Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA

2005-10-13 Thread suzy
i'm going to leave this letter as is just so everyone will know on lace
chat what the conversation was about.  i also said in the email, if i
didn't say this clearly, that i wasn't sure and that i had heard from
someone else it was considered antique after 20 years old.  this is
obviously not true and i wouldn't want to be responsible for misleading
anyone or seeming to accuse anyone or any seller of misusing this label
to make a sale.

i appreciate knowing what erra a seller is really advertising by the
responses i've already gotten from other arachians.  so don't be so
worried.  i am not giving others the idea that america is allowed to
cheat the public by lieing about the age of their items.  this is not
true at all.  someone even printed the rules at to what age means what
in america, so it was clearly explained and i'll find the email the
nice and well informed person sent and send it to lace chat so everyone
will know what the u.s. really considers to be antique, which is the
same as the u.k. being the item at 100 years old.


  
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 10/12/05 5:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> > > Suzy wrote:
> > > 
> > > " if its older than 20 years most old things are considered
> antique."
> > > 
> > > In the UK an antique has to be at least 100 years old, so now
> > > anything made 
> > > in or before 1905 is an antique. Next year it will be anything
> made
> > > in or 
> > > before 1906. Anything younger than 100 years is a "collectable".
> Made
> > > in the 
> > > last 20 years would be termed a "modern collectable". I think
> there a
> > > few 
> > > exceptuions, but 100 years is the general rule.
> > > 
> > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
> > 
> 
> Dear Suzy and Other Collectors,
> 
> Twenty years old is not considered an antique in the USA.  Perhaps
> some 
> irresponsible sellers on eBay may have given you this impression, but
> it is 
> incorrect.  It is false advertising.
> 
> Let us not give people all over the world the wrong impression.  
> "Collectible" may be used, if you like.  But remember that
> "Collectible" is almost 
> anything these days.  Then, there is the matter of "Vintage".  There
> are people who 
> deliberately age items to make them appear to be "Vintage".  Beware!
> 
> 
> In the USA, all purchases abroad must be declared on Department of
> the 
> Treasury Customs Declaration forms whether dutiable or not, and
> whether obtained by 
> purchase, as a gift, or otherwise.  If an item is 100 years old or
> older it is 
> considered an "Antique", making it exempt from duty taxation.  You
> must be 
> able to prove it is "Antique", which collectors often do by obtaining
> a receipt 
> from an antique dealer from whom the item was purchased.
> 
> If you want to get technical and formal, there are many descriptions
> of what 
> is antique that can be obtained from the government and from antiques
> 
> organizations.
> 
> Perhaps someone would like to send this to Lace Chat, if this thread
> has been 
> discussed there.  We must not give such inaccurate information as to
> state 
> that "If it's older than 20 years most old things are considered
> antique."  This 
> would be false advertising.  It could get some of our Arachnes into
> serious 
> trouble.  
> 
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
> 
>

from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a.



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Re: [lace] Antique = 100+ Years in the USA

2005-10-13 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 10/12/05 5:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> > Suzy wrote:
> > 
> > " if its older than 20 years most old things are considered antique."
> > 
> > In the UK an antique has to be at least 100 years old, so now
> > anything made 
> > in or before 1905 is an antique. Next year it will be anything made
> > in or 
> > before 1906. Anything younger than 100 years is a "collectable". Made
> > in the 
> > last 20 years would be termed a "modern collectable". I think there a
> > few 
> > exceptuions, but 100 years is the general rule.
> > 
> > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 
> 

Dear Suzy and Other Collectors,

Twenty years old is not considered an antique in the USA.  Perhaps some 
irresponsible sellers on eBay may have given you this impression, but it is 
incorrect.  It is false advertising.

Let us not give people all over the world the wrong impression.  
"Collectible" may be used, if you like.  But remember that "Collectible" is 
almost 
anything these days.  Then, there is the matter of "Vintage".  There are people 
who 
deliberately age items to make them appear to be "Vintage".  Beware!


In the USA, all purchases abroad must be declared on Department of the 
Treasury Customs Declaration forms whether dutiable or not, and whether 
obtained by 
purchase, as a gift, or otherwise.  If an item is 100 years old or older it is 
considered an "Antique", making it exempt from duty taxation.  You must be 
able to prove it is "Antique", which collectors often do by obtaining a receipt 
from an antique dealer from whom the item was purchased.

If you want to get technical and formal, there are many descriptions of what 
is antique that can be obtained from the government and from antiques 
organizations.

Perhaps someone would like to send this to Lace Chat, if this thread has been 
discussed there.  We must not give such inaccurate information as to state 
that "If it's older than 20 years most old things are considered antique."  
This 
would be false advertising.  It could get some of our Arachnes into serious 
trouble.  

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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