Re: [lace] Sewing Out

[Vivienne Walton]

Hi, I have been using fray check for nearly 40 years but as Joepie says, do a 
double knot on each pair. Dip a pin in the Fray check bottle and just touch the 
middle of each knot individually. Leave strictly alone, about 30 minutes, 
before touching it. My lace was going out to up to 31 shows ( Bigginslace) a 
year and not one piece has discoloured. Vivienne 

> On 15 Aug 2016, at 20:11, J-D Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Hi fellow Arachnids,
> 
> Any glue /head cement (whatever that is) or other chemical compounds should
> not be used on lace that you want to treasure for a long time. It will stain
> your lace The tiniest bit of a glue such as Fray Check picked up on the end of
> a pin might just be used on the knots of lace which will be used  and washed
> regularly (such as lace on a T-shirt).
> 
> Please try to learn to knot off properly and where necessary and it is at all
> possible sew the threads back into the lace.
> 
> In very fine laces the threads from bobbins taken out in densely worked areas
> can frequently be just thrown out and later cut close without even knotting
> it.
> 
> Joepie, Sussex, UK
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bev Walker
> Sent: 15 August 2016 19:07
> To: Dan Brooks
> Cc: Lace
> Subject: Re: [lace] Sewing Out
> 
> Hello Dan and everyone
> 
> I'd say give it a try! There are water-based as well as the lacquer-based
> head cements, yes?
> Ether way, I don't think very much is needed to secure the thread end, the
> tiniest of dabs, and shouldn't affect the rest of the lace.
> 
> Other items used in fly-tying and -fishing that are handy for lacemaking
> include -
> - hackle pliers to grab a very short thread end, such as when a bobbin
> thread breaks and we need to tie in a new thread
> - leader line for an excellent reusable magic thread,a sewing out aid in
> itself
> - the fly tying vice for a third hand when required
> - monofilament instead of wire for spangling
> and
> - I like the tools for dealing with split rings when making markers for
> knitting
> 
> This just might be the solution (pun intended) to the joins coming apart in
> a large lace ornament I made.
> off to raid someone's fly-tying kit (again)
> 
> Why not use head cement after tying the knot?
>> .
>> Thoughts?
> --
> Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
> Canada
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Re: [lace] ADMIN: Survey Request - please send privately

[Vivienne Walton]

Please don't leave. I used to be on Arachne but it got not nice. I left. After 
many years I have come back. It isn't as much fun but if interesting people 
leave it will not get better and maybe fold. We need less drawn out fussing, 
more David emails and a bit of humor. Arachne is very dry now. And no one had 
to enter your survey. Please stay. Your survey is interesting even to,us in 
England. Vivienne 

> On 1 Aug 2016, at 01:55, H M Clarke  wrote:
> 
> Wow, and people wonder why the list is so quiet these days. Sadly the 
> animosity remains. I have been on this list for a very long time and have 
> seen many ups and downs. Each down causes long term impact to the list 
> members. 
> 
> I'm bringing the, totally voluntary, survey to an early end. I will send any 
> analysis privately to those people who kindly - either privately or to the 
> list - replied. I will not be troubling the list any further. 
> 
> Now, what nefarious deeds can I possibly use the information I have gleaned 
> for? Hmm, I'm curious about that now ...
> 
> Helen
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 16:49, Anna Binnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Everyone
>> Thank you Avital for bringing the issue of the survey onto the list. I 
>> personally am annoyed with all the individual responses.
>> 
>> I did not respond to the survey because I was not told why it was being 
>> carried out, 'curiosity' is not sufficient. The survey is not annonymous 
>> since you are responding with your email addresses. What happens to the 
>> results was not clearly articulated either. Before you all claim but it is 
>> amongst us and it could be fun. Think about the dark side.
>> 
>> Who are we We all claim to be lacemakers or have an interest in 
>> lacemaking, but could there be someone who wants to hack into our accounts 
>> or find out about us for their own purposes.
>> 
>> Loyalty cards collect all sorts of information for their customers and while 
>> we may get a 'bonus' something, they get a profile of our shopping and some 
>> times sell this information onto other parties.
>> 
>> Please be aware of your own privacy and your own security and be careful 
>> about what information you give out about yourself and to whom.
>> 
>> Anna from a cloudy but warm Sydney
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Re: [lace] Survey Request

