendants of "wayfaring Anasazi" - and known for both its pottery and its cotton weaving. Since I've always thought of Sprang as being of Scandinavian origin (the term certainly is) and quite a bit earlier than 1450, I dipped into Google some more, this time on Sprang, which brought up: http://www.regia.org/life/sprang.htm and confirmed my confusion... :) So, OK, bits of Sprang (under whatever name) have been dug in Peru, dated as early as 500 BC, and the craft seems to have been known all over the world for hundreds of years. No reason why it shouldn't have resurfaced in Arizona or thereabouts, (spontaneously or through long tribal memory ) some 1800 yrs later. But, according to the website on Sprang, the textile's foremost feature - afer its openness - is it's twisty nature and stretchiness; that's why it was used for things like stockings, hairnets, caps... and shopping bags in more modern times. Yet the tunic doesn't seem to show any of that - there's an awful lot of what looks like solid weaving (or cloth-stitch in BL). I'd dearly love to inspect that tunic closely and even lay my hands on it (to see how stretchy it is)... :) And then there's the design... According to the statemuseum.arizona site, those are The design motifs--running triangles and interlocking rectilinear scrolls Which is what really got me googling to begin with; given how bad my memory is these days, I thought I was losing my mind entirely. But no, not yet The so-called "scrolls" still are what I've always known as "Greek Key" (which is supposed to represent the path to Minotaur's lair on Crete. At least _I think_ it was Crete). The "running triangles" could also be Greek, without much of a stretch of imagination; they look sooo much like sails of a flotilla... Which, of course, would be in keeping with Greeks (and Scandinavians), but not with land-locked Salados. Unless we put it down to the "wayfaring Anasazis" and long tribal memory again... A lot of fascinating (and futile ) questions generated by one photo... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Sprang in the SW US
"Clay Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >And to keep this "lace related"... One of the first bits of "old lace" I >ever saw was a bit of "Sprang" (if I'm not mistaken), made by Indians in >the Southwest in the mid 1800's. Was it this piece? http://www.statemuseum.arizona.edu/coll/peris2.shtml I love the obvious care and attention that went into its making. The caption says this is older than 1800's, though, so maybe not: "Dates: ca. AD 1300-1450". In any case, a lacey enough textile to bring to the attention of the list. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ithaca Lace Days report
Hi All, Here's my report from the Ithaca (New York) Lace Days last weekend. Sumac and I drove out and saw some nice leaves on the way! We're getting faster at the trip and learning about new short cuts all the time. Finding a 12" tall (30.5 cm) Chewbacca Pez dispenser at one rest stop was the first thrill of the trip for me . We enjoyed the Friday night reception. The hotel seems to have a new chef or something, the food was different from past years and very good (as it was before but nice to have something new). We had a good time chatting with lots of lace makers! Saturday morning is for shopping and we did a lot of that!! Also putting tickets in for the raffle items and admiring the lace display. The latter had a wonderful array as usual! Susie Johnson (not the one on arachne, the Withof teacher) had a big display which included lots of her students work including Sumac's! The Dentelle Polychrome de Courseulles fans by Claudette Bouvot were spectacular!! We missed the mid-day talk by Claudette and Michel Bouvot on the history of Normandy BL (La Blonde de Caen) unfortunately. Can someone else on the list tell us about that? Sumac had her Withof class in the afternoon but I signed up too late for a class so I shopped a little more and made some lace in the hallway by the classrooms. I also spent time pouring over a book from 1970 by two ladies on the history of Battenberg lace! Another researcher had brought that to show me and it is fascinating. They were as fascinated as me by how much information is out there and how many people shared so generously with them. I have answered a few of their questions and the book gives me lots of new leads to follow . One of the authors died in 2003 so I hope she saw my article on Sara Hadley in "Piecework" in 1995, she would have appreciated it. The banquet Saturday night was great fun!! More good food and divine Chocolate Mousse Cakes - Yum! This was the 25th Anniversary of the Ithaca Lace Days and we celebrated that! Holly Van Sciver is one of the original organizers and still works very hard to get this going. When we got to our chairs we found an envelope with a picture of Holly (about 7"x7", 18x18 cm) on a stick, like a fan. The mistress of ceremonies had Holly and her DH Gerry turn their backs to the crowd until we were ready. She told them to turn around and face their "fans"!! We