Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread pam
Some of my favourite bobbins were made by Tim Parker in the early  
80's. At the time he was teaching woodwork at the local boys school.  
When he gave up teaching he became a general supplier and sadly  
stopped turning bobbins a little while later. I believe Paul Durst  
passed away in the late 80´s, I have a couple of his bobbins which are  
nearly always on a pillow. Archer bone bobbins are always on a pillow  
along with some wooden one made Ray Brown who was the husband of my  
lace teacher all those years ago. Diane Miller´s painted bobbins  
always get loads of admiration at Lace Days.


Using bobbins when you know who made them always makes making lace  
more personal and, for me, more pleasurable. I often amaze people who  
admire my bobbins by telling them all about the person who made them.


Pam Mattioli
in sunny southern Spain

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[lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Sheila Brown
  It would be nice if  we   posted the names of bobbin makers from whom 
we have bought bobbins,  so that a list could be compiled which took in 
all bobbin makers.
Sheila in Sawbo' where we are waiting for more rain and it's cold!

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Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Sue Duckles

That's easy most of mine are from

Sixpenny Bobbins!!

Sue in EY
On 28 Sep 2010, at 11:37, Alan  Sheila Brown wrote:


 It would be nice if  we   posted the names of bobbin makers from whom
we have bought bobbins,  so that a list could be compiled which took  
in

all bobbin makers.
Sheila in Sawbo' where we are waiting for more rain and it's cold!

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[lace] Shiffu bracelet

2010-09-28 Thread pene piip
 I'm in the process of starting the Shiffu bracelet on pages 22-23 in 
Schmuck Parures.

The authors are Anita Dajcar-Florin  Catherine Lambert. Published 1997.
Has anyone else made this bracelet?
I'm trying work out if there is another way to add the beads.
I was also wondering if it can be made without adding  taking out a 
pair when

starting each new diamond shaped section.

This book is in German  French hence the title. I translated the French 
section to find out
that Shiffu originates from Japan and Nepal, is made from paper so it is 
supple  washable
but doesn't have a lot of body like linen  is used to make traditional 
clothing.

Does anyone know anything about this fibre?
I couldn't find it in Brenda's Threads for Lace book.
Maybe it should be included?

Thanks in advance,
Pene in a wet  cooler Tartu, Estonia

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Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Malvary J Cole
I have lots of bobbins made by Alan Hazel.  He also made me bobbins from a 
chunk of my maple tree which came down in the severe ice-storm we had in 
1998, and some from a neighbour's walnut tree.


Malvary in Ottawa, where the retro lacing is almost at an end, perhaps 1 
more day will have it off the pillow and ready to start again. 


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[lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Lemin
It has been great to read the thread about your favourite suppliers and how 
many of them have stopped making them.


The truth is that it is quite hard to make a living out of bobbin turning 
alone.  Most of those who continue either have other sources of business or 
do not need to make a living out of bobbin making.


There are few niche makers who seem to do OK and other have a faithful 
following of you good lace makers.  There is of course the mass produced 
range; often put out under a makers name and certainly turned to their 
design and pattern, but mass produced all the same.


Currently my favourite bobbins are those painted by very talented people. 
(Oops other than antique ones of course!) The most recent I saw were two 
Lighthouse painted East Devon bobbins... Just lovely. No idea who painted 
them.


I nearly got a contract once to drill all the spangling holes in massed 
produced bobbins .  That was going to be a deadly job as far as I was 
concerned.  Not at all creative.


Keep buying... bobbin turners need your custom!  :)

No... I hardly turn bobbins these days, a few copies of antiques for fun for 
my collection when I do not have the originals.


I am always interested in receiving pictures of interesting, beautiful or 
rare bobbins (Antique) From any genre of English lace making.  Thanks.  :)


To my American friends.. I would love to buy an Ipswich lace bobbin.  I have 
never handled one or been able to study one. :(  I have pictures of course.


Your forever scrounging friend


Brian
Cooranbong.  Australia 


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[lace] Cheap bobbins without a lathe

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Lemin
Yes, get appropriate dowel to suite the thickness that you want. Cut roughly 
to length. ( A bit longer as it will allow your neck holding hand to be 
further away from the wheel)


I am sure most of you have an electric grinding/sharpening wheel in the 
garage or shed.  The wheel will be about 1/2 to 1 inch wide.  Just right for 
the neck.


Offer it up to the spinning wheel at the place where the neck will be, with 
the dowel firmly held down on the guide; then I gently turn/revolve it with 
finger and thumb until the neck is made. I use my other hand to hold the 
other end steady and allow it to turn between my fingers.


For the head I offer the dowel up to the edge of the wheel and with the 
dowel at an angle and again revolve the dowel until the head is ground to 
the V shape you want it.


Do the whole thing gently... do not try to grind a lot away at one time.

Drill the spangling hole.

This is offered with all the safety warnings that should be taken when using 
power tools.




From Brian and Jean
Cooranbong.  Australia 


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Re: [lace] Term Craft

2010-09-28 Thread Norma Harris
Each fall I sell various needlework (knitting, tatting, crochet and sometimes
quilted) items at the senior center bazaar and invariably someone remarks
about my many crafts to which I gently reply, I don't do crafts, I'm a
needleworker.   To me, crafts involves using glue, paper, wood or plastic.