[Vivienne Walton]

C and D

> On 30 Jul 2016, at 07:35, Catherine Barley  
> wrote:
> 
> Catherine Barley Needlelace
> www.catherinebarley.com
> 
> Original message
> From : hcl...@mac.com
> Date : 29/07/2016 - 20:17 (GMTDT)
> To : lace@arachne.com
> Subject : [lace] Survey Request
> 
> I would like you please to send me your answer to the questions below. I will 
> collate them all and send a summary to the list. 
> 
> 1) Can you 'see' a picture in your head?
> 
> A) Yes, but only if I have just seen it in reality 
> B) Yes, but only if I have ever seen it
> C) Yes, even if I have to imagine what it would look like 
> D) No, when I shut my eyes I just see darkness 
> 
> 2) What is/was your involvement with lace in YOUR opinion 
> 
> A) I make/made lace from existing designs
> B) I make/made lace that includes my own designs
> C) I am/was a lace designer who also makes lace
> D) I am interested in lace and/or lacemaking but I don't make any
> 
> You can just tell me something like "I'm 1C and 2B" or you can tell me more 
> detail, the choice is yours. Please do answer though!
> 
> There are no wrong answers and none are 'better' than the others so please be 
> honest. I will keep your individual answers confidential and only provide the 
> list with a statistical summary. 
> 
> This is a topic that has intrigued me since my childhood. I have wondered 
> what the ratio would be for artists and craftsmen of various types and how it 
> impacts their ability and willingness to try various crafts. I have seen how 
> various members of my family developed likes and dislikes based on their 
> answer. I would now like to understand this wonderful group who have all been 
> drawn to lacemaking in some way. 
> 
> If anyone has any questions then do please ask. 
> 
> Let's say that you have until 10th August to send me your answers. Oh, and I 
> will give you my personal answers with the results ;-)
> 
> Many thanks in advance, Helen (on the summery west coast of mainland Canada)
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Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

[Vivienne Walton]

I totally agree. I have perhaps or at least one of the largest number of 
Torchon lace patters that I sell at Biggins. After you have made your design 
and the lace its self so you know it has no problems, you have an item to sell 
for perpetuity. To make lace and to even charge 50p per hour the lace is either 
nearly given away or too expensive to buy except by the very rich. It isn't an 
art it is a beautiful craft as far as I am concerned. My long gone lace lace 
teacher, Pauline Robinson used to say " lace is for giving with love, not for 
selling" I have, over the years taught many, many people my craft. I used to 
tell them that each one of them had to bring into our craft at least one other 
new lacemaker. Vivienne 

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 23:42, Marianne Gallant  wrote:
> 
> I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. We don't need 
> young 'artists' to  continue the art of lacemaking. If you come right 
> down to it, it is not really an 'art form' like a painting you put on a 
> wall. It never really was, it was mainly something to decorate clothing 
> or household linens. It was more a beautification of a utilitarian item, 
> not something you hung on a wall. Yes there is some of that now made, 
> but it wasn't considered an art form that could be collected, or that 
> increased in value.
> What we need is to encourage young people to study lace and become 
> designers or teachers. Publish patterns, write books, but going in the 
> direction of making it into an art form, and make a living out of just 
> making items is not going to work. Really, most ordinary people don't 
> spend money on these kind of things, unless they want some handmade lace 
> to add to a wedding veil, or a christening gown. Even there, most of the 
> time it is machine made lace that gets used (think royal wedding gowns). 
> But you can make a living by designing patterns and selling them. And 
> even there you can go the 'artistic' route, but to try and make a living 
> selling finished lace items is just not an option, most art is bought by 
> very rich people who could care less about a lace item, or it is an art 
> installation put up by a big company or a government. But those things 
> are rare, and not something where as an artist you can make money.
> Really, to replace the people that we are losing, we need designers and 
> teachers, not 'artists'. And we should not be letting them think they 
> can make money selling their creations, but they can by selling the 
> patterns. Knitters, crocheters, quilters and for that matter tatters 
> don't make a lot of money selling their finished products, I hear them 
> all complaining that people don't want to 'pay' for labour, often not 
> even enough for the materials. But they have no problem selling the 
> patterns, and/or writing books. It just takes too many hours to create 
> and item, which means you can't get even minimum wage for your labour.
> 
> *Marianne*
> 
> Marianne Gallant
> Vernon, BC Canada
> m...@shaw.ca
> http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/
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Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