were all waving our fans with Holly's picture and they were so surprised! What a great idea . Susie Johnson gave a talk on Withof after we ate. It was fabulous, she really did a great job. It was fun to see pictures of Sister Judith and hear more about the creation and evolution of Withof. The pictures of lace were spectacular including a gorgeous fan made by Doris Schick of the New England Lace Group! At the end was the parade of chickens made by many of Susie's students. That's the first project she starts them on and it was fun to see so many! There were other examples of the same design made by different lace makers too. Part of the thing with Withof is that the lace maker chooses how to do the design (someone else can probably explain this better) so the same pattern looks different done by someone else. Classes continued on Sunday and Monday and I peeked in a few classrooms. The Milanese Lace bracelets that Radmila Zuman was teaching were wonderful! That's another great way to wear lace! I also got to see Mary Shield's exquisite Carrickmacross jacket!! It is breathtaking!! The whole jacket is net with CMX around the edge, beautiful sprays of flowers and leaves up the sleeves, on both fronts and on the back with smaller flower motifs and, of course, pops sprinkled all over! Pops are tiny couronnes (buttonholed rings) made around one hole in the net. (Not as hard as it sounds, I took Mary's class in Ithaca a few years ago.) It was great, great fun!! I hope more of you will join us in the future. It's put on by the Finger Lakes Lace Guild and I can't find their website at the moment. Actually, Holly Van Sciver has the information on it on her website though I guess the info. on the 26th annual event won't be up quite yet . They reserve a block of rooms and they're usually around $100.00 USD a night so with one or two roommates it's not too bad. Besides the restaurant in the hotel there are a number of others within walking distance and two big grocery stores too. So it doesn't have to be a very expensive long weekend if you don't spend to much in the sales room . It's usually on Columbus Day weekend so mark your calendars! We heard about the flooding in New Hampshire when we were out there. Keene, NH is a fifteen minute drive from Brattleboro and they really got nailed. The water did creep onto my road for the first time that anybody can remember (still quite a way from my house) and Sumac found some flooding in her basement but I saw the sun come out for ten minutes this afternoon so the end may be in sight! Jane in Vermont, USA [EMAIL
Re: [lace] Prize arrived
Yes it is lace. It's the piece at the start of my collection of photos on the arachne photo pages. The little book which I made originally for the Lace Guild's competition. http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=148719591 I was told about the library's competition "One World Many Visions - art and the written word" and this seemed the most appropriate of my pieces to enter. I nearly didn't bother, but now I'm very glad that I did! I just thought it was a good idea to exhibit lace to a wider audience Sue Congratulations :-) Do you have a picture to show of your lace? I assume it was a piece of lace you won with :-) Ann-Marie, Sweden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange
It is SO refreshing to hear the Native names, and pronounced (hopefully) as they once were. In Virginia, we have the Monacan, Seminole, Shenandoah, Rappahanock, Chincoteague, Assateague, and Puncateague, to name a few, and except for the first two, either towns or regions have been named for them. Our local Native American descendants are very active and have Pow-Wows annually to keep their traditions alive. And to keep this "lace related"... One of the first bits of "old lace" I ever saw was a bit of "Sprang" (if I'm not mistaken), made by Indians in the Southwest in the mid 1800's. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Original Message] > From: Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Aurelia Loveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Date: 10/15/2005 6:37:39 PM > Subject: Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange > > Yes, exactly. We have many Native American tribes in this area, and many > cities are named after them. Enumclaw, Puyallup, etc. Say EE-num-claw and > Pew-AL-up (that's pew as in a church, and Al, like the nickname for Allan). > It's a challenge for newcomers, but we "natives" take it all in stride! > > Barbara Joyce > Snoqualmie, WA > USA > > Home of beautiful Snoqualmie Falls > http://tinyurl.com/bakvm > > > Snohomish? Snoqualmie? Are these names of Indian tribes, or what? > > (types of lace, maybe? as, Snoqualmie lace?) -- Aurelia > > > > > >> I love > >> Snoqualmie > >> I am not in Snohomish > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Christmas Card Exchange
Please don't do that Ank, I would be pleased to receive a card from you no matter what was on it. Shirley in Corio OZ. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Chrismas card exchange
