[lace] lace discolouration
Hi Ricky What a nusciance about the lace. It is awful when you look forward to getting something you bought and find it like that when it arrives. I was just wondering, you know those little blue bags you used to be able to get everywhere for net curtains can they be used if you can find them. Good Luck Wendy St Dogmaels _ All new Live Search at Live.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] new to me
Hello ALice I've been making leaves in white cotton - White DMC Dentelle 100 Do you mean DMC Special Dentelles 100, or DMC Fil a Dentelles 100? I've never seen/heard of either. Or do you mean DMC Cordonnet 100 ? Years ago I tried painting fabric dye onto white lace - it worked but left soft edges at the colour changes. I guess a felt pen would give much more precise results Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace discolouration
Reckits Blue Bags! NO! They bring the laundry up looking "whiter" but it's impossible to subsequently was hit out and in time it makes the fabric look grey. When I was a child Mum received quite a lot of sheets etc from Grandma and they had all been washed many times and whitened with blue bags. You could always tell if the sheets on the bed ere from Grandma's by the grey colour. Not to mention the fact that the blue is actually ground up lapiz lazuli (low quality) and the tiny granules have sharp edges which can cause damage to the fibres of the fabric. Brenda On 29 Jun 2008, at 10:48, Wendy Davies wrote: What a nusciance about the lace. It is awful when you look forward to getting something you bought and find it like that when it arrives. I was just wondering, you know those little blue bags you used to be able to get everywhere for net curtains can they be used if you can find them. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace discolouration
If you are going to try and wash it, I suggest the following method: Boil rainwater and leave to cool completely; this ensures that any critters in the water are dead. If there are "bits" floating in the water, you may have to strain these out first through a cloth. Once cooled, soak the lace in the water. As lace is very fragile, especially when wet, put it into a pillowcase or similar. You can safely add a squeeze of lemon juice which has a mild bleaching effect without damaging your fabric. The dirt will start to discolour the water, and you may have to repeat this a couple of times, depending on how discoloured it is. Do not squeeze or swirl the fabric, just leave it to soak. If you have added lemon juice, you may need to rinse it gently a couple of times in plain water to ensure that no residue has stayed behind. Once you get to the point where you think it is as clean as it will ever be, take it out of the water and lay flat on a white towel or similar on a drying rack. Gently ensure it is laid in shape, without tuggng the fabric. It is a delicate job, requiring patience and time, and the results vary depending on the type of discolouration or marks. Whatever you do, do not use Reckitt's blue! Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Having a break from repotting house plants - there are just too many. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] new to me
Hi Fellow Arachneans You can now buy fabric pens. Never tried them on lace, but have used on clothing to great effect (when my Mum used to stain her tee shirts she had Altzheimers... I used to disguise the marks with fabric pens!!) Sue in EY On 29 Jun 2008, at 12:19, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Years ago I tried painting fabric dye onto white lace - it worked but left soft edges at the colour changes. I guess a felt pen would give much more precise results - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace discolouration
I wouldn't recommend Reckitts Bag Blue either, for exactly the same reason! I used to use a non-bleach form of nappy cleaner for my daughters clothes when she was a baby, but the particular brand I used is no longer available, it was a powder that dissolved completely in warm water. If I come up with a solution I'll let you know! Sue in EY On 29 Jun 2008, at 12:24, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Reckits Blue Bags! NO! They bring the laundry up looking "whiter" but it's impossible to subsequently was hit out and in time it makes the fabric look grey. When I was a child Mum received quite a lot of sheets etc from Grandma and they had all been washed many times and whitened with blue bags. You could always tell if the sheets on the bed ere from Grandma's by the grey colour. Not to mention the fact that the blue is actually ground up lapiz lazuli (low quality) and the tiny granules have sharp edges which can cause damage to the fibres of the fabric. Brenda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] lace discolouration