[Vivienne Walton]

I do know Julia Roberts knits. Some very fine knitting. I have seen a picture 
of a shawl she knitted. Vivienne 

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 18:29, Devon Thein  wrote:
> 
> I guess there must be some celebrities who do knitting or crocheting since
> someone said there was. The last one I recall was Rosie Grier who gained
> some notoriety for needle point. .I have to say I am so far from even
> knowing who celebrities are these days that it is embarrassing. But, my
> limited observation of the millennials, my daughter included, is that they
> really don't watch mass market television. They can't afford cable
> hook-ups. Instead they watch youtubes on their computers and stream movies
> from Netflix and Amazon. This means that they can stream DIY youtubes
> whenever they want, including lace ones. In fact, there is a millennial
> artist in Brooklyn who has taught herself bobbin lace from youtubes,
> exclusively.
> Devon
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Re: [lace] Need help to get on to Flickr please

[Vivienne Walton]

I too couldn't get on it. Vivienne 

> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:20, Brian Lemin  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry to trouble you but I do not know how to get on to "Arachne's
> Flickr" to view photos.
> 
> 
> 
> I would be glad of a helping hand.
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Brian
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Re: [lace] Design Challenge

[Vivienne Walton]

Sorry but I am not on face book. Vivienne 

> On 27 Jun 2016, at 03:03, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> 
> 
> I am an administrator on the facebook
>  Lace8 Users Group that is
> running a lace design challenge at the moment and would like to tell you
> more about it - let's be honest, I am hoping for more entries - even though
> it is a wee bit late as entries close Tuesday 5th July.
> 
> 
> 
> The idea is to use Lace8 to design a piece of lace that uses some designated
> elements. You do not need to actually work the design 
> 
> 
> 
> The rules are 
> 
> 
> 
> Lace8 Users Group Mid 2016 Design Challenge
> 
> Using Lace8 you are hereby challenged to design a piece of torchon, using
> the following elements: 
> . Footside (any)
> . Ground (any)
> . spider (5 pins per side)
> . narrow trail (2 pins)
> . element of your choice _
> . element of your choice _
> 
> RULES - there are always rules LOL
> 
> . It must be your own design - if you collaborate you MUST acknowledge all
> parties
> . A maximum of 5 entries per person
> . All entries to be emailed to the administrator, Jenny Brandis by Midnight
> of Tuesday, 5th July 2016 Western Australian Time (+8:00 GMT)
>  je...@brandis.com.au 
> . Provide your entry in LC8 format with your C details to the side (so it
> can be hidden during judging)
> . Judging will be by popular vote 
> . Each entry will be placed into a non printable PDF file (1 entry per
> page). The PDF file will be added to the Lace8 Users Group FILES section by
> the following Tuesday (12 July) ready for you to view and vote. 
> . This is where everyone can have a vote - actually 3 votes each. Voting
> will be for the page number (remember the C details are hidden at this
> stage).
> . Voting is done by emailing Jenny at  
> je...@brandis.com.au with the subject line Lace8 Voting and your votes
> listed in the text area. 
> . Wednesday 13th July to Friday 15 July the votes will be collated into a
> spreadsheet prior to the announcement of the voting results on the Lace8
> Users Group on Saturday 16th July.
> . Copyright of the work remains that of the designer
> 
> Please print out these rules 
> 
> By submitting an entry into the Lace8 Users Group Mid 2016 Design Challenge
> the designer acknowledge that the organisers will respect copyright by
> making the PDF (provided for voting considerations via the Lace8 Users Group
> on facebook) password protected to prevent printing and editing. 
> By submitting an entry the designer acknowledge that their entry/ies will be
> incorporated into the judging PDF (with copyright not visible for judging
> purposes) and in the event of being in the top 3 entries will be available
> for long term viewing (with copyright visible) as a picture in the photos
> section of the Lace8 Users Group facebook page.
> 
> The designer retain the copyright on their original design and by entering
> do not waive their ownership rights.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jenny Brandis
> 
> 
> 
> je...@brandis.com.au  
> 
> www.brandis.com.au    online since 1995
> 
> 
> 
> I can say to future generations that I was born BEFORE the Internet - my
> parents generation invented it!!
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Re: [lace] spanish lace pins