I was always taught that it is the thought that counts and not the gift, I am grateful for anything I receive. I am the person who received the card from Cary Foertsch with her first piece of lace on it and I treasure it, We are still friends and regularly correspond. Shirley in Corio,Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange
Yes, exactly. We have many Native American tribes in this area, and many cities are named after them. Enumclaw, Puyallup, etc. Say EE-num-claw and Pew-AL-up (that's pew as in a church, and Al, like the nickname for Allan). It's a challenge for newcomers, but we "natives" take it all in stride! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA Home of beautiful Snoqualmie Falls http://tinyurl.com/bakvm > Snohomish? Snoqualmie? Are these names of Indian tribes, or what? > (types of lace, maybe? as, Snoqualmie lace?) -- Aurelia > > >> I love >> Snoqualmie >> I am not in Snohomish - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] EK
Alice, Thank for your prompt reply, and with so much thought behind it. I get the feeling you really enjoy EK's patterns. They certainly do have a style all their own. Joyce Moes Lake Placid (Cairns, at the tropical end of Australia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange
Snohomish? Snoqualmie? Are these names of Indian tribes, or what? (types of lace, maybe? as, Snoqualmie lace?) -- Aurelia I love Snoqualmie I am not in Snohomish - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
I agree completely with Aurelia, Chris! At the IOLI in Denver, there were several favors at each place at the lunches and the banquet, as well as in our (bulging) "goodie bag" (in actuality, a wonderfully useful tote bag). As it happened, I had one piece of bobbin lace and several pieces of tatted lace in the luck of my draw. And considering the projects involved, I'm sure that the tatting took every bit as long to make as the bobbin lace. Since I know enough about tatting to make a big mess, I admire examples of tatting, and have put my pretty tatted "fan" on my bulletin board by this computer, so I see it every day. I have every intention of learning more about tatting "one of these days" - because it IS pretty, and because I consider its portability a huge plus. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Original Message] > From: Aurelia Loveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Chris Vail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Date: 10/15/2005 10:33:26 AM > Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange > > No, Chris, don't take offense. That surely doesn't represent the > feeling of most of us textile-lovers. A knitted beauty, a tatted > beauty, a crocheted beauty -- who wouldn't be happy to get one of > those? And Tamara's idea of a "textile tree" has the typical > obviousness of a genius-inspired idea: how didn't we think of it long > ago? -- Aurelia > > > >As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that - I can > >only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first > >and most often practiced lace. I rather get the > >impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also > not be appreciated by some > > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas/holiday card rules/guidelines again
Hello all - and I hope those who are getting tired of these messages will pls. delete this one :))) I figured out how to find a message buried in the stacks, and here is my first message, complete with dates - and with an addendum to the photo info: "Hi everyone Hearing no nays, a few yays, and agreeing that time flies, I hearby undertake to organize a Christmas card exchange. I am going to follow in Brenda's footsteps, and have one person send to another (A send to B, B sends to C etc.). You can then meet two people, your recipient, and your sender. If you want, you can send to more than one. Last year I received a beautiful Torchon lace candle on a card. My recipient got a snowflake that I'd made from Tamara's 2-pair Inventions. The deal is, make a lace Christmas card for your recipient. If you wish to send something else, such as a postcard from your area, that is up to you. The minimum requirement is lace on a card that can be sent at basic letter rate (incl airmail). No one should expect more - or less - and here's the qualifier: * please do not sign up if you don't think you can make a card in time to send it before Christmas! we have had other exchanges in the past, and it is s disappointing to be on the neglected end :( For fun, so that the rest of the list can enjoy, I will be happy to post pictures (via Barbara's pages) of the cards/laces if small pictures are e-mailed to me - either from the lacemaker or the recipient. Please credit the designer if you are using a published pattern, or yourself if you are the designer! *You can also send jpgs directly to Barbara ( I hope Barbara doesn't mind my posting her addy) at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < so - Send e-mail to me with 'Christmas card exchange' in the subject line, let me know if you want to send to more than one person, and please include your mailing address. I'll take names until November 1 but will start assigning well before then. Let's say December 5 is the deadline for mailing - does that sound fair?" -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Prize arrived
