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Re: [lace] Honiton Motifs
Key rings and birthday cards? On 22 Feb 2012, at 10:31, ann.humphreys ann.humphr...@talktalk.net wrote: Over the years I have made quite a lot of Honiton lace motifs. Some of them are in paperweights but there is a limit to how many of those I want to have to dust. A couple of very tiny ones I have placed inside lockets but most of them are put away in a drawer which seems a pity after all the work that has gone into them. Has anyone got any different ideas for displaying these small pieces? Ann Yorkshire UK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1811 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Spencer
Hi My 101 year old Mother-in-Law tells me that a spencer is a fine woollen top with a low round neck and short sleeves that was worn rather like a vest. This would not have had lace on it. An interesting thread. Angela (visiting mother- in-law on the Sussex Coast) On 19 Jan 2012, at 09:15, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote: Dear Arachnids I am making lace for doll's underwear and am currently working on a bodice to go with her drawers. I have been told that this article of clothing is a spencer. Is this correct? I tried Wilipedia but there is no reference. Happy lacemaking. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] staying out of trouble another sewing tool
Hi These crochet hooks are beautiful and probably easier on the hands than the normal crochet hooks, however I use Clover Soft Touch hooks, they aren't nearly as pretty but really easy on my arthritic hands. Regards Angela (in rather grey Sussex) On 8 Jan 2012, at 00:36, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hello All! It's been an interesting weekend so far! Last night my neighbor I attended a painting event at Total Wine (8000 labels, so little time!). In the space of two hours we made an acrylic painting on canvas with tissue paper/newspaper collage--along with 20 other artistes. The wine flowed a good time was had by all. The teacher, a sculptor, explained that this technique works with other collage items such as fabric, LACE, yarn thread. I can hardly wait to try this out when my PA stash is at hand! Today I attended a dyeing event where we used silk ties to dye silk fabric using boiling water, vinegar an aluminum pot. WOW--the results were astonishing not at all what you would expect from the ties! A little Oya on the edges you're very fashionable. On the net, Mary Corbet's Needle 'n Thread site has been offering a giveaway for the Twelve Days of Christmas. When I checked out one of the gifts, I found that the artisan also makes custom made ! cr! ochet hooks in addition to laying tools (for embroidery). www.etsy.com/shop/JRCrafter?ref=seller_info (usual disclaimers!!) I've got my eye on the green black swirl that reminds me of jadeite. What I wanted to ask however--does anyone else use a crochet hook with a specialty handle? Not just from the beautiful tool perspective, but from the bigger handle is easier to hold angle? Noting Peg's frustrations with multiple sewings brought back unhappy memories of struggling with that thin shaft. :-( Just wondered if it would be worth contacting this dude to see if he will make one with a tiny hook? He offers a range of sizes (Boye) but not small enough. I'm also wondering if anyone has used a tambour hook? Suggestions? Tomorrow is Oshagatsu at Morikami--Year of the Dragon. Happy New Year to All! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Crochet hooks
Hi My mother was very dubious when I bought her one of the Clover soft touch crochet hook, saying she was quite happy with her usual one. However a couple of weeks later she couldn't stop singing it's praises. Not only is it easy to hold but the thread slips nicely on the shaft, I would recommend it to everyone with or without arthritis. Regards Angela (in crisp Sussex) On 30 Nov 2011, at 08:46, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I used to do fine crochet a lot - long before I discovered bobbin lace. When I developed rheumatoid arthritis I found I couldn't do it any more because I couldn't hold the fine shaft of the hook and also couldn't keep the hook from turning the wrong way up - probably because of not being able to hold the hook properly. Then I saw the Clover soft touch hooks which have a flat shaft with a soft pad inset. Rather than go out and buy something I still couldn't use, I cut a small rectangular piece of etherfoam and pushed the shaft into it - a bit like sewing up, along, down - to see if it would make any difference. It did. So I then invested in several Clover soft touch hooks of different sizes and am happily crocheting again. There are now a few other companies making hooks of a similar design as well as what I consider to be hideous thick, round-shafted plastic ones, which I don't think would work as well because its the flat section which helps keep the hook in the right position in the fingers. Besides which the hook can't be made small enough in plastic. This type of hook would also probably help those who have crocheted with thicker yarns and are having a bit of difficulty changing to very thin threads. Here's one example: http://www.barnyarns.co.uk/Clover-Soft-Touch-Crochet-Hooks-Various-Sizes-pr-28662.html Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] UK Lace Magazine