[Vivienne Walton]

It makes me think of when I did demonstrations with my lace. People would be 
stood looking and I would hear some says " she knows what to by the codes on 
the bobbins" I would have had to have a mind like a computer . I then spangled 
all my bobbins in green but it didn't help! Vivienne 

> On 16 Jun 2016, at 11:20, ELIZABETH PASS  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the gobbledegook!  I'll never understand this e-mail program.
> 
> What I sent and what I received were totally diferent.
> 
> While searching the internet for Spanish lace bobbins I came across a website 
> selling pins.  Here's their description.
> 
> Spanish lace pins.
> These short redheads come all the way from the oldest pin factory in Spain. 
> Traditional lace making pins that were originally colour coded for following 
> a pattern but we like them just in flame red!  0.59mm X 26mm (approx 200 pins)
> 
> Has anyone heard of coloured coded pins for following a pattern?
> 
> Liz Pass
> in Poole, Dorset
> overcast sky but not cold
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[lace] Lace site

[Vivienne Walton]

Hi every one. I want to explain that our site Bigginslace.co.uk is back and is 
not hacked. Google don't like we have moved to EKM and we don't understand the 
instructions to remove it. I am sorry I rejoined too later for the bookmark 
event. I love bookmarks and will certainly join the next event. Vivienne 

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Re: [lace] Honiton

[Vivienne Walton]

Yes you are quite right, sorry,  Vivienne

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On 11 Oct 2012, at 17:10, Claire Allen  wrote:

> I may be mistaken, but I think Vivienne was talking about visiting the Lace 
> Shop in Honiton rather than the Lace museum.
> 
> Claire
> 
> 
> Claire Allen
> www.bonitocrafts.co.uk
> Crafty stuff I want to show off.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11 Oct 2012, at 16:03, jeria...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Dear Vivienne,
>> 
>> If you asked the lace ladies in the Honiton Museum, I think you may have  
>> been told that the motifs and small pieces they sell that are inserted in  
>> jewelry are from damaged pieces of larger lace - of no collectible value 
>> because  of overall condition, but recycled as a means of earning money to 
>> pay 
>> for the  museum's expenses.
> 

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Re: [lace] Honiton lace shop

[Vivienne Walton]

I went many many years ago and was distressed to see they took large pieces of 
lace apart to sell in smaller sections. Vivienne

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On 10 Oct 2012, at 17:53, Julie Ourom  wrote:

> I was in Honiton a year or so back, spent a weekend there.  I thought I wrote
> a posting to Arachne, but maybe not.  The lace shop was definitely closed,
> very little traces of it.  The museum was open, just winding down for the
> season at the time, and well worth a visit.  Lots to buy in the shop!  It's a
> lovely little town to spend time wandering around - lots of nice cafes (but
> surprisingly little in the way of accommodation), lace and other murals on
> exterior walls and very pretty countryside.
> 
> 
> JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon/Vancouver, BC
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