Congratulations :-) Do you have a picture to show of your lace? I assume it was a piece of lace you won with :-) Ann-Marie, Sweden Hälsningar Ann-Marie, Ljusdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thebreastcancersite.com http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1 http://community.webshots.com/user/quiltmaid Sue Babbs wrote: Excitement! My prize and ribbon arrived today from the library competition - now I can ponder on how to spend the $1000 on lace equipment and threads and books. What fun! Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Prize arrived
Excitement! My prize and ribbon arrived today from the library competition - now I can ponder on how to spend the $1000 on lace equipment and threads and books. What fun! Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] unable to subscribe to lace chat, cant reach list owner - help!
Say, I tried several weeks ago to subscribe to lace chat, and couldn't. So I wrote to the list owner, and never heard from her. Can someone who can fix it please get in touch with me. Thanks! Yours, Dora Smith Austin, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] MP, OT, yarn question and sock knitting machines
There is a Paris, Ontario, Canada too. The first long distance telephone call was made on August 10, 1876 by Alexander Graham Bell from his family homestead in Brantford, Ontario to his assistant located on Grand River Street North in Paris, Ontario. Paris is referred to not only as "the cobblestone capital of Canada" (in reference to a number of aged cobblestone houses) but also as "the prettiest town in Canada". I haven't been there and I think it has now been incorporated into a larger nearby town, as is happening to many of the small towns in Ontario these days. Malvary in Ottawa (which has now gobbled up many small towns in the area). - Original Message - From: "romdom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [lace] MP, OT, yarn question and sock knitting machines le 14/10/05 9:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : The reason I know this is that the other half of my life is involved with vintage and antique (yes, over 100 years old) circular sock knitting machines. At the moment we are organising the first UK convention for people who have or are interested in these machines, to be held in Bournemouth in November, but there has been an annual convention in the States for several years and also lots of local 'meets'. can't believe the things we read on arachne i'd never heard of Argyle socks before (which might not be very surprising since my University studies didn't include knitting ... lol ... ) and never imagined so many people would take an interest in circular sock knitting machines of all things ... it's true i'm not mechanical minded in the least .. i love that list dominique from Paris, france ( and thanks to the list i know there's Paris in Tennessee too ) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] photo of card exchange
... If you would like to see some of the cards exchanged last year, visit this link: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ I added this link to http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/lnk088-EN.html are there more of such Arachne pages hanging around I didn't found yet? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas Ornaments
Hello all, This discussion brings back the memories from every Christmas when we decorate our tree. I have yogurt container lids, decorated with christmas paper hung onto the tree with yarn that my kids made in pre-school. I also have a doughart bear that my son made in one of the early grades, they are part of Christmas in my house. My kids are now 24 and 22 years old. My 22 year old son proudly hangs his bear near the top of the tree, right at the front for all to see. No colour coordinated tree in my house!!! On the other hand, I visited a lacemaker at Christmas time a few years ago and she had a tree of lace ormaments, it was unbelievably beautiful. But what would I do with my yogurt lids?? Have a great weekend all, Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2005 #323
