[lace] Re: types of lace worked

2013-03-27 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Shell and fellow Arachnids,

Like many lacemakers I can do several types of lace;- bobbin (a number 
different types), needle, Irish and 'straight' crochet, Carrickmacross, 
Armenian (knotted), knitted, tambour, tatting (do not enjoy but can do it), 
Tennerife and embroidered laces and probably some others. Don't forget that 
there are many different types of bobbin lace alone; just counting them off 
without reference to books, papers or the Net I can think of about 40 each 
with its own techniques and little tricks :-)


My favourites are Milanese,  and mixed technique bobbin lace, needle lace 
and Branscombe (needle lace using machine made tape as foundation).


Happy lace making

Joepie in East Sussex, where it is still cold, but the sun is shining for 
the first time in weeks. HURRAY!



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From: Shell <.


>I do have a question - how many of us do more than one form of lace?  I
personally have done some tatting with a bobbin, knitted lace and bobbin
lace. I am still learning the needle lace and other forms.

I just wonder how many of us do more than one form.

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[lace] How many kinds od lace?

2013-03-27 Thread Kathleen Harris
I make mainly bobbin lace, but I also tat and learned about 70 years ago,
but tatting took a back seat when I discovered bobbin lace. I have made and
enjoyed needlelace, and have always intended to do more, but again, I am
afraid bobbin lace comes first. I can crochet and I do a lot of knitting,
but I haven't tackled knitted lace.

 

I am also a spinner, and have made lace with handspun yarn, and would like
to do more of that too. 

 

Kathleen

In Berkshire, UK, where the snow has almost gone, the wind is a little less
bitter, and the temperature a little bit above freezing.

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[lace] Men making lace with beards in bags

2013-03-27 Thread Vibeke Ervo
"Elizabeth Ligeti" wrote:
“Somewhere I read of some old men on the continent,(6 or 7 of them, I
think.) who taught lacemaking at a lace School - and their beards were
so long they had them tied up in little bags to keep them out of the
way of the pins!”

Do take a look at Tønder in Mrs. Palliser.

It has been told that a man by the name of Steenbeck from Westphalia
introduced lacemaking to Tønder in 1646, and he imported the old men
to teach lace. Research has shown that Steenbeck was an entrepreneur
and that he very successfully avoided paying tax as a citizen of
Tønder for years.
This story has been much discussed and ‘disproved’ by some, it looks
as if it was first published in 1758. Westphalia was not a lace area.
However, somebody says they have seen that the miners in the
Erzgebirge made lace with their beards in bags. I don’t find it
difficult to imagine that Steenbeck imported thread from Westphalia
and old men from the Erzgebirge.
The other point is the problem of the date. A lacemaker found a Gold
Horn in 1639, and our King Christian IV bought lace in the area
several times in 1619-20. However, ‘to introduce lacemaking’ has
changed its meaning, for us it is the craft becoming known, but in the
18th cent. It meant establishing an industry, and Steenbeck might well
be the first major lace dealer, thanks to his knowledge of business
and the old men.

Vibeke in Copenhagen

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[lace] William de Morgan tiles

2013-03-27 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Thank you Jeri for posting the link to Angela's site!  What a 
delightful piece of Bedfordshire!!  The "quatrefoil" ground (my term--I don't 
know anything about this lace!) is just right to set off the holly, berries & 
butterfly.  Awesome!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA  

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Re: [lace] Re: types of lace worked

2013-03-27 Thread Michelle Norton
I've learned to tat but still very much the beginner. So far with bobbin
lace I've made a short tape of stitch practice before my move. I've knit
 plenty of  lace like things, but nothing of actual lace.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, J D Hammett wrote:

> Hi Shell and fellow Arachnids,
>
> Like many lacemakers I can do several types of lace;- bobbin (a number
> different types), needle, Irish and 'straight' crochet, Carrickmacross,
> Armenian (knotted), knitted, tambour, tatting (do not enjoy but can do it),
> Tennerife and embroidered laces and probably some others. Don't forget that
> there are many different types of bobbin lace alone; just counting them off
> without reference to books, papers or the Net I can think of about 40 each
> with its own techniques and little tricks :-
>


-- 
Michelle
Writer / Web Designer
http://michellejnorton.com
http://denverfictionwriters.com

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[lace] Types of lace worked and other needlearts

