[lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
I have noticed these labels being thrown about and was wondering what the differences are. I particularly noticed it on ebay. I always assumed antique is for anything at least 100 years old. Vintage would be for something less than 100 years old? Am I wrong? Greetings Nath - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
In the UK, an antique has to be over 100 years old. So currently anything before 1911 is classed as antique. Old and vintage are both open to interpretation - could be 50 years old, could be last week. Could be related to the expected life of the item, or could be totally a personal view. Anything listed as vintage on Ebay I take as being anything made last week or before, but sellers seem to think that having the label vintage added would make it more desirable. Other suspect descriptions for me are rare, bobbin laceand collectable. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
Hi Spiders, I agree with Nath that antiques should be 100 year or more old. If it is less but not of the present era it should be vintage. Sometimes Antique and Vintage are misused by traders in the hope of making more money by stating something is antique when it is not. Buyer beware! There is far more vintage than antique lace. Also, be very careful as to descriptions. I have seen crochet described as bobbin lace and the finest Chantilly lace as machine lace (and visa versa) :-(. And these are just a few examples. Some traders genuinely don't know and will put corrections on their posting; others refuse, ignore or can be a little abusive. Happy lace making, Joepie from summery Sussex. -Original Message- From: Nathalie Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:21 AM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique I have noticed these labels being thrown about and was wondering what the differences are. I particularly noticed it on ebay. I always assumed antique is for anything at least 100 years old. Vintage would be for something less than 100 years old? Am I wrong? Greetings Nath - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
To add to the confusion about terminology, in the US, antique can mean anything over 50 years old. This may apply only to cars (where over 25 is vintage), but I have a niggling suspicion that it applies to other things as well. So when US sellers use these terms, they may be accurate. Just another reason to heed what Joepie says... Buyer Beware! Clay On 7/28/2011 5:45 AM, J D Hammett wrote: Hi Spiders, I agree with Nath that antiques should be 100 year or more old. If it is less but not of the present era it should be vintage. Sometimes Antique and Vintage are misused by traders in the hope of making more money by stating something is antique when it is not. Buyer beware! There is far more vintage than antique lace. Also, be very careful as to descriptions. I have seen crochet described as bobbin lace and the finest Chantilly lace as machine lace (and visa versa) :-(. And these are just a few examples. Some traders genuinely don't know and will put corrections on their posting; others refuse, ignore or can be a little abusive. Happy lace making, Joepie from summery Sussex. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced
I did a summary with pointers to the winners on LaceNews. The crocheted engine won! Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
Hi again Spiders, Just a case in point of mis-description Number 380358016719 on www.ebay.co.uk is a traditional Irish crochet lace described as bobbin lace. Joepie, in East Sussex. From: Nathalie Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:21 AM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique I have noticed these labels being thrown about and was wondering what the differences are. I particularly noticed it on ebay. I always assumed antique is for anything at least 100 years old. Vintage would be for something less than 100 years old? Am I wrong? Greetings Nath - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced
Hi Laurie, Some inspired and inspiring work: though I feel that the 'lace' tops might be extremely uncomfortable. I love the lace truck. Joepie, East Sussex -Original Message- From: Laurie Waters Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:23 PM To: lace@arachne.com Cc: Laurie S. Waters Subject: [lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced I did a summary with pointers to the winners on LaceNews. The crocheted engine won! Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced
How very exciting that two Americans won awards, including the top prize!! I don't know how the judges managed to choose, because there were s many wonderful pieces entered. Thanks, Laurie, for keeping us informed! Clay On 7/28/2011 9:23 AM, Laurie Waters wrote: I did a summary with pointers to the winners on LaceNews. The crocheted engine won! Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced
I spend most of my lace time learning the old, traditional lace forms. Bucks, Tonder, Torchon, Flanders, Duchesse, Withof, and in the future, Beds and Binche. This is the second time in two days I have had my horizons expanded by what can be done with the medium by such creative people. Thank you so very much for bringing these things to me. As with poets and master painters, to see things in a different way somehow fills the soul. Lyn in Lancaster where overcast means cooler. 82F 25C at noon with rain coming our way. -Original Message- From: Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.net Sent: Jul 28, 2011 9:23 AM To: lace@arachne.com Cc: Laurie S. Waters l...@lanl.gov Subject: [lace] Powerhouse Love Lace winners announced I did a summary with pointers to the winners on LaceNews. The crocheted engine won! Laurie http://lacenews.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Vintage - Old - Antique