I have followed this discussion with fascination, amazing what we now know that granny didn't. Still most of their stuff was servicable sheets etc and I suppose a bit like the ladies using lead make up way back, not necessarily as good as it might appear. thanks for you wonderful insight. Sue T Dorset UK I wouldn't recommend Reckitts Bag Blue either, for exactly the same reason! I used to use a non-bleach form of nappy cleaner for my daughters clothes when she was a baby, but the particular brand I used is no longer available, it was a powder that dissolved completely in warm water. If I come up with a solution I'll let you know! Sue in EY Reckits Blue Bags! NO! They bring the laundry up looking "whiter" but it's impossible to subsequently was hit out and in time it makes the fabric look grey. When I was a child Mum received quite a lot of sheets etc from Grandma and they had all been washed many times and whitened with blue bags. You could always tell if the sheets on the bed ere from Grandma's by the grey colour. Not to mention the fact that the blue is actually ground up lapiz lazuli (low quality) and the tiny granules have sharp edges which can cause damage to the fibres of the fabric. Brenda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace safari in Croatia No 7 - Pag lace
One of our reasons for staying in Zadar was its compartive proximity to the Island of Pag. We very much wanted to see the Pag lace being worked. We had already seen examples in the Museums. A two hour bus journey would take us there, but with return buses limited to two, the first at 2pm and the other at 6pm. The island is almost completely bare of trees and a few sheep graze the barren ground, their milk being made into a famous cheese. It was extremely hot when we walked round the harbour to the town, another example of very narrow streets paved with smooth cobbles. A notice pointed to the Lace Centre - but when we got there it was closed! Enquiries at the Information Bureau told us it would not open until the 'Season' and no one knew when that would start - maybe in July, or later at Festival time. However, we did find a shop selling the Pag lace, but understanably expensive. We bought a booklet, but no lace and brave Pauline asked if I could take photos of it. They all came out well. Our guide books said old ladies could be found working in the doorways on the narrow streets. We found two, but they were doing crochet. Perhaps the Guide book thinks it is 'tatting' !!! However, some Pag lace was for sale and Pauling bought a small piece. We searched the whole town, but no more lace at all, so we whiled away the hours waiting for the 6pm bus, eating delicious ice-cream by the harbour. Our booklet told us that Pag lace is a needle-lace, developed from early Reticella lace, where threads are withdrawn from fabric and the remainder buttonhole-stitched over. Nowadays the fabric is dispensed with and the geometric square or circular patterns are worked over foundation threads. In the museums, white blouses and head-dresses were decorated with the Reticella type Pag lace. These head-cloths developed from 16th century fashions and the hems had an extension border of Russian-type bobbin lace. Angela -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3049 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: lace ID
Sorry for the late reply to this message, but I have been abroad and am only beginning to catch up with mail today. Robin you are almost right about the English Stitch - it is Punt Ingliż. It is called English Stitch because of the resemblance to the design of the white lines on the English flag. As regards this piece of lace, I don't think it is Maltese at all, although the leaf fronds do look like what we would use in older patterns of Maltese lace. We don't use gimps. Also, English stitch is not done using plaits, the threads are only twisted. Another strange thing is that there seems to be some other stitch incorporated into the ground that resembles English stitch. At most, it could be a piece that was worked incorporating techniques from other laces - as I sometimes do to "jazz up" a simple piece, hence the gimp. Also, since there are lots of threads because of the cloth stitch motifs, the lace maker could possibly have used plaits to take the pairs from one motif to another without having to cut and then add pairs again for the next motif. This is something we do, but not usually in English stitch or boll stitch because then there would be too many pairs to work into the centre of the stitch. I must admit that when I saw the pictures of the piece they had me stumped as well. Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:49 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Re: lace ID Kathryn Nuttall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Once you see the whole thing, it stops looking like Brugge/Duchesse. I thought it had a faint resemblance to something like Binche, but only because of the large variety of stitch patterns. It reminds me of modern Maltese/Gozo lace, which does have a Beds/Cluny flavor. It's significantly different from the antique Maltese we are more familiar with. The closeup of the plaited ground reminds me of Punt Inglizi (I think that's the name and spelling, translates as "English stitch"). I expect Karen in Malta will be able to confirm or correct my impression. I only saw Punt Inglizi once. just a suggestion, Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Colouring with pens