2013-03-27 Thread Lyn Bailey
The first lace I ever did was shuttle tatting.  That soon ended when I 
discovered that I couldn't go back and fix mistakes.  One of the 'joys' of 
bobbin lace is that if you make a mistake you can retrolace and fix it. 
Much later I discovered needle tatting, and I enjoy that for Christmas 
snowflakes.  Once had a dozen decorating the window of my law office.  Great 
for a tiny takealong project.  I also sew, embroider, cross stitch, smock. 
No cutwork, so that doesn't count as lace.  I sew a lot, or used to.  And I 
knit.  I have been astonished but then not surprised at how many lacemakers 
knit.  I've seen lace meetings where no one really wanted to work her 
pillow, and the knitting came out instead.  I have made a shetland shawl as 
a Christening shawl for the children.


Oh, and of course, bobbin lace, which I do almost every day.  Torchon, 
Binche, Flanders, Bucks, Duchesse, Idrija, Withof.


Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where when the sun is out it feels like 
early spring.  Birds are going nuts. 


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[lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread lacelady
"I do have a question - how many of us do more than one form of lace? "

Bobbin lace is my addition... and I have dabbled in many different varieties.  
I currently have projects going from 16th century Flanders to very modern 
patterns, so any type can appear on my pillows.

I've also dabbled in needlelace, knotted lace. and tambour lace.  I have no 
expertise in these but I understand the processes.  Tatting was briefly 
attempted but I never practiced, so my skill is nil.

Before bobbin lace was discovered, I had done all kinds of decorative sewing 
including a form of freemotion lace on a machine.  I also learned to crochet 
and embroider as a young child, and taught myself knitting as a young adult.  I 
had to give these up for many years because of finger problems but have taken 
them up again recently when my fingers no longer hurt.  There's a lovely 
knitted lace shawl on my 'to do' list.  Someday.

Bring along another type of lace and I may give it a try.  I just like to 
create things with my own hands.

Alice in Oregon .. where we are supposed to have a warm, dry Easter weekend.  
That's almost unheard of here. Meanwhile, it's gray and damp.

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Re: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Nancy Neff
Hi Alice,
 
I'd love to see your 16th century Flanders, as would others I'm
sure.  Any possibility that you could post pictures to LACEIOLI Ning group?
 
Nancy
in Connecticut, cleaning out a flooded basement,
throwing water-logged *stuff* away, and thinking it doesn't matter much
because all my antique lace, lace pillows, bobbins, books, etc. are safely
upstairs!


>
>From: "lacel...@frontier.com"

>To: lace_arachne.com  
>Sent:
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:18 PM
>Subject: [lace] kinds of lace
>
>"I do have
a question - how many of us do more than one form of lace? "
>
>Bobbin lace is
my addition... and I have dabbled in many different varieties.  I currently
have projects going from 16th century Flanders to very modern patterns, so any
type can appear on my pillows.
>
>I've also dabbled in needlelace, knotted
lace. and tambour lace.  I have no expertise in these but I understand the
processes.  Tatting was briefly attempted but I never practiced, so my skill
is nil.
>
>Before bobbin lace was discovered, I had done all kinds of
decorative sewing including a form of freemotion lace on a machine.  I also
learned to crochet and embroider as a young child, and taught myself knitting
as a young adult.  I had to give these up for many years because of finger
problems but have taken them up again recently when my fingers no longer
hurt.  There's a lovely knitted lace shawl on my 'to do' list.  Someday.
>
>Bring along another type of lace and I may give it a try.  I just like to
create things with my own hands.
>
>Alice in Oregon .. where we are supposed
to have a warm, dry Easter weekend.  That's almost unheard of here. Meanwhile,
it's gray and damp.
>
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Re: [lace] How many kinds of lace?

2013-03-27 Thread Linda Walton
How many kinds of lace do I make?

Well, the only kind of lace I make is Bucks point ground, and I like to 
make yardage.
When I started, I learned to make torchon first, and still use that 
sometimes, such as for making Christmas decorations.

