RE: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Noelene Lafferty
I'd be interested to know if Sulachona is still lacemaking - she was the
inspiration for my "Peacocks and Rainbows" poem.

Noelene at The Angle
noel...@lafferty.com.au

> We did have an Indian lacemaker, Sulachona, on Arachne some years ago. I
> don't know if she is still around?
> 
> Jane Partridge

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[lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Jane Partridge
We did have an Indian lacemaker, Sulachona, on Arachne some years ago. I don't 
know if she is still around?

Jane Partridge 

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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Binnie
I'm not sure if it still happens, in the mid 1970's the Indian 
government were trying to support rural industries by selling their 
wares in government sponsored shops in touristy areas of India, such as 
Delhi and what was Bombay. I bought a number of items in these stores, 
dresses embroidered with mirrors and a nightie and dressing gown hand 
embroidered with handmade bobbin lace trims. I still have many of the 
items I bought since they were very good quality and reasonably cheap 
for what they were. So 40 years ago bobbin lace was being made 
commercially even if on a small scale.


Anna from a very wet Sydney

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[lace] lacing alone or in group

2017-03-07 Thread Agnes Boddington
When doing a simple lace project, I don't mind company and chat . So on Th
evenings when 3 of us gather at my home, I do the easy bits.

One makes Honiton lace, I am doing either Beds or Bucks point, and no. 3
does tatting.

I keep my intricate work for me-time, when I can just disappear in my craft
room with no disturbances - apart from Mike shouting that coffee is ready,
or Tilly (the dog) banging on the door with a ball as she wants to play. 

Later this month I am going on a Lace Guild course, and want to try my hand
at Floral Bucks, and have a fan pattern. I will take some smaller patterns
with me, in case the fan is too much of a challenge.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Jeriames
Dear Alison,
 
There is a long history of nuns making bobbin lace in Asia.  They went  
there as missionaries from European nations.  I have a  Mechlin lace-trimmed 
handkerchief beautifully handmade in the early  20th C. that was probably made 
in Asia.  It is a very convincing copy of an  18th Century lace, shown on 
page 162 of Lady Emily Reigate's Illustrated Guide  to Lace - border of 
basket of flowers alternating with huntsman and  reindeer.  After considerable 
study, several experts concluded that  this copy could have been made in Asia.
 
There are many clues as to the possibility of nuns teaching the finer  
points of lace making in Asia, but it is generally not documented very  well 
and 
would have been very controversial in Europe in the period when  handmade 
bobbin lace was "going out of business".  The wealthy had  connections with 
lace dealers, and could have handmade laces made wherever  they could be 
completed at the least expense.
 
My handkerchief is too small in size to be an 18th C. "flirting  device" 
(clue 1).  It has an Art Deco-style monogram on the  linen (clue 2).  The lace 
is made to turn corners, whereas the  original lace would have been 
gathered at the corners (clue 3).  The  lace is sewn on by a sewing machine 
(clue 
4).  Etc.  
 
This has been studied in a museum using the best possible  magnification 
and photographic equipment, and it has been compared to  the original 18th C. 
lace.  Most collectors would have discarded  the handkerchief, but I felt 
young inexperienced scholars of the future can  learn a lot from examples like 
it.  It was offered as a gift to the museum  - for study purposes.  After 
over a year with no action, I asked that it be  returned.  Museums tend to be 
short-sighted, to the detriment of  future research.
 
Early in Arachne's history, we had a lacemaker from India who had a  
Master's Degree from a London university.  Her children were in  university.  
She 
was employed by one of India's largest corporations.   She made lace as a 
hobby.  So, technically, handmade lace is made in  India.  If it is 
"manufactured", it is probably made by machine  now, with perhaps a few 
exceptions 
(the same as everywhere in the  world).  From time-to-time we do read about 
Asian lacemakers - in  our Guild magazines.  Japanese and Korean lacemakers 
attend OIDFA  Congresses, and there is a good exchange of information and 
teachers in  place.  You have to consider the "economic" impact on womens'  
activities of this kind in some nations.
 
Your question was brief, but there is much to consider.  Is  this helpful 
information? 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 

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Re: [lace] Solo or group lacing

2017-03-07 Thread Gon Homburg
I think I am lucky. My lace group, in which we normally not make lace, is 
making lace together in the summer once a month in a café in the Vondelpark. 
There we can sit inside or outside on the terrace and make lace together. Of 
course I have also my students who make lace in my house. Sometimes I have also 
the opportunity to make lace also. 
For the lace café in the park I mostly take a small pillow with a simple 
pattern on it. At home and when I am alone making lace, I make then a more 
complex pattern, whatever is on the pillow.
For me both ways of making lace are very enjoyable.

Happy lacing,

Gon Homburg, in a sunny Amsterdam, The Netherlands, where spring is coming, the 
daffodils and crocuses are blooming.



> Op 7 mrt. 2017, om 13:31 heeft Helene Ulrich  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Wish I had the option of lacing in a group.  Where I live there are no
> lace groups or fellow lacemakers.   The closest groups are over 2
> hours away.
> 
> Helene
> Loris, SC
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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Adele Shaak
I didn’t see the show and I don’t know about the nuns, but just a few years ago 
I remember having a discussion here on Arachne about hand-made lace still being 
commercially made. There was some report - either on TV or in print, I’m not 
sure - that mentioned two places:  India, and China. I remember that the girls 
in India would get about $1 per day for making lace. I think the Chinese girls 
got less; I may have this wrong. 