Hi What a lovely thought - sitting in a deckchair in the garden reading - we have what the weatherman called 'cyclonic gloom' damp and dreary weather to the rest of us! Angela from gloomy Sussex On 8 Nov 2011, at 18:20, Janis Savage lacem...@mweb.co.za wrote: Hi Pene I have just received my Lace magazine today and on a quick perusal it looks like a good read. I must find a nice quiet time with no chance of interuptions to sit in a deckchair in the garden and enjoy it. Hope you have received yours too. Janis in Honeydew, South Africa -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Pinpoint, and is believed to be clean. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] UK Lace Guild magazine
Hi Yes received mine at end of October. Hope you get yours on Monday. Regards Angela (in Sussex) On 5 Nov 2011, at 09:30, pene piip p...@eggo.org wrote: I'm just wondering if anyone has recently received their copy. I was informed that they were mailed out last week. Pene - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Ning software
Hi Just looked on this site, it's brilliant, you can see all the messages in a row and a picture of each member (or any photo you chose to put up). I haven't really been following the thread, is this really going to happen for Arachne or is it just an idea? Either way it has my vote. Thanks to everyone who makes Arachne possible it's great to have so many knowledgeable lace 'friends' and to keep up with the news from around the world. More power to your elbow! Angela (in Sussex, uk, where the sun is trying to come out) On 2 Nov 2011, at 00:15, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Of course the thing that make Arachne what it is, is the people. The people would be the same, hopefully, no matter what the software. We used to have software that wouldn't accept html. Fortunately Avital was able to upgrade the software, or debug it, or whatever she did that made it possible to go on with more modernized software. I have to agree with Lorelei that I love the Ning software. If you go to _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/) you can see it in action. It is not Facebook, so there is no reason to be afraid that Facebook problems will arise. The advantage of using Ning is that you can insert photos very easily into the text, so that you can be having a discussion in which you insert a diagram, or a photo. You can insert a series of photos showing all the steps in a process. Beginners are able to post pictures of their work, and receive feed back, or else pose questions that can then be answered with visual responses, pictures or diagrams, as well as text. I particularly like to scan a small area of lace at high resolution and then start arguments about what is happening in the lace :-) When people disagree with me, I can consider their argument, scan more areas, mark them up with arrows to indicate the tricky part, draw diagrams, etc. They can produce diagrams to support their point of view, and in the end we all know a lot more than we did before. I find it to be quite exciting. The Arachne software is lacking this visual component. Although it is possible to announce that you have just posted a photo on the webshots site, and for people to go to that photo, it is not as fluid as inserting the photos directly into the text. Here are some examples of using visuals in the text. Devon Here are links to some pages of discussion from the BEGINNERS group last year. _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?g roupUrl=beginnersgroupId=5118721%3AGroup%3A215id=5118721%3ATopic%3A897pag e=8#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?gro upUrl=beginnersgroupId=5118721:Group:215id=5118721:Topic:897page=8#comments) _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?g roupUrl=beginnersgroupId=5118721%3AGroup%3A215id=5118721%3ATopic%3A897pag e=10#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?groupUrl=beginnersgroupId=5118721:Group:215id=5118721:Topic: 897page=10#comments) Here is a discussion under an ALENCON photograph with several detailed photos, but no diagrams. _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/alencon-3-cl?context=albumalbumId=511 8721%3AAlbum%3A4927xgi=test-locale=exposeKeys=xgsi=id=5118721%3APhoto%3 A7723groupId=groupUrl=xg_pw=xg_disable_customizations=page=1#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/alencon-3-cl?context=albumalbumId=511 8721:Album:4927xgi=test-locale=exposeKeys=xgsi=id=5118721:Photo:7723gr oupId=groupUrl=xg_pw=xg_disable_customizations=page=1#comments) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] kat stitch question
Hi Having only briefly followed the thread on teaching methods I thought it was a good place to let off steam and for teachers to understand our methods are not always seen in a positive light by our pupils. However I feel strongly that Arachne is NOT the place for PERSONAL attacks. What do other people think? Angela in drizzly Sussex On 31 Oct 2011, at 07:38, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote: Hi Arachnids Re: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:54:36 +1100 From: Anna Binnie l...@binnie.id.au Subject: Re: [lace] diagrams. (long) I should at this point mention that after attending one of Alex's floral Buck workshops recently I was very disappointed that she point blank refused to answer one of my questions concerning holes in kat stitch ground entering the main bucks floral pattern. She refused to answer this question twice. I do not think this helps students understand lace if a tutor refuses to answer questions. Anna from a balmy sunny Sydney I would like to point out that when Anna asked me to explain a complex problem concerning kat stitch she was not working on a kat stitch pattern. As she asked me half hour before the end of the end of the workshop at the convention there was not time to start looking for suitable examples and go into a lengthy explanation. If she was really interested in kat stitch she could have asked me for a pattern when I contacted her prior to the convention and would have had a week in which to work on it and ask all the questions. Best wishes from an unusually warm, if damp, October day. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Thread conundrum
