Re: [lace] Lace Guild Competition
Well done! That's fab. It's an amazing feeling isn't it? Congratulations. Claire Kent, UK Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:11, Jane Partridge wrote: > Congratulations, Claire, I'll see you at the presentation > > For anyone interested, this is the link to my class' entry which has also > been successful... > > http://www.cig.canon-europe.com/p?p=GvZGamYKtyJ > > Phil thought I'd had a large spider land in front of me when I opened the > attachment from the Editor of Lace to proof read the prize winners' page a > week or so back - I didn't expect it to win anything, but now I have it in > writing, too. > > > -- > Jane Partridge > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] OOPS! Lace Competition
Oops, Jane, - SO sorry, I mistook Class entry for Group entry. I now realize your Carousel was all your own work, -- which makes it even more stunning. It is Gorgeous, and I marvel at your inventiveness. Very well done. I look forward to our next UK Lace which, I hope, will have Lots of photos of the competition entries. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Another Prize winner
Congratulations Jane and your Group. That Carousel is Gorgeous. Well done to you all. What a clever idea and so well turned into a lovely lace project. Very clever, and a prize well deserved. Regards from Liz in freezing Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] waterlily kudos!
For Claire--May I add my congratulations!?! Milanese--beautifully worked, good choice of braids. Monet-esque--worthy of the master's lagoon at Giverny. Mmm, mmm good. Thanks for the eye candy! Susan, just coming out of the basement in Erie, PA where we've had tornado warnings - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace Guild Competition
Congratulations, Claire, I'll see you at the presentation For anyone interested, this is the link to my class' entry which has also been successful... http://www.cig.canon-europe.com/p?p=GvZGamYKtyJ Phil thought I'd had a large spider land in front of me when I opened the attachment from the Editor of Lace to proof read the prize winners' page a week or so back - I didn't expect it to win anything, but now I have it in writing, too. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] RE; lace Guild Competition - Thank you
A bit late in posting, Claire, but just wanted to add my congratulations to you for a beautiful piece of lace. A well deserved award. Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Nancy's Flanders--more questions
Hi Ilske, Thanks for your comments. The relative thickness of the thread is part of why I was wondering how certain we could be about the age of the lace. The thread is thinner than it perhaps appears in the pictures, however--the width of the lace is 5 cm, if that helps when viewing the sections. For comparison, I've found a few pictures in Wesenberg's "Binche-Spitzen" that are interesting. On page 6 is a comparable lace with 5-hole ground (no gimp) and only slightly finer thread--dated 1730. Page 33 shows a simple lace (undated because it was such a common design) with picots with none, or 1 or 2 twists at most, like mine. And page 64 shows lace (dated only as "early Binche" that I think is of a similar scale/similar thread size to mine. Perhaps mine was intended for the end of a baby's christening gown? which would be somewhere between the finest laces on clothes of wealthy men & women and the coarser household linens lace. (and if for a modest christening gown but never used, it was probably for very sad reasons.) The other question I have about late 19th-century bobbin laces is whether they were like the needle laces, which were very finely done to be in competition with machine-made laces (info from Devon Thein here). Or were there still bobbin laces made in a hurry when machines were doing laces so effectively? I suppose my sample could be early 19th C rather than mid-18th C? but for what use would it then be intended? A day dress perhaps? Based on Jane Austen movies :-) I didn't think wider laces were used much in the early 1800's--or do I have my dates wrong? --Nancy, with more & more questions! (and still hoping my lace is mid-18th C :-) Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA - From: Ilske Thomsen ilske-peter-thom...@t-online.de ... it looks as if it is from 19th century because of the gimp and the thickness of the thread. There exist Flanders laces with thicker thread from earlier time too used for bed- and table-linen not for dresses. The picots and the edge aren't worked properly as the lace was done in a hurry, what could be a sign for 19th century too, but must not. ... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Somebody using my email address!
