Re: [lace] thread help needed

2009-05-10 Thread Jane O'Connor
Thanks Brenda. I never thought of looking in the synthetic/rayon threads. 
 Jane O'Connor 
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New Lenox, IL USA 


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From: Brenda Paternoster

To: Jane O'Connor 
Cc:
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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [lace]
thread help needed

Hello Jane

Madeira Decor is a thick rayon floss, 15
wraps/cm and has been in Threads for Lace since Ed 1 (though the size, which
is No 6, isn't included!)

Metallic 40 is either Madeira 40, a fine wrapped
thread, 35 w/cm, or Moravia metallic . another wrapped hread but much thicker
at 20 w/cm, or signature SN another wrapped thread, 37 w/cm - or something I
haven't seen!  The Madeira is the most likely.

Brenda

On 10 May 2009, at
17:09, Jane O'Connor wrote:

> Can someone help me with the wraps or
thicknesses of these two threads.
> They come from a 'sGravenmoer pattern and
I cannot find them listed in
> Brenda's book. Madeira Decor number 6 and a
metallic thread number 40. I
> wonder if these are embroidery threads.
> 
>
Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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[lace] larger pillows/table

2009-05-10 Thread Janice Blair
Brenda wrote:


I made a D shaped pillow to fit my suitcase by sawing off the back edge of a
pillow made of builders foam.  I also cut out a rectangle from the center back
so I could insert ethafoam blocks.  My purpose was to be able to use the
pillow should I ever have two different classes as conventions.  It worked
fine but I think next time I would carve the edge down more around the front
and sides to make it more comfortable when working.  I mounted the whole thing
on a thick cardboard base covered with faux suede and put a decorative braid
around the whole pillow and extended that across the gap at the back.  This
held the block in place when I pinned the braid to the block and pillow. 
Maybe some enterprising supplier will start making lightweight suitcase shaped
pillows.

Talking about travelling to conventions, I just invested money in a folding
laptop "Table tote".  The legs can be extended to any height, 12 inches to 29
inches, (at the moment it is just right for sitting on the sofa to make
lace).  The whole thing weighs less than 3 lbs and is about the size of a
laptop.  The surface can be extended by using the lid and I have put a 22"
pillow on it.  It probably would not withstand the cat test.  It even has an
extending document holder that could be used to hold diagrams.  I will be
testing it this year at convention if I get into a bobbin lace class.  I think
the price is about $50 but we got a discount and free shipping because my
guild sent a group order.

Janice



Janice Blair

Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

www.jblace.com

http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] thread help needed

2009-05-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Jane

Madeira Decor is a thick rayon floss, 15 wraps/cm and has been in 
Threads for Lace since Ed 1 (though the size, which is No 6, isn't 
included!)


Metallic 40 is either Madeira 40, a fine wrapped thread, 35 w/cm, or 
Moravia metallic . another wrapped hread but much thicker at 20 w/cm, 
or signature SN another wrapped thread, 37 w/cm - or something I 
haven't seen!  The Madeira is the most likely.


Brenda

On 10 May 2009, at 17:09, Jane O'Connor wrote:


Can someone help me with the wraps or thicknesses of these two threads.
They come from a 'sGravenmoer pattern and I cannot find them listed in
Brenda's book. Madeira Decor number 6 and a metallic thread number 40. 
I

wonder if these are embroidery threads.




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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Re: [lace] Felt on big pillows

2009-05-10 Thread dewitt
I used 1/2" wool felt from an reed organ repair/supply company, to cover my
foam pillows. I can't remember what company I used, but I googled and found
http://www.organsupply.com/. They may have what you need or may know where
to find it.
Lynn

~~ Empress Lynn, Co-Ruler of the Dewitt Empire, Czaritsa to the State of
Procrastination, Queen of the Mountain of Laundry people, Ruler of the Sea
of Dishes, Scourge of the Dust Bunny Herds, Destroyer of Cobwebs, Milk
Smeller to the Emperor, and other titles much too numerous to mention


On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Beth Marshall  wrote:

> Sue
>
> Do you know what density the felt you use is?