While I am all for using any technique that will produce the finish you are looking for - a word of caution when colouring threads. How long do you wish the item to last? If it is short term, a few years, then go ahead with the pens. However, if you wish it to be an heirloom the chemicals in the ink may rot the thread. Even properly used fabric dyes can affect threads. The old black dye rotted the threads so that little black lace remains and I once had a striped tea towel and after a few years all the blue threads disintegrated leaving the white strips. However, good luck, I hope it turns out well. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: [lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers
Rhiannon said: I know its a firm-ish fact that the lacemaking craft is practised by the older Generation... This gave me a good giggle because when I started learning and working lace in Malta at the age of 19, many people used to say, "...but you're too young to work lace..." Never mind, that I first started knitting and crochet at the age of about 8... Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rhiannon Mann Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:11 PM To: arachne Subject: [!! SPAM] RE: [lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers > Brenda SAID: "Much of the reason for the decline in lace days is due to there being more old lacemakers dropping off the end than there are new ones coming along." Rhiannon ADDS: I know its a firm-ish fact that the lacemaking craft is practised by the older generation but I just wanted to let you know that I'm trying to spread the wonders of lacemaking to my generation of crafty people too- Even though I'm approaching 30 (far too rapidly) I look at it like I have plenty of time to try and learn some fantastic types of lace (even though I'm currently consumed with progressing in Bucks). I also recall from the classes in various locations I have resided across the south of England and didn't feel the average age was as high as it had seemed at lace events. I think GENERALLY those who attend weekend lace fairs/days are available at different times and not otherwise engaged with things such as family which may be more flexible for evening classes. That may be a bit of oil in the fire with my generalising there but I can say I enjoyed all the fairs I attended when resident in England. Just need to organise myself over here now!! PS- thanks to everyone who came to my aid in reference to translations; i'm looking into doing the "carton cle de sol" by Claudine Beuvain. I had identified some stiches by eye but just wanted clarification! Keep on lace-ing Rhiannon (blustery Co Meath; Eire) _ Windows Live Spaces your life, your Space. Click here to find out more. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Agnes & lace discolouration
Dear Agnes, If you have added lemon juice, you may need to rinse it gently a couple of times in plain water to ensure that no residue has stayed behind. Once you get to the point where you think it is as clean as it will ever be, take it out of the water and lay flat on a white towel or similar on a drying rack. Gently ensure it is laid in shape, without tuggng the fabric. I agree with you whole heartedly. However, I was always taught that the bleaching effect of lemon juice is activated by sunlight. That's why whenever I've used your method I always put the flat lace/fabric etc. out in the sunshine. Works a treat David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Agnes & lace discolouration
Hi All In England you'll be lucky to see the sun!!! It's in liquid form here (in other words, it keeps raining!!!) Sue On 29 Jun 2008, at 17:40, David in Ballarat wrote: Dear Agnes, If you have added lemon juice, you may need to rinse it gently a couple of times in plain water to ensure that no residue has stayed behind. Once you get to the point where you think it is as clean as it will ever be, take it out of the water and lay flat on a white towel or similar on a drying rack. Gently ensure it is laid in shape, without tuggng the fabric. I agree with you whole heartedly. However, I was always taught that the bleaching effect of lemon juice is activated by sunlight. That's why whenever I've used your method I always put the flat lace/fabric etc. out in the sunshine. Works a treat David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Fan edging
Hi Wendy and all. I had a very good tip from Geraldine Stott when I was at a weekend Bucks lacemaking course at Belstead House about fans and have used it successfully ever since - work to the outside pair and pin up but before you return take the pair in two hands and open them one up and one down and lay them down and continue, believe me it works, perfect round curves every time. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1522 - Release Date: 27/06/2008 08:27 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Declining Lace Day Numbers
Evening Spiders I can relate to part of this too I was 5 when I learned to knit and 10 when I taught myself to crochet (I'm left handed). I learned most other crafts before I left school and since school I've had a go at japanese silk flowermaking, sugarcraft etc, and 35 years after I left school I started learning lace! Sue in EY On 29 Jun 2008, at 17:21, Karen wrote: This gave me a good giggle because when I started learning and working lace in Malta at the age of 19, many people used to say, "...but you're too young to work lace..." Never mind, that I first started knitting and crochet at the age of about 8... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