"Note: Due to a wave of good people getting their-email addresses hijacked, I no longer sign my e-mails with my real name." Villandra ***"somebody used my email address to put an obscene message out in my name. Please ignore it. Perhaps best not to open it, as it may contain a virus." Aurelia ***With the economy, they say these things are increasing. A good idea to change one's passwords regularly, and check your "Sent" box to see if there are things you don't recognize. Best,Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Nancy's Flanders
Dear Nancy and Lorelei, indeed this is a beautiful piece of lace. Thank you for the pictures on our album the first one wasn't clear enough. I know that you, Lorelei have a lot of knowledge about old laces therefore I hesitated to answer. But after all I learned it looks as if it is from 19th century because of the gimp and the thickness of the thread. There exist Flanders laces with thicker thread from earlier time too used for bed- and table-linen not for dresses. The picots and the edge aren't worked properly as the lace was done in a hurry, what could be a sign for 19th century too, but must not. It's only my two cents.. Greetings, Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Nancy's Flanders
Hi Nancy, Lorelei, and others who have contributed to this thread... I've just returned home from another week at "Lace at Sweet Briar", and so have not been reading my email. This thread was delightful to find, and - as usual - Lorelei has given us a great summary of information. I've recently acquired another remarkable book which sheds new light on the early Belgian laces. It is "Van speldengrond tot Turnhoutse kant", a compilation of articles by Nora Andries and others, which describe the laces made in Turnhout. Scholars of old Belgian laces have often noted that there is cross-over of features among the different lace, and this makes it difficult to give a definitive "type" to some of the laces. In this book about Turnhout, the writers explain that while the principle trade centers for Belgian Lace in the 18th century were Antwerpt and Mechlin, many of the laces were actually produced in smaller villages surrounding these centers. Turnhout was one of these villages, and... they produced a number of laces, not named for their home of origin, but for the market for which they were produced! It is easy to see how lacemakers in such a village might "borrow" techniques or styles from other laces. This is a copiously illustrated book, with a translation included with the price of the book. Sadly, the translation only covers a few of the chapters, but I've been using Google Translate to give me a sense of the other chapters. I highly recommend this (expensive) book for any avid student of Belgian laces. Clay ... exhausted, but very pleased to have survived another week at Sweet Briar. On 6/27/2010 8:40 AM, Nancy Neff wrote: Lorelei, Thank you so much for the long helpful post! I don't have my Santina Levy here and what I read was too long ago for my memory these days. Especially helpful is your comparison between the historian's viewpoint and the lacemaker's--one that I really hadn't thought about and yet is obviously part of my puzzle once it is pointed out. Thank you again. Arachne is so great for getting info in a flash!! Nancy Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com place the date around the middle Santina Levy does not speak of Flanders ground laces, but calls all the 18th century laces with gimp "Mechlin" and tells us that this lace (produced near Mechlin) could have had any one of several grounds, including Flanders, Mechlin, Binche snowballs & snowflakes, Valenciennes, Binche snowballs in half stitch, Paris ground. If you follow Ulrika Lohr, who thinks like a lacemaker and is therefore primarly interested in structure (what traditional form does a lacemaker have to be familiar with in order to reproduce this lace), one would call it "old Flanders". - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Nancy's Flanders
Lorelei, Thank you so much for the long helpful post! I don't have my Santina Levy here and what I read was too long ago for my memory these days. Especially helpful is your comparison between the historian's viewpoint and the lacemaker's--one that I really hadn't thought about and yet is obviously part of my puzzle once it is pointed out. Thank you again. Arachne is so great for getting info in a flash!! Nancy Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com place the date around the middle Santina Levy does not speak of Flanders ground laces, but calls all the 18th century laces with gimp "Mechlin" and tells us that this lace (produced near Mechlin) could have had any one of several grounds, including Flanders, Mechlin, Binche snowballs & snowflakes, Valenciennes, Binche snowballs in half stitch, Paris ground. If you follow Ulrika Lohr, who thinks like a lacemaker and is therefore primarly interested in structure (what traditional form does a lacemaker have to be familiar with in order to reproduce this lace), one would call it "old Flanders". - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] lace identification question
Hi Cindy, Yes, I totally agree with you about this seller--she's terrific and offers stellar pieces. I didn't mean to imply anything negative about her. Just that I didn't know why something was called one thing vs another. And the lace is so crisp and in such good condition (only one hole that I've seen in the entire length) that it could have been made yesterday--I can hardly believe my luck in getting a piece that old in that condition. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify about the seller. I too am merely a very satisfied customer. Nancy Neff Connecticut, USA From: Cindy Rusak cru...@gmail.com this seller is pretty knowledgeable about lace and usually sells quality pieces. I have bought from her in the past and have also had communications with her about pieces she has for sale. Unlike other sellers on eBay she does listen to and considers other people's opinions and expertise. No affiliation with her, just a satisfied customer, . - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] RE; lace Guild Competition - Thank you
I just wanted to say thank you so much to everyone that has sent messages over the last few days regarding my lace and it's award. I have been staggered by the response and there have been just too many to be able to reply to you all individually. Also, a huge thank you to Jacquie Tinch (Lincoln, UK) for her help, and support, input and advice throughout the working of this piece as she has been instrumental in helping to take my lacemaking to 'the next level'. And of course thanks must go to Pat Read who taught me to make lace and instilled my love of Milanese. I have been so lucky to have had the most fabulous teachers. This really has been an incredible few days. Claire Kent, UK Where her head has grown so big, she not sure if she can get out of the front door. Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