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[lace] Exhibition in Lewes

2009-05-10 Thread Laceandbits
The easiest way to find out about it is to look in the arachne archives - 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace%40arachne.com/ 

And please, pretty please, can I remind people to keep the subject header 
relevant to the contents, and changed as the posts evolve, otherwise vast 
swathes of the archive are useless.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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[lace] Exhibition in Lewes

2009-05-10 Thread Angela
Hi
I was quickly going through my e-mails and gaily deleting the ones I didn't
need to read when I noticed one from Rosemary Brown about an exhibition in
Lewes. Unfortunately I had deleted the whole page by mistake  so was unable to
read it.  Please, Rosemary, could you re-post it so that I can give it my full
attention.
Thanks
Angela

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Re: [lace] Felt on big pillows

2009-05-10 Thread Beth Marshall
Sue

Do you know what density the felt you use is? I've been gogling for 
engineering felt suppliers nearer here, and they all seem to stock a range of 
different densities as well as different thicknesses.

I reckon the density will be fairly important for lacemaking use - too dense 
and fine pins won't go into it without bending, too lightweight and it won't 
support the pins well enough.

I've spotted one UK supplier whose website proclaims "no order too small" so 
if I can work out what density I need I'll enquire about their prices.

Happy lacemaking everyone

Beth 

Sue Fink wrote:
> Diane Z asked about the felt I use on my pillow.  Our understanding is that
> it is used by engineers and in car engines, but don't ask me more than
> that!!  It is about 1 cm thick and 2 metres wide and you buy the length you
> want as you would material.  It is expensive, but because it is so wide
> several of us usually buy together and so get a piece that we can afford!
> In NZ it comes from NZ Felt Supplies Ltd., but I have no idea where it
> would be available in other countries.  We use it on our pillows and find
> it is just so easy to move lace; it also protects the pillows and lets them
> live longer.  It does need something under it to support it, which is why
> we still use pillows!
>

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Re: [lace] silk and Z twist

2009-05-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Sue

Guetermann silk is spun silk which is less slippery than filament silk, 
and cloth stitch is balanced (2 crosses and 2 twists per CTC) so I 
doubt you will have much trouble with it twisting.  Also if you are 
making something which is to be applique mounted or framed there is 
less chance of curling becoming a problem because the mounting will 
hold it in place.


If you are in doubt either work a small sample piece (which will help 
you get the hang of the stitch sequences in the braids anyway) and take 
the pins out.  You will soon see if there is a problem!


Brenda

On 10 May 2009, at 09:54, Sue wrote:

I am about to work my whole stitch braids with gutterman silk, which 
is what I have in my box, which the book tells me is a Z twist.


Is there any special difference in the way I will handle it apart from 
working on getting good tension and good pinning?   I am going to work 
ovals and was thinking maybe figure of 8 as well with the cloth stitch 
to start and end.  I am hoping that the twists with help hold it all 
in place.  !!
I dont think I have used a Z twist before.  ( The only sample piece I 
have in my folder which has twisted is a small sample I tried with a 
polyester because I liked the colour for my napkins, but didn't like 
the way it worked).
I have just two more pairs of bobbins to wind today before I pin the 
pattern to the pillow,   who got too much help last night to allow 
me to get going then.

Sue T


.
Were you with Arachne when we discussed curly lace a year or so ago?

After numerous trial and error pieces the conclusion was that half
stitch puts more Z twists into the lace than S twists, and with a
tightly twisted Z spun thread, especially of it's shiny and slippery
all the torque in the Z direction causes the finished lace to spiral in
the opposite way, ie S direction.

See:
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/curlylace/curlylace.html

Brenda

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[lace] silk and Z twist

2009-05-10 Thread Sue
I am about to work my whole stitch braids with gutterman silk, which is what 
I have in my box, which the book tells me is a Z twist.


Is there any special difference in the way I will handle it apart from 
working on getting good tension and good pinning?   I am going to work ovals 
and was thinking maybe figure of 8 as well with the cloth stitch to start 
and end.  I am hoping that the twists with help hold it all in place.  !!
I dont think I have used a Z twist before.  ( The only sample piece I have 
in my folder which has twisted is a small sample I tried with a polyester 
because I liked the colour for my napkins, but didn't like the way it 
worked).
I have just two more pairs of bobbins to wind today before I pin the pattern 
to the pillow,   who got too much help last night to allow me to get 
going then.

Sue T


.
Were you with Arachne when we discussed curly lace a year or so ago?

After numerous trial and error pieces the conclusion was that half
stitch puts more Z twists into the lace than S twists, and with a
tightly twisted Z spun thread, especially of it's shiny and slippery
all the torque in the Z direction causes the finished lace to spiral in
the opposite way, ie S direction.

See:
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/curlylace/curlylace.html

Brenda

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Re: [lace] larger pillows

2009-05-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just yesterday I set up a piece on a 24" octagonal pillow.  It's not a 
particularly big pattern; a piece of torchon I said I'd design for a 
future YLM pattern book, but that was the pillow available and as I was 
positioning the pricking I though that I wouldn't be using the back 
third of the pillow at all.