It has always been my experience when re-entering the U.S. that items Customs allows as antiques must be 100 years old to qualify. Therefore, I think of all items over 100 as being antique. As the years have flown by, my collection of vintage has become antique! Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 7/28/2011 7:41:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clayblackw...@comcast.net writes: To add to the confusion about terminology, in the US, antique can mean anything over 50 years old. This may apply only to cars (where over 25 is vintage), but I have a niggling suspicion that it applies to other things as well. So when US sellers use these terms, they may be accurate. Just another reason to heed what Joepie says... Buyer Beware! Clay On 7/28/2011 5:45 AM, J D Hammett wrote: Hi Spiders, I agree with Nath that antiques should be 100 year or more old. If it is less but not of the present era it should be vintage. Sometimes Antique and Vintage are misused by traders in the hope of making more money by stating something is antique when it is not. Buyer beware! There is far more vintage than antique lace. Also, be very careful as to descriptions. I have seen crochet described as bobbin lace and the finest Chantilly lace as machine lace (and visa versa) :-(. And these are just a few examples. Some traders genuinely don't know and will put corrections on their posting; others refuse, ignore or can be a little abusive. Happy lace making, Joepie from summery Sussex. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lace
I just had to a crow a little bit. I have been working on a s'Gravenmoer bookmark and figured out my mistake on the Duitse Plaatje (German Plate)and am feeling very relieved Yeah for me!!! Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lace
Figuring out a mistake by yourself is always a cause for celebration!!! AND... in my opinion, it's a lesson you won't forget! Congratulations! I've had the thread on the same bobbin break twice today... and that's just plain annoying. I've realized that even though I reeled off a couple of feet past the break before I threw it back into the work, that just wasn't enough. Maybe I'll get a different bobbin next time. Meanwhile, it was time to walk away before something *really* bad happened!! ; ) Clay On 7/28/2011 3:50 PM, Marji Sakievich wrote: I just had to a crow a little bit. I have been working on a s'Gravenmoer bookmark and figured out my mistake on the Duitse Plaatje (German Plate)and am feeling very relieved Yeah for me!!! Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fungi and new lace pillow
Hello Fellow Arachnids, I have been away for five months (terrible withdrawal symptoms from a lack of lace and Arachne ...) looking after elderly and quite poorly parents, but am back now, and hoping I haven't forgotten everything about lace! But - Donna's new pillow reninded me of my new(ish) acquisition. When I rushed up to North Norfolk to look after my parents, I had my very large lace pillow in the car - providentally. On one of the more pleasant days, I took my pillow outside, with my stand. The phone rang, I stood up, and as said lace piow is large and heavy, it decided to topple off the 'table' part of the stand. A neighbour heard my chuntering, and popped his head over the fence, asked what on earth was the matter, and what on earth was I doing!I explained, and told him why I was a tad disgruntled, upon which he took the stand away, and brought it back several days later with an adaptation - a much larger 'table' bit, all beautifully stained, and ready to go. I am now delighted with it - but am wondering just how I can persuage him that, as he has now retired from his carpentry business, he needs a small lathe to make me loads more bobbins! Carol - Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Dona Bushong bdonama...@gmail.com To: 'Arachne Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:18 AM Subject: [lace] fungi and new lace pillow On the true lace front - this past weekend my husband and I completed a new roller lace pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Skansk, tensioning the work a pin from Brioude
Hello All! My beans insertion is off the pillow I've posted some pics on webshots. While I'm no expert, I finished enough to have a small strip for a CQ project I think I know what I'm doing for the next time if there is one! The linen embroidery thread is quite robust so it should hold up to use/abuse laundry. Stupid question for the day--since tension was improved by using TCTC rather than CTCT, is that a hint that could/should be applied to other types of lace where tension is an issue, i.e. Milanese?? The strip was worked with a dozen pins, including those that held the gingham on the roller. No wonder this lace was developed when pins were expensive! I also posted a pic of my lace pin from Brioude a pair of bobbins from Belgium. If anyone has info on the bobbins, please let me know as I've not seen any others like them. I've received 2 postcards from Janet Theaker--one of the newlyweds another of York. Many thanks. My cards are idling on my desk b! ut haven't made it to the post box yet! Deadlines, deadlines. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lace
In message 4e31c10f.1020...@comcast.net, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net writes I've had the thread on the same bobbin break twice today... and that's just plain annoying. I've realized that even though I reeled off a couple of feet past the break before I threw it back into the work, that just wasn't enough. Maybe I'll get a different bobbin next time. Meanwhile, it was time to walk away before something *really* bad happened!! ; ) Have you tried covering your pillow with a damp cloth for a few hours, Clay, it might be that the thread is drying out? -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lace
Well done that girl!! Sue in East Yorkshire On 28 Jul 2011, at 20:50, Marji Sakievich wrote: I just had to a crow a little bit. I have been working on a s'Gravenmoer bookmark and figured out my mistake on the Duitse Plaatje (German Plate)and am feeling very relieved Yeah for me!!! Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fungi and new lace pillow