Hugs,
Norma

http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
NATA #847
Your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.


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Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread David C COLLYER


I've really enjoyed this thread, with names I've not heard in a long 
time - if ever!!


Me too Clay. Let me add some of my favourites:-

- Mike BESTER of Sth Africa
- Graham JOHNSON of Ballarat, Australia (now deceased)
- Keith HUMPHRIES of Ballarat, Australia
- John BESWICK of Uriala, Sth Australia
- Trevor SEMMENS of Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

and there's one pair in particular I love which I got from an English 
maker, but whose name I never remember. I think you knew him Steph. 
These bobbins are very fine and have a slim hour-glass shape.


David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread Carol

Alice et al,

I do sympathise greatly with the dilemma, but have no suggestions as to the 
removal of the glue.What a disaster!But the question of the 'worth' 
of lace opens up a whole can of worms, I feel.


I belonged to an Art Group, which had several splinter groups, such as the 
potters, as well as the painters, but a lace group also.We always 
produced work to display in the bi-annual exhibitions but our lace was 
rarely for sale, as the hours spent on just a small and relatively simple 
bookmark made it such that if we charged about £2.50 for it, it seemed to 
denigrate the art of lace.   If we attempted to charge say £5.00 per hour 
for the work - which is very much lower than house-cleaning, babysitting, 
plumbers (!) and garage mechanics - said bookmark would roll out at about 
£100.00 minimum!Which would probably occasion heart-failure in anyone 
who enquired ...


When I have been asked to carry out commissions, I usually ask if the person 
enquiring realises how time-intensive bobbin-lace-making (as well as most 
other crafts) is - if they seem content with thinking about that, then they 
are hopefully sitting down when I give a rough calculation of the hours and 
remuneration - I have to admit that that is very often the end of the 
enquiry, but there have been people who have commissioned work, been pleased 
with whatever it is, and have sometimes asked for other pieces.


So - I would probably go for broke, and say each bookmark was worth, to me, 
£100.00 (of course, that is sterling, but could be converted to USA dollars 
etc) and take it from there.The cost may encourage the organisers to be 
a little more circumspect when they apply their nasty little stickers next 
time...


Carol - in Suffolk UK
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'



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Subject: [lace] lace and glue


After it was much too late, I found out that the lady who set up the display 
used glue dots to stick the lace to the fabric panels.  I about came 
'unglued' when I discovered it, and the person in charge of the whole thing 
got an earful of my thoughts.


Alice in Oregonexpecting improving weather and sunshine for Lace Day.

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Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Clay Blackwell
I think this is an absolutely brilliant idea!  I'd like a section of our 
webshots to be devoted to bobbins, so when we find a bobbin that we 
can't identify, we can go look for similar bobbins there!


Clay

On 9/28/2010 6:37 AM, Alan  Sheila Brown wrote:

   It would be nice if  we   posted the names of bobbin makers from whom
we have bought bobbins,  so that a list could be compiled which took in
all bobbin makers.
Sheila in Sawbo' where we are waiting for more rain and it's cold!

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Re: [lace] Bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Clay Blackwell
Yes, I have a lovely set of Out of Africa bobbins made by Mike 
Bester!  He does beautiful work.  And John Beswick is known to me 
because of his wonderful little travel winder.  The others, I don't 
know...


Clay

On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:


I've really enjoyed this thread, with names I've not heard in a long 
time - if ever!!


Me too Clay. Let me add some of my favourites:-

- Mike BESTER of Sth Africa
- Graham JOHNSON of Ballarat, Australia (now deceased)
- Keith HUMPHRIES of Ballarat, Australia
- John BESWICK of Uriala, Sth Australia
- Trevor SEMMENS of Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

and there's one pair in particular I love which I got from an English 
maker, but whose name I never remember. I think you knew him Steph. 
These bobbins are very fine and have a slim hour-glass shape.


David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread Clay Blackwell
I agree, Carol...  Except that I would be specific about the number of 
hours it took to make it, and give a reasonable rate for skilled 
work...  $15 per hour is not unreasonable.  When the total is computed, 
it will have the desired effect, and you won't see glue dots again!


Clay

On 9/28/2010 10:32 AM, Carol wrote:

Alice et al,
/snip/
So - I would probably go for broke, and say each bookmark was worth, 
to me, £100.00 (of course, that is sterling, but could be converted to 
USA dollars etc) and take it from there.The cost may encourage the 
organisers to be a little more circumspect when they apply their nasty 
little stickers next time...


Carol - in Suffolk UK



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Re: [lace] Term Craft

2010-09-28 Thread bev walker
Also known as needlecraft?
Words!
Whatever 'craft' it is, it is not a derogatory word, it is the context
in which the term is used, yes?
I consider knitting a craft, and a good one. I also do paper crafts in
an arty, one-off kind of way.
My craft room is my lace place, my weaving loft, my knitting stash and
where I store my watercolours :p

On 9/28/10, Norma Harris nrm_h...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 Each fall I sell various needlework (knitting, tatting, crochet and
 sometimes
 quilted) items at the senior center bazaar and invariably someone remarks
 about my many crafts to which I gently reply, I don't do crafts, I'm a
 needleworker.   To me, crafts involves using glue, paper, wood or plastic.