Hi - As a fellow "lurker," and someone who was interested in getting more > involved with this list, I have to say that I am pretty disillusioned and > doubt I would feel comfortable sharing my questions (might be too stupid) or > my work (might not meet someone's standards of quality). At first I was > excited to read about the exchange - now I think I, too, will just stay in > "lurk" mode. But to share a story - Years ago I made my first piece of lace. I was so proud of it! Until I took it off the pillow and it promptly - well, twisted, I guess, is the best way to describe it. It was awful! I had a friend who had watched me as I began the process, figured things out on my own, worked through to the finish. As I watched it turn to "ruin," I got very frustrated and was ready to throw it away. My friend stopped me, took it from me, stuck it in his wallet, and told me that one day I would make even more beautiful pieces and he will be proud to be able to say he had the first thing I made. My firend was killed in Desert Storm, but I've always remembered what he said - especially every time I've tried something new and it didn't quite go right. Since then, I've gone on to make lace, put it aside, pick it up again, and work to a point where I can teach others. I always try to point out the beauty in what my students have done, especially before I point out a place they need to fix. And if they're pleased - well, we can always fix the problem on the next piece. I teach at our local university, and I've brought this into those classes - always praise before you correct, and see the beauty in everything people try to do. I apologize if anyone things this is too long or off topic. I just felt I needed to say it. Kathy Whitaker Brooklet, GA Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:48:43 +0200 > From: "Ank van der Leek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange > > . > > > > So please understand that I just expressed a preference for > > a card with the same quality of handwork that I'm contributing. > > > > > Just this remark is the reason, why I will not participate. > Standarts, anyway by talking, are soo high! > And though I am making (trying to) lace for years now, I would not dare to > participate and being fired off because of the standarts here, even if > people are telling it isn't the case. > But regarding all answers and remarks in the years I am lurking here, I > will > stay where I are: lurking and learning. > Ank > > - - > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] MP, OT, yarn question and sock knitting machines
le 14/10/05 9:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > > The reason I know this is that the other half of my life is involved with > vintage and antique (yes, over 100 years old) circular sock knitting > machines. > At the moment we are organising the first UK convention for people who have or > are interested in these machines, to be held in Bournemouth in November, but > there has been an annual convention in the States for several years and also > lots of local 'meets'. > can't believe the things we read on arachne i'd never heard of Argyle socks before (which might not be very surprising since my University studies didn't include knitting ... lol ... ) and never imagined so many people would take an interest in circular sock knitting machines of all things ... it's true i'm not mechanical minded in the least .. i love that list dominique from Paris, france ( and thanks to the list i know there's Paris in Tennessee too ) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange
ah, Sooke, Snohomish, Snoqualmie, what the hey... On 10/15/05, Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A funny sidelight: > > Yesterday I wrote private email to Bev and ended with the fact that I'm just > a short drive south. Well, that's partially true, but as Bev tactfully > pointed out to me, the trip between our homes must also include a ferry > ride! Blub, blub! ;-) > > This entitled Bev to make a small, and unimportant mistake, but since I love > Snoqualmie (my adopted home of less than four years) so much, I will make > the correction that I am not in Snohomish (also a nice place, considerably > north and west of here). > > Barbara > > > Hi again > > Barbara in Snohomish WA has offered to host pictures of the lace cards > > we are sending - this is great, and if you want to have your lace > > posted, you can send jpgs to her or me (and I'll pass them along). > > > > *I want to emphasize this is entirely optional, and not part of the > > exchange itself. * > > > > bye for now > > Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) > > Cdn. floral bobbins > > www.woodhavenbobbins.com > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] photos of cards from the exchange
A funny sidelight: Yesterday I wrote private email to Bev and ended with the fact that I'm just a short drive south. Well, that's partially true, but as Bev tactfully pointed out to me, the trip between our homes must also include a ferry ride! Blub, blub! ;-) This entitled Bev to make a small, and unimportant mistake, but since I love Snoqualmie (my adopted home of less than four years) so much, I will make the correction that I am not in Snohomish (also a nice place, considerably north and west of here). Barbara > Hi again > Barbara in Snohomish WA has offered to host pictures of the lace cards > we are sending - this is great, and if you want to have your lace > posted, you can send jpgs to her or me (and I'll pass them along). > > *I want to emphasize this is entirely optional, and not part of the > exchange itself. * > > bye for now > Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) > Cdn. floral bobbins > www.woodhavenbobbins.com > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] photos of cards from the exchange