Couldn't agree more, Brenda's book is a 'must have' Regards Angela in Sussex where the sun has just come out. On 11 Sep 2011, at 08:17, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Peg wrote: Could someone please point me to a chart of how threads compare? I had a chart at one time, but it has disappeared. The best thread chart is the book produced by our own Brenda Paternoster, available direct from her: Threads for Lace, Edition 5 by Brenda Paternoster http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/threads.html or from Holly Van Sciver in the US: http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/1Books.html#BobbinLaceManuals Brenda adds appendices to each edition on her web page as new threads come to light. Personally I couldn't manage without it. A good example occurred recently when I was going to demonstrated and decided on a simple piece - a torchon purse pendant from Susane Thompson's book of the same name. Hadn't got the thread stated in the pattern, so looked it up in the book and routed around in my stash until I found an equivalent. Without the book I'd have been stumped because it was quite a thick thread by lacemaking standards. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] picots
Hi I have always used Alice's method to make my picots. I really struggled to make the threads 'snap' together when I first started Bucks Point, and this method was suggested to me by Pam Nottingham. It was supposed to be until I got the hang of it but I never changed back! Regards Angela On 15 Aug 2011, at 12:11, Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com wrote: That is the type I do, but have never heard of putting the pin away from the pattern. I will definately have to try this. the way I learned and have been working is as you describe except straight into the pinhole I have worked 3 small strips and managed to get one long loop on one of them and 2 on another which is really annoying. I think the spray of starch has helped reduce the impact of one of them. Sue T Dorset UK This picot has two threads twisted, then the bottom thread is pinned in place with pin in fingers, but the top thread is flipped around the pin. The cure to not catching a second pin when 'flipping' is simple. When looping the first pin, pin it an inch outside your pattern. Flip the second thread around (no other pins near it). Then carefully lift the pin with the threads around it and move it gently into it's proper place. Keep the tension mild until final pinning, then tension the threads, make the final twist(s). Wow!! Perfect picot and NO extra pins. Does this help? Alice in Oregon -- where we went to the coast for lunch today with the church's Lunch Bunch. Blue sky, no wind, no rain. Beautiful! - Original Message - From: Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com I have just made a third small strip of lace with picots around the outside edge, each one getting tidier than the last of course. I dont do them very often but I have found that on the first strip I have caught one of the loops over two pins instead of one, closer to the end than the beginning of the lace. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] How do you sit?
Hi I use a 'kneeling chair' when my back is bad, this enables your knees to take the stain rather than your back. I bought the cheapest one I could find several years ago and it has been fine. The rest of the time I sit on a dining chair with my stand pulled as close as is comfortable so that I don't bend too much! Hope this helps Regards Angela (in sunny/cloudy Sussex On 14 Aug 2011, at 09:52, Ilse Depaepe bsbil...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear lacers, I need some advise on how to sit and where to make lace. I keep having problems with my back and/or neck. I first sat in my settee with pillows in my back. Now I'm on a chair. What is the best place to sit? Any feedback would be much appreciated. Happy lacemaking! Ilse D. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Announcement - Lace exhibit opening August 20, 2011 Atkinson, IL Museum
Hi Please can you tell me where this museum is? I have googled it but just got 'Kate Atkinson's Night at the Museum! Thanks Angela (in sunny Sussex) On 14 Aug 2011, at 17:28, Chris Brill-Packard cbpu...@yahoo.com wrote: August 20, 2011 will be the opening day of the lace collection of the Holevoet family as arranged by Art Holevoet. The museum opens at 9 am and at 10 am the lace event will begin. Lace show is from 10 am - 4 pm. Aktinson Muesuem is next to the town hall at 402 N. State Street, Atkinson, IL Ladies from the Moline Belgian Cultural Center will be demonstrating lacemaking from mid-morning until early afternoon. While the large collection of framed lace will remain a part of the permanent collection, this opening day event is being planned to stimulate intereste in lace and in the museum of ATKINSON, IL. Art Holevoet will be pleased to hear from you if you are planning to attend or if you have questions. Art Holevoet phone number is: (309) 936-7621. Chris Brill-Packard - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lacemaker patterns wanted