Maybe I'll have a go some time at making a D shaped pillow, it would 
appear that there's a need and a gap in the market for D shaped 
flat/cookie lace pillows.


Brenda


On 9 May 2009, at 21:18, Alice Howell wrote:

I like working on a 20" cookie pillow for smaller projects.  I find 
that the far 4-5 inches of the pillow are not used much.  The 20" 
pillow won't fit in a suitcase very well.  One day I tried cutting a 
slice off the back of a pillow to make the front to back measurement 
less than 18" to fit a suitcase better.  It worked well.  And I found 
that I really liked using the pillow.  That missing part on the far 
side was not missed.


I'm going to try it on a 24" pillow since I have an extra one on hand. 
 I'll cut off the far edge so I have 17.5" depth left, but will have 
more room on each side than on the 20"pillow.  It should hold more 
bobbins.




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

2009-05-10 Thread Alice Howell
Yes, your cat would dump your pillow off a table that sizemine did.  I was 
using a TV tray table, about the same size as a Tablemate and the pillow 
extended beyond the table.  My cat tried to use it as a stepping stone to the 
cat tower.  He got yelled at, but my pillow was still upside down.   Since you 
have such a critter around, you might want to look for a slightly larger table 
that can support the whole pillow (and the cat also, if necessary.)

Generally, the Tablemates are considered good -- sturdy enough for a lace 
pillow.   It's nice for transporting because it folds up and is not really 
heavy.   Be sure it's a real Tablemate, though.  There are some knockoff tables 
that aren't as good.  I got caught with one of those.  The tabletop does not 
fasten so it's flat.  There's always a slant so things slide off.  And it's 
harder to adjust the legs.  You want to be able to adjust the table without six 
tools and a strongman.

The lacemakers here like the adjustable table made by Rubbermaid or Lifetime 
with a table size about 20 x 30..  It adjusts to four different heights, and is 
very sturdy.  My cat leaps on and off it without any problem.  It's great for 
local demos but would not travel on a plane to a conference.  It doesn't fold 
up as small as a Tablemate and would not fit in a suitcase.

Consider carefully just how you would use the table. where and when.  Then get 
the table that best suits your own purposes.

Alice in Oregon




- Original Message 
From: Beth Marshall 
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:39:29 AM
Subject: [lace] Pillow stands (was: larger pillows)

Tamara's reference to the Table-mate reminds me of a question I'd been meaning 
to ask:

The Table-mate available on Amazon UK has a usable surface 22" wde by 16.75" 
deep, so my 18"/20"/22" pillows would overhang the back of the table.
Given that once bobbins are hung in the weight of the pillow is more at the 
front of the pillow than the back, would one of these tables be stable with a 
large pillow on? Has anyone tried one and found out?

(And what might happen when my fairly heavy young cat jumps onto the back of 
the pillow to "help"? Though ending up on the floor under a fairly heavy 
pillow a couple of times should cure even Silly Sid of leaping before he 
looks!)

Beth
Cheshire, UK

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[lace] Pillow stands (was: larger pillows)

2009-05-10 Thread Beth Marshall
Tamara's reference to the Table-mate reminds me of a question I'd been meaning 
to ask:

The Table-mate available on Amazon UK has a usable surface 22" wde by 16.75" 
deep, so my 18"/20"/22" pillows would overhang the back of the table.
Given that once bobbins are hung in the weight of the pillow is more at the 
front of the pillow than the back, would one of these tables be stable with a 
large pillow on? Has anyone tried one and found out?

(And what might happen when my fairly heavy young cat jumps onto the back of 
the pillow to "help"? Though ending up on the floor under a fairly heavy 
pillow a couple of times should cure even Silly Sid of leaping before he 
looks!)

Beth
Cheshire, UK


I am short, too -- 5'2" -- but love big pillows because of all that 
room to spread the bobbins (even 12 pairs can use some room to breathe 
). What I've learnt is that, if the pillow sits really low, I can 
bend over it at the hips, rather than at the waist, which gives me an 
extra 3-4" of reach. This has another advantage as well -- my arms 
don't get as tired working, because they're fairly close to my lap (the 
most restful position), instead of being raised.

But, of course, that means having the pillow sitting on an adjustable 
stand, not at a standard height table. It's one of the resaons that I'm 
reluctant to go to workshops which are beyond a sensible driving range 
(8-10hrs maximum); my large Table-mate would not travel well on a plane 
(and neither would a large pillow, any more)

Tamara P Duvall   

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