Hi again Barbara in Snohomish WA has offered to host pictures of the lace cards we are sending - this is great, and if you want to have your lace posted, you can send jpgs to her or me (and I'll pass them along). *I want to emphasize this is entirely optional, and not part of the exchange itself. * bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Exchange rules
Hi Aurelia and lace list Indeed I was planning to post the rules again - once I had found my original message. Have switched to 'gmail' (via google) which has been fun, but frustrating - I think subscribing it to the lace list has been a true test. And I can't see all my sent mail :( Here are the 'rules' - ok, they're more like guidelines : The arrangement is people send me their names and mailing addresses and I assign thus: A sends to B, B sends to C etc. - that way you are in contact with two people. A few have asked to send to two people, but one recipient, one sender suits most. The minimum expectation of the exchange is a 'lace Christmas card' assuming the lace is handmade, and the card of a size and weight that will go the basic letter rate, first class or air mail. If you would like to see some of the cards exchanged last year, visit this link: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Make what you would like, enjoy what you receive ;) On 10/15/05, Aurelia Loveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Bev -- Are you planning to post the exchange rules again? > -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Kortelahti
At 05:14 AM 10/15/2005, you wrote: Alice, What are you tackling? I have just opened the roses book and am thinking of starting no 5 or 6. I'm making banquet decorations for next year's regional conference that we're hosting. I won't describe them because they are to be a surprise to the people who attend, and many Arachneans will be there. What stitch are you using? The ground diagrams in the bobbin lace book do not show what stitch is made above and below the pin except perhaps in grounds no. 3 and 4 (roundabout and ring grounds) which show cloth stitch, pin, (no twists), cloth stitch again and twists. You can use any ground stitch you want to, depending on the look you want to achieve. I've been using CT p CTTT. The number of twists will vary from 2 to 4 depending on the length of the line. It looks like EK uses mostly Torchon ground, CT p CT but some designs look more like CTCT p CTCT. I like the look of more twists between pins and a slimmer connection. CTT p CTT would look nice. It makes a definite pin hole. If you want less pin hole, use the Diepe stitch, CT p CTT. I used that stitch in the patten I designed. It makes a nice squared background and the pinholes disappear. If I'm following the book exactly on a pattern, I copy and enlarge the picture, then study it with a magnifying glass. This is a good idea on all EK's patterns. Some of them have some subtle thread paths that don't show on the pricking. I was told that EK designs the patterns, and sometimes has other people work the pattern for the sample. It's possible she doesn't specifiy what stitch, and lets the lacemaker decide for herself on some of them. Or she just likes to use different stitches in different pieces. Other people working the samples may be why some of her lace pictures don't exactly match the prickings. Most of them are fine. The candle bookmark (in another book) has an error. The first time through, it took me a while to figure it out. I added a line to the pricking, and have loved the pattern. I have probably made a couple dozen of them, over the years. You can use whatever ground stitch you want to. Just be consistent within one piece. Pattern 5 is lovely. CTT p CTT would work well on it. The headside fan already uses two twists before the outside passive. The double twist in the ground would look good with all the plaits that are also in the ground. It's a good stitch for this pattern. The technizue is generally straight forward Torchon, so go for it. Do, however, enlarge the center rose and look carefully where the extra twists are inserted. They are not marked on the pricking. Your rose will lose much definition if the twists are left out. You might want to mark the twists on the pricking before putting a plastic cover on it. Don't forget to add extra twists to the longer lines coming off the leaves. Pattern 6 would have the same instructions, except it doesn't have the twists in the center of the rosebud. By the way, I took just the rosebud and one leaf from this pattern to make a rose for a paperweight. I may have reduced it a bit to fit. Must get ready for a demo at a museum open house. It's been raining and the forecast is not good. HI see a bit of sun peeking through. Maybe it will be better than the forecast predicted. I'm glad I'm indoors, though. Have fun with your pattern. Alice in Oregon -- ready to feed the cats and load the car. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