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

> Hi 
> 
> Did anyone else in the UK see Sunday night's episode of the Good Kama
> Hospital? For those not in the UK this is a hospital drama set in in India.
> The opening shots showed nuns making bobbin lace to be made into wedding
> dresses.
> 
> Is this accurate, is lace still being made for sale in India today?

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[lace] Fwd: Re: lace-digest V2017 #32

2017-03-07 Thread Susan Rypka
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Susan Rypka" 
Date: Mar 7, 2017 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: lace-digest V2017 #32
To: 
Cc:

Hello everyone, I'm coming out of the lurkers closet to finally respond.
Took me about 15 minutes to trim the last digest. Have to find a better
way. As far as finding a lace group, sometimes you have to make one! Doing
your Bobbin Lace in public will help! You may attract some followers and
hopefully someone who wants to learn. Then you will have a lace buddy. One
local friend saw me tatting at a cultural event and wanted further
instruction on bobbin lace that she had learned in Europe at a cousin's
house. My othere lace buddy and I live an hour apart. In good weather she
comes to my house or I go to her house. My lace group is an hour away in
good weather and good traffic . Once a month we meet in Mpls. So good luck
to you in the south in forming your own lace group. It may seem like hard
work, but very rewarding!


Sue Rypka in thawed Minnesota with few prospects of snow until spring
actually arrives.   suery...@gmail.com

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[lace] Re: lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Witchy Woman
When I first started making lace I remember reading something about tension
and proper use of thread.  They made mention of lace made in India, but used
a picture as an example of shodfily made lace.  It was brought to India by
missionaries.
I did find this article about more modern lacemakers in India...  Lace making
gets a new lease of life
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Peg
In gloomy, rainy Cleveland,  Ohio

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[lace] China in April

2017-03-07 Thread David C Collyer
Dear Friends,

In April I shall be doing a 12 day tour of China performing with Melbourne's
Heidelberg Choral Society. Only 4 of those nights are performances do
there's a fair bit of free time. I was just wondering whether anyone knew
any special lace venues in Shanghai; Beijing; or Xi-An?

After the concerts are over I shall be spending 10 days in Saigon and 19
days in Hoi An to enjoy the food, relax, lose weight and perhaps bring home
some more silk thread :)

 

Thanks

David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Sue Harvey
I saw it too, but it was a fleeting shot ...wish they'd shown more

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK 

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> On 7 Mar 2017, at 10:15, "catherinebar...@btinternet.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I saw it and was surprised to see the nuns making bobbin lace!
> 
> Catherine Barley
> Henley-on-Thames
> UK
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
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> Catherine Barley Needlelace
> www.catherinebarley.com
> 
>> On 7 Mar 2017, at 09:39, Alison Gray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> Did anyone else in the UK see Sunday night's episode of the Good Kama
>> Hospital? For those not in the UK this is a hospital drama set in in India.
>> The opening shots showed nuns making bobbin lace to be made into wedding
>> dresses.
>> 
>> Is this accurate, is lace still being made for sale in India today?
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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Sue Harvey
So sorry, forgot to trim 
Sue M Harvey

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Re: [lace] Solo or group lacing

2017-03-07 Thread Helene Ulrich
Wish I had the option of lacing in a group.  Where I live there are no
lace groups or fellow lacemakers.   The closest groups are over 2
hours away.

Helene
Loris, SC

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Re: [lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Yes I saw it and was surprised to see the nuns making bobbin lace!

Catherine Barley
Henley-on-Thames
UK

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> On 7 Mar 2017, at 09:39, Alison Gray  wrote:
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Did anyone else in the UK see Sunday night's episode of the Good Kama
> Hospital? For those not in the UK this is a hospital drama set in in India.
> The opening shots showed nuns making bobbin lace to be made into wedding
> dresses.
> 
> Is this accurate, is lace still being made for sale in India today?
> 
> 

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[lace] Lace in India

2017-03-07 Thread Alison Gray
Hi 

Did anyone else in the UK see Sunday night's episode of the Good Kama
Hospital? For those not in the UK this is a hospital drama set in in India.
The opening shots showed nuns making bobbin lace to be made into wedding
dresses.

Is this accurate, is lace still being made for sale in India today?

I remember reading Black Narcissus by Rumer Godden [it was later made into a
film].That was set in India and I think that nuns were portrayed
lacemaking. Bu ihat was in the 1930s or 40s.

Alison in Colchester, Essex. UK where it's sunny and there is a scent of
spring in the air
 

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[lace] Solo or group lacing

2017-03-07 Thread lacel...@frontier.com
I enjoy making lace in a group because it's fun to chat with my friends. 
However, I need an easy project for this, one that I've done enough of to do
without having to think very hard.  Anything that takes concentration is done
at home, alone.  Also, getting a project started, or one done on a very heavy
pillow, is also a home project.
Thus, i usually have several projects in process at a time -- and two or three
on small travel pillows so I can choose the project that suits the occasion. 
I also take travel pillows to church meetings or places where I'll have to sit
for a length of time, like getting my car serviced.
I can listen to music, TV or an audiobook story while working complicated
lace, but conversation takes more attention.
In my working days, I only had evenings to make lace.  I still seem to follow
that pattern -- do chores etc in the daytime, and my special projects in the
evening when the TV is on.  Also, my fingers are a bit stiff in the mornings,
so it's easier for them to make lace later in the day.
The exception is for two months of the year during tax season when I work as a
receptionist -- and have to take something to work on between clients.  I am
working on my most difficult project at work -- Miss Channer's Mat.  My
friends are envious that I get paid while making lace.
Alice in Oregon -- where I woke up to snow again, but it didn't stay long. 
We've had 4 times the usual snow this year. 

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