 Hugs,
 Norma

 http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
 http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
 NATA #847
 Your worth consists in what you are and not in what you have.


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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread Malvary J Cole
Clay wrote. and give a reasonable rate for skilled work...  $15 per 
hour is not unreasonable.


I think that the Ontario minimum wage is around $10+ and I find $15 is only 
a little over minimum wage.  Car mechanics, plumbers, electricians charge 
well over $50, computer tech charges $88 per hour!  So why would our skill 
and expertise be less valuable?


Malvary in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread bev walker
I think that putting a price on our hobby lace is at cross-purposes.
For insurance it could be the cost of replacing materials which is
'meh' for the amount of thread in a bookmark.
The majority of us don't make lace for money and the value  in making
it is personal.
How about 'priceless' ?

On 9/26/10, lacel...@frontier.com lacel...@frontier.com wrote:
.

 By the waythe Festival chairman said damages would be covered by their
 insurance, and I need to submit the value of the damaged items.  How much is
 a bookmark worth?
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread bev walker
Trades such as plumbing and electrical work aren't hobbies really, are
they? Car mechanics - some do that as a hobby but it is otherwise a
trade.

I think we are comparing apples and oranges here ;)
In my opinion as expressed already our lacemaking is priceless :D

On 9/28/10, Malvary J Cole malva...@sympatico.ca wrote:

  Car mechanics, plumbers, electricians charge
 well over $50, computer tech charges $88 per hour!  So why would our skill


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread bev walker
I think 'priceless' covers it - after pointing out the length of time
required to make the item.

When I put anything in a show or on public display I'm aware that
there is an off-chance that it could stolen, or ruined in some way.
The glue-dot was an unpleasant surprise :(

When one of a kind is ruined no amount of money is going to replace it.

On 9/28/10, Margery Allcock margerybu...@o2.co.uk wrote:

 How about 'priceless' ?


 But for the purposes of insurance at a show, and to give the glue dot lady
 an idea of what she is handling, putting a price on my work is useful; and

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] lace and glue

2010-09-28 Thread Clay Blackwell
I totally agree with you on the value of our work!  I think that the 
difference is, car mechanics and plumbers and electricians provide 
services that we find hard to live without when we need them...  but a 
lacemaker is an expendible luxury.  That's why you rarely (if ever...) 
see a lacemaker working for $50 an hour - no one has agreed to pay them!


So...  my figure of $15 was selected as being over minimum wage - 
although barely.  Still, when computed for purposes of loss, it gives a  
value to the piece that will get their attention.  OTOH, you could *try* 
saying, I would not do this work for less than $50 an hour, which is 
why I don't sell my work.


On 9/28/2010 12:11 PM, Malvary J Cole wrote:
Clay wrote. and give a reasonable rate for skilled work...  $15 
per hour is not unreasonable.


I think that the Ontario minimum wage is around $10+ and I find $15 is 
only a little over minimum wage.  Car mechanics, plumbers, 
electricians charge well over $50, computer tech charges $88 per 
hour!  So why would our skill and expertise be less valuable?


Malvary in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada





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[lace] bobbin makers

2010-09-28 Thread Lorelei Halley
It occurs to me that all of you who know the bobbin maker might want to make a
photo record of which ones were made by which bobbin maker.  When they get
passed on your sucsessors won't know which are which.  And future generations
might want to know.  It seems that those who collect antique bobbins like to
know who made them, although I gather that it is almost impossible to be sure.
The simplest thing would be to lay them on the glass of your scanner and
shoot.
Lorelei

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[lace] {lace] Skill

2010-09-28 Thread Daphne Martin
Hello

  Jan Gardiner from Lacewing gave a talk at Wymondham in Norfolk UK on
wether we could be called a skilled worker.

If I remember correctly, she said we do something very skillfull. Manovering
the bobbins, threads. Knowing how to read, design and maker from a card with
pinholes on it wether we photo copy a pattern or not]

Most people cannot sit for the hours it takes to make our lace, even if its a
bookmark.

At the end of her talk she said I have come to the conclusion that we are
skilled people. So don`t let others say you are not!!!
I think she is right.

 Daphne Norfolk UK

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[lace] needlelace

2010-09-28 Thread Lorelei Halley
Catherine Barley recently sent me a photo of a new needlelace piece she has
made, and I've posted it on NEEDLELACETALK with her permission.  You might
like to see:
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/needlelace-poppies-catherine?xg_source=a
ctivity

Lorelei Halley

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[lace] needlelace x3

2010-09-28 Thread Lorelei Halley
Just cut and paste the ctivity to the end of the url.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] needlelace x3

2010-09-28 Thread bev walker
or go here:
http://tinyurl.com/2est3c9

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 Just cut and paste the ctivity to the end of the url.
 Lorelei

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