In the past, I've done all sorts of needlework, from embroidery to 
dressmaking, and I've done all sorts of knitting, as well as some 
spinning and weaving.  But since I developed arthritis most of these 
have been forbidden, since they put side-loads on my finger joints.  
However, thank goodness I took my small pillow in to show the 
physiotherapist at the hospital, and she approved bobbin lace, 
especially my bucks thumper bobbins which are easy to scoop up and hold 
using the whole hand rather than spangled midlands.  (And - shhh! - once 
in a while I do a little knitting, because I do miss it so; but only 
little purses made with short fine wooden needles and dainty silk 
yarn.)  It was too late for me when I discovered needle lace and 
tatting, such a pity.

I've never got on with crochet - don't know why; it doesn't attract me 
at all.

Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where there's still some snow 
about and the wind is bitterly cold, but - hurray - I'm indoors).

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[lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread Clay Blackwell
I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't know 
what to do with myself!

I just finished a piece of Milanese, designed by Louise Colgan.   I'll post 
this to Flickr when I can photograph it.   I have a workshop with Vera Cockuyt 
coming up soon, where I'm going to start a Vologda piece, and another workshop 
in May (Tonder), so it doesn't make a lot of sense to start something and then 
get caught up in two other projects. Plus, it's a lot easier to store pillows 
if they're empty!

Sent from my iPad

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[lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Lorelei Halley
Clay: your empty pillows are crying, feeling neglected and unloved.

I agree with Nancy:  I'd love to see more early Flemish lace.

Pottenkant?  Paris lace?  The forgotten sisters.

I agree with Maureen: bobbin lace alone can occupy several lifetimes.  Add
needlelace and you have several centuries.

I started out sewing (grandfather was a tailor), learned crochet and knitting
in my 20s.  I made a 2 piece orange crocheted dress -- you could see me coming
far off.  Then I learned embroidery, including pulled thread work (makes holes
without removing threads).  Then came bobbin lace, and lace guilds.  Once the
guild started I wanted to learn just enough of every kind so I could
understand it, its limitations and advantages.  So I added tatting, took a
workshop in Battenberg.  Made just one little Tenerife round thing.  And I've
learned needlelace and Hardanger.

The only kinds I expect to continue with are bobbin and needle.  But I do want
to learn filet lacis, and do more sol lace.  Possibly embroidered tulle.

I have eyesight problems and difficulties finding an optometrist who
understands what I need.  So bobbin lace is becoming problematic.  The various
embroidered kinds can be made with a magnifier clamped to my chair, so as I
get older, those may take over.

I think I prefer bobbin lace above all others.  But needle lace gives you such
freedom to design anything, anything at all.  It has no limitations.  You
don't have to master a large number of techniques before you can design for
it.  All you have to do is learn the basics, and start designing.  As you
learn new needle lace techniques, you just add them to your designs.

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Nancy Neff
With regard to the original question, I'm also addicted to bobbin lace.  I've
tried all others I know of except hairpin lace, but the only other type I
really enjoy is hardanger and other lace-like embroidery--go figure!  I'd like
to do more needle lace but I'm hopelessly bad at it, whereas I seem to pick up
different types of bobbin lace instinctively. It's much more rewarding to work
on something that I feel like I'm good at and where I like both the doing of
it and the results so much more.
 
I did just buy some tatting patterns for
tatted jewelry. I taught myself to tat before I was told that that was
impossible, and I enjoy it okay, but it's not mesmerizing like bobbin lace.
 
And there's always the comments we get "I'd never have the patience for
that"--what I don't have the patience for is to clean my house!
 
Nancy
in
Connecticut, where I'm cleaning the basement under threat of mold if I don't.

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Re: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hi Lorelei and all
I too have a problem with my left eye, which I damaged inside when I fell 
and broke my arm a few years ago.
Therefore I often either enlarge the pattern and work in thicker thread, or 
where magnifying glasses. The latter especially when I go on a Bedfordshire 
lace course with Christine Springett.


At the moment I am working on a Celtic knot - kind of in Milanese, but 
working it out as I go along. The first and second attempts were hopeless, 
but (three knocks on wood in the dutch way) so far so good.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


I have eyesight problems and difficulties finding an optometrist who
understands what I need.  So bobbin lace is becoming problematic.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread sof
Le 27/03/2013 19:43, Clay Blackwell a écrit :
> I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't 
> know what to do with myself!
>
> I just finished a piece of Milanese, designed by Louise Colgan.   I'll post 
> this to Flickr when I can photograph it.   I have a workshop with Vera 
> Cockuyt coming up soon, where I'm going to start a Vologda piece, and another 
> workshop in May (Tonder), so it doesn't make a lot of sense to start 
> something and then get caught up in two other projects. Plus, it's a lot 
> easier to store pillows if they're empty!
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Hello,

Waouh!!!