Thanks for the encouraging words. But, being a real cheesehead, I will stay in my lurking mode. Have fun, and I will admire the pictures on the web. Ank - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
No, Chris, don't take offense. That surely doesn't represent the feeling of most of us textile-lovers. A knitted beauty, a tatted beauty, a crocheted beauty -- who wouldn't be happy to get one of those? And Tamara's idea of a "textile tree" has the typical obviousness of a genius-inspired idea: how didn't we think of it long ago? -- Aurelia As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that - I can only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first and most often practiced lace. I rather get the impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also not be appreciated by some - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Christmas exchange rules
Bev, would you mind announcing the Christmas exchange rules again? And how one might sign up for it? Thank you. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
Hello Ank, Please take part your partner will appreciate it. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
Hello Everybody, My point of view in this is another one. Somebody who perhaps don't know me and hasn't met yet and probably will never have the chance to met me personally is willing to make a little piece in bobbin-, needle lace or occhi or sometjhing else to please me. When I took part in this exchange I always got to the card with the selvemade piece a report where the lacemaker lives, what she/he likes, Last year how her family came to North America. So I learned a lot and feel more familiar when she/he is writing on the list. And all this is more worth than the specific sort of lace she/he did for me. And the next point is we aren't all equal skilled. So I would be happy with ever I get. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace samples and Witney Antiques Sampler Exhibition
Hello Alix, La fougère is in German Farnkraut fern in English Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Kortelahti
Alice, What are you tackling? I have just opened the roses book and am thinking of starting no 5 or 6. What stitch are you using? The ground diagrams in the bobbin lace book do not show what stitch is made above and below the pin except perhaps in grounds no. 3 and 4 (roundabout and ring grounds) which show cloth stitch, pin, (no twists), cloth stitch again and twists. I was tempted to use honeycomb stitch ( CTT pin CTT) but hesitated after looking at the grounds in her Bobbin Lace (Nyplattya Pitsia) book. What are you doing in your ground? Joyce Moes Lake Placid (Cairns, The tropical end of Australia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange
Tamara, I'm agnostic rather than atheist, but you've expressed my feeling exactly. The various exchanges we have within this group, Christmas card, secret pal or anything else is about *giving* just as much as it is about receiving. Yes, of course it's nice to receive but that's an implicit part of the giving. What these exchanges are really about is love and friendship between lacemakers around the world and it's the thought and effort that goes into making something that really counts. The rules say a card with handmade lace but that doesn't stop you including something else as well. Most people on this list have skills and talents beyond lacemaking. Several years ago in an Arachne card exchange I received a fantastic card from Canada (don't think Liliane is still subscribed). The lace was simple, a braid lace tree, but it was mounted onto a watercolour painting and has little glittery stars etc glued on. I added a matte and put it into a frame and it comes out each year and is hung on the wall for a few weeks. I too have a growing collection of lacey Christmas items. Maybe it's time to display them all together instead of scattered around. Brenda On 15 Oct 2005, at 02:57, Tamara P Duvall wrote: As an atheist, I place a bit less value on the Christmastime as sharing time than most, but I too was dismayed by the somewhat mean-spirited (Scroogy? ) undertones of some of the postings. The exchange isn't compulsory, so it is, I think, a given, that everyone who signs up does the best they can - and that's what counts; not what you _get_, but what you _give_. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace in the news
Maybe there's hope for the fashion world after all. I noticed that one piece of advice is "steer clear of synthetics." I wish there were more pictures, as I don't have time right now to search for the items mentioned. Anne in Austin TX - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: [lace] lace in the news > A friend alerted me to the following article, available online... > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/main.jhtml?xml=/fashion/2005/10/12/eflace12.xml > > > Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