Hi There is also a lovely one on the front of Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti's book 'Nyplatkaammme - Let's make lace'. If you can't borrow it from someone, I'm sure I could send you a copy of the pattern as long as it was for your own use. Angela In sunny Sussex On 10 Jul 2011, at 21:44, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: I am looking for patterns of lacemakers making lace. I know there are several around. A simple line-drawing can also be turned into lace fairly easily. Some needlepoint patterns can be converted to bobbin lace. I have the Kortelahti pattern that's in one of her books. I've been given two or three that I'm not sure of the original source. I just made a lacemaker based on a paper cutting that was printed in a 1994 IOLI Bulletin. It was a fun challenge. Do you have a pattern you can share with meor tell me what book to look in? Size is not an issue. Thanks, Alice in Oregon -- enjoying some nice summer weather, and the new paint on my house. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Tea Cosy
Hi What a lovely idea and so nice to be able to use your lace. Why not start by looking on the Internet for all different styles of tea cosy before you make your final decision. Then mock up a couple in paper or plain fabric to get the shape right. While your doing this think of all the different ways you could add lace. Do you really want to make it all in lace or would it be more impressive if you just added a border or insertion? Perhaps an insertion of strawberry coloured lace with a soft green background, to match the colours in the teapot. This insertion could go around the cosy or up one side and down the other. You could dye your fabric and thread to match/compliment the teapot. If that's too messy there are lots of lovely shades in the coats cotton range, you would just need to enlarge the pattern a bit. Think 'out of the box'! What about copying an old knitted tea cosy in fabric, the ones that had the spout and handle showing but were gathered at the top, then you could gather a lace edging to make a flower and add stamens in beads? Hope this gives you a starting point, have fun deciding what you make and let us have a picture of the finished tea cosy. Have fun Angela, from not quite so sunny Sussex. On 11 Jul 2011, at 11:44, Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Recently, it occurred to me that what I need is a tea cosy, and it suddenly dawned on me that I could decorate it with some lace. But as I mostly make Bucks point ground edgings, I'm somewhat at a loss to know how to go about it. Who better to ask for advice than my Arachne friends? So here is a note about the teapot, and my limitations as a lacemaker, and I look forward to any comments you care to make. The teapot itself is a small one, holding only enough to fill the two matching cups. It is white china, decorated with a design of strawberry plants - green leaves on curling stems, white flowers with yellow centres, and plump red berries; and there are some fine gilt lines on the rim, handle, spout and lid. It seems to me that it would look awkward to have a complete dome of a tea cosy. What I see is something like a disc-shaped top, with two attached panels to cover the sides. These would be made in quilted material, maybe fastened below the handle and spout with buttons and loops or ribbon ties. The lace needed, then, would be a round piece for the top and two oblongs for the sides, mounted on the quilted pieces but smaller than them. The top would be about three and a half inches diameter, or a little less. The side pieces no more than about five inches wide and three inches deep. My own limitations are that I've only made Bucks lace edgings for years, although I did start with Torchon. It's been a long time since I made any Torchon lace, but I'd enjoy learning it again, and I think it might be more suitable for a tea cosy. I don't think I have any patterns suitable for the pieces. The circular piece might be a bonnet back, I suppose, but I've no idea how to find the panels. I've never designed any lace patterns - and don't want to start now! Does anyone have any good ideas? I'm really excited about this project and I'm longing to get going, but don't know where to start. Awaiting your replies with interest, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where high Summer makes us grateful for the shady beech hangers). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Making Lace a different way
Hi Help! Does anyone know of a website showing continental lace made slowly enough that I could copy the movements? I am a Midlands Lacemaker but have problems with my hands and find it painful to keep picking up my bobbins so need to learn a different method. I have been lent lots of different types of continental bobbins to try and need to learn a) How to use them properly and b) how to stop the bobbins rolling all over the place and unravelling the thread. Alternatively, would anyone living within say, 30 miles of Crowborough in East Sussex be able and willing to show me? Thanks Angela - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