The last time there was nothing on my pillows was  before my first 
lace lesson, a long time ago!!

Dentelez bien

Sof in France

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[lace] How many kinds od lace?

2013-03-27 Thread mary carey
My grandmother taught me to crochet - she died the week I turned 10 - and I
still do more crochet lace than any other.  I have made filet crochet Altar
frontals and do a "box", including a small tablecloth cloth, about a metre
diameter, each time a member of the extended family gets married.

It was through my interest in Ecclesiastical work that I came to bobbin lace
and I learned be Correspondence initially - still think Rosemary's notes, now
Introduction to Lacemaking are the best learning tool.  Bucks Point is
something I have tried and would like to do more of.  Started with Sol type
motifs making a baby jacket, would to do some finer work.  Would like to add
some needlelace fillings so I can do something with the lengths of cord I have
made to try Romanian Point.

Have decided Bedfordshire and Maltese have too many tallies and Honiton is to
fine.  Have books on laces I will never try as I have an interest in the
history and development of lace.  Had the opportunity to attend a workshop by
Louise Colgan who talked about a Brugge finish and a Honiton start so these
books may turn out to be useful for actually doing lace.

Have done one, another on my large pillow, of Eeva-Liisa's picures, and would
like to do an edging for use in Church.  Have suitable patterns and plans to
make bobbin lace cloths for granddaughters for their Wedding boxes, they are
largely torchon patterns.

My focus at the moment is to find some opportunities to teach.  Grandaughters
we see regularly love the pretty beads on Grandma's bobbins but they are too
young to teach.

At the moment am preoccupied by a new Embroidery Machine - do lots of
childrens' quilts, some to give to specific charities and do embroidered
squares for those.  It also allows me to do the quilting too.

Today I am guest speaker at my Trefoil Guild (retired Guide Leaders) on the
subject of Lace, so who knows, we may develop a learners group.

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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Fw: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Agnes Boddington

Since when do I "where" instead of "wear" magnifying glasses?
Brain getting confused.
Agnes Boddington

Therefore I often either enlarge the pattern and work in thicker thread, or 
where magnifying glasses. The latter especially when I go on a Bedfordshire 
lace course with Christine Springett.




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RE: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread Noelene Lafferty
One of my old poems:

My Sanity

I've been out of sorts just lately
And feeling rather flat.
The weather's been appalling
It's even stopped the cat.

I had some jobs to finish
To get entries in a Show.
Ends to finish, hems to turn
It all just laid me low.

And then at last I realized
Just what seemed out of place.
I'm lace deprived - I'm starving!
I need my fix of lace!

All pillows stood there empty.
My bobbins had no thread.
There was no work in progress
To keep me out of bed!

So now the outlook's different
There's bobbins freshly wound
And prickings on the pillows
And challenges abound.

So my sanity is saved again
And for that I'm really glad.
Lace may be an addiction
But I'm still not going mad!


.Noelene
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au
I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't
know what to do with myself!

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Re: [lace] kinds of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Bronwen of Hindscroft
I have had people who do extremely complex things themselves (just not
lace) come up and say that too me.  A lot of times, the people who tell me
that are men who do extremely complex things like chain mail or other metal
work.  When I point out how much patience they have for their passion, they
say something about how they feel the need to throw their thing against the
wall.

I respond with, "I do that too!  Only my needle lace will just go a few
feet before fluttering to the floor.  If it makes it to the tv, it won't do
any damage to it.  That's about the only difference between the patience I
have to do this, and the patience you have to do woodworking/metal
work/whatever big thing you do."  :)

Ob lace comment:  Right now I have nothing plotted out, but have two
projects I need to get done in a little over 2 weeks.  I'd best get a move
on!

Bronwen
in sunny (today) Colorado, where the snow from the weekend is almost melted.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Nancy Neff  wrote:

>
>
> And there's always the comments we get "I'd never have the patience for
> that"--what I don't have the patience for is to clean my house!
>
> Nancy
> in
> Connecticut, where I'm cleaning the basement under threat of mold if I
> don't.
>
-- 

"It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength."
- May Sarton

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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread lynrbailey
Written with tongue firmly in cheek, only to be funny, NOT to be mean.  Please 
take as intended.  