Difficult one Carol I'm sure you'll persevere though... LOL Sue in EY On 28 Jul 2011, at 22:44, Carol wrote: Hello Fellow Arachnids, I have been away for five months (terrible withdrawal symptoms from a lack of lace and Arachne ...) looking after elderly and quite poorly parents, but am back now, and hoping I haven't forgotten everything about lace! But - Donna's new pillow reninded me of my new(ish) acquisition. When I rushed up to North Norfolk to look after my parents, I had my very large lace pillow in the car - providentally. On one of the more pleasant days, I took my pillow outside, with my stand. The phone rang, I stood up, and as said lace piow is large and heavy, it decided to topple off the 'table' part of the stand. A neighbour heard my chuntering, and popped his head over the fence, asked what on earth was the matter, and what on earth was I doing!I explained, and told him why I was a tad disgruntled, upon which he took the stand away, and brought it back several days later with an adaptation - a much larger 'table' bit, all beautifully stained, and ready to go. I am now delighted with it - but am wondering just how I can persuage him that, as he has now retired from his carpentry business, he needs a small lathe to make me loads more bobbins! Carol - Suffolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Kate's gown and the Queen's reaction to the display
This is late, but I'd sent it to Ruth, and forgot to send it to the group as a whole. But I think it should be heard, as I'm sure the discussion of the Duchess of Cambridge's wedding gown is not over. This is a great website for those obsessed with The Gown. The setting for The Gown is a bit off-putting, although I must disagree with HRM. It is not horrid. That is a bit strong. Although I am reminded of Ringwraiths, but that's just me. One comment on the website is that Kate wears the clothes, the clothes don't wear her. I believe that is at the bottom of a lot of the disappointment. I'm sure all the contributors to this thread sat riveted to the telly on The Day. I certainly did, with tea and scones at my side, before 5 a.m.. The star was not The Gown. The star was Kate, in the gown. She, with her lovely personality is missing from the display, and I think that is what is really the problem. No matter how The Gown is displayed, Kate will not be in it. We can dissect the lace, the cut, the construction, but without the wearer, it's just not the same. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it's MUGGY again. I don't want to talk about it. -Original Message- From: Earl Ruth Johnson ejohn...@magma.ca Sent: Jul 24, 2011 10:28 PM To: l...@dont.panix.com Subject: [lace] Kate's gown and the Queen's reaction to the display http://whatkatewore.com/ Ruth Johnson Ottawa, Ontario, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Kate's gown and the Queen's reaction to the display
Hear, Hear! Clay On 7/28/2011 7:07 PM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: This is late, but I'd sent it to Ruth, and forgot to send it to the group as a whole. But I think it should be heard, as I'm sure the discussion of the Duchess of Cambridge's wedding gown is not over. This is a great website for those obsessed with The Gown. The setting for The Gown is a bit off-putting, although I must disagree with HRM. It is not horrid. That is a bit strong. Although I am reminded of Ringwraiths, but that's just me. One comment on the website is that Kate wears the clothes, the clothes don't wear her. I believe that is at the bottom of a lot of the disappointment. I'm sure all the contributors to this thread sat riveted to the telly on The Day. I certainly did, with tea and scones at my side, before 5 a.m.. The star was not The Gown. The star was Kate, in the gown. She, with her lovely personality is missing from the display, and I think that is what is really the problem. No matter how The Gown is displayed, Kate will not be in it. We can dissect the lace, the cut, the construction, but without the wearer, it's just not the same. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it's MUGGY again. I don't want to talk about it. -Original Message- From: Earl Ruth Johnsonejohn...@magma.ca Sent: Jul 24, 2011 10:28 PM To: l...@dont.panix.com Subject: [lace] Kate's gown and the Queen's reaction to the display http://whatkatewore.com/ Ruth Johnson Ottawa, Ontario, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] fungi and new lace pillow
Oh my dear! You must tell him that he has earned his wings with lacemakers and as a reward, he now has the opportunity to make new stands for lacemakers from all over the world!!! You may want to ease his anxiety by telling him that his requests will be very manageable, given our very shallow pockets and our relatively small numbers. Still, if he makes a stunning stand which is celebrated on Arachne, he may have more trade than he can manage! My very best wishes to both of you... and I'd be happy to see a photo of his new and improved table!!! Clay On 7/28/2011 5:44 PM, Carol wrote: Hello Fellow Arachnids, I have been away for five months (terrible withdrawal symptoms from a lack of lace and Arachne ...) looking after elderly and quite poorly parents, but am back now, and hoping I haven't forgotten everything about lace! But - Donna's new pillow reninded me of my new(ish) acquisition. When I rushed up to North Norfolk to look after my parents, I had my very large lace pillow in the car - providentally. On one of the more pleasant days, I took my pillow outside, with my stand. The phone rang, I stood up, and as said lace piow is large and heavy, it decided to topple off the 'table' part of the stand. A neighbour heard my chuntering, and popped his head over the fence, asked what on earth was the matter, and what on earth was I doing!I explained, and told him why I was a tad disgruntled, upon which he took the stand away, and brought it back several days later with an adaptation - a much larger 'table' bit, all beautifully stained, and ready to go. I am now delighted with it - but am wondering just how I can persuage him that, as he has now retired from his carpentry business, he needs a small lathe to make me loads more bobbins! Carol - Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Dona Bushong bdonama...@gmail.com To: 'Arachne Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:18 AM Subject: [lace] fungi and new lace pillow On the true lace front - this past weekend my husband and I completed a new roller lace pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