Clay, how could you have let something like that happen!!  You don't usually 
make such mistakes!!  Are there only two pillows in the house?  How are you 
coping?  Order a roller pillow forthwith and get some useful yardage on it as 
soon as possible.  Or finish your Christmas stars and bookmarks early.  

On a more serious note, Since I was 19, a while ago, I have always had at least 
one knitting project going.  I think I've had at least one ongoing project on a 
pillow for about the last 15 years at least.  Can't remember before that 
exactly.  Honestly, I would not be able to tolerate your situation.  It's like 
being a smoker without cigarettes in the house, or not having a book I want to 
read, but haven't, in the house.  Untenable.  Is there some yardage you've been 
wanting to do, something you can 'pick up' and 'put down?"


Clay wrote:
>I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't know 
>what to do with myself!


"My email sends out an automatic  message. Arachne members,
please ignore it. I read your emails."

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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread Sue Duckles
Noelene have you been looking at the british weather LOL

I have 3 pillows on the go honiton with a flower that needs the filling
finishing.

Bedfordshire ( the other 2), one's an 'edging of Christine Springetts that
needs LOTS doing, and the other is an oak motif, again by Christine, that just
needs finishing!  Not very good at finishes VBG   Then of course there are
the tatting shuttles yes there's something on the go with those, and a bit
of crochet, and himself's jumper to finish and I've only just started that!!!

Can someone give me an extra 24 hours in a day please?  Then I can finish
everything!! ROTFL

Sue in a cold windy East Yorkshire


On 27 Mar 2013, at 20:47, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

> One of my old poems:
>
> My Sanity
>
> I've been out of sorts just lately
> And feeling rather flat.
> The weather's been appalling
> It's even stopped the cat.


My Tatty Blog http://pigminitatty.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: [lace] Nothing on the pillow!

2013-03-27 Thread Clay Blackwell
Oh, I have my knitting...   And have a new pair of socks just started.  I love 
toe-up, two at a time on one long circular needle!  But knitting is what I do 
while DH watches TV...  I need quiet solitude to make lace.  

I have a loom and sewing studio downstairs, but the area is not "pet friendly", 
and so neither have been used since I got my little dog.  

And what I'm itching to do is toss bobbins.  I've concluded that a pretty 
little edging on the vintage roller pillow which belonged to the woman who 
introduced lacemaking to my town is just what I need to do.  That will give me 
a demo pillow, which I haven't had in a while.

Meanwhile, two very handsome grandsons have come to spend their Spring Break 
with us, and I would love to see if either of them wants to make a snake!

Clay

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> Clay, how could you have let something like that happen!!  You don't usually 
> make such mistakes!!  Are there only two pillows in the house?  How are you 
> coping?  Order a roller pillow forthwith and get some useful yardage on it as 
> soon as possible.  Or finish your Christmas stars and bookmarks early.  
> 
> On a more serious note, Since I was 19, a while ago, I have always had at 
> least one knitting project going.  I think I've had at least one ongoing 
> project on a pillow for about the last 15 years at least.  Can't remember 
> before that exactly.  Honestly, I would not be able to tolerate your 
> situation.  It's like being a smoker without cigarettes in the house, or not 
> having a book I want to read, but haven't, in the house.  Untenable.  Is 
> there some yardage you've been wanting to do, something you can 'pick up' and 
> 'put down?"
> 
> 
> Clay wrote:
>> I can't believe this!  I do not have a lace project in progress!  I don't 
>> know what to do with myself!
> 
> 
> "My email sends out an automatic  message. Arachne members,
> please ignore it. I read your emails."

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[lace] Types of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I do bobbin lace, and needlelace mainly these days, but I have, in the past,
done knitted lace, tatting, macramé, crochet, and Hairpin lace.

Included in the word "Needlelace"  is also filet lace, and the embroidery on
net types (Carrickmacross, and Limerick) with Tambour Lace still on my To-Do
list!!

I seem to do more needlelace these days than bobbin lace, but still seem to
have 3 pillows on the go at the present!!!

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Types of lace

2013-03-27 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Oops - I forgot to mention my Knotted laces - I do the Eastern Mediterranean
laces, Oya and Bebilla,  and have tried Puncetto.

I have done hardanger, too, but I count that more as an embroidery rather
than lace.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

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