Re: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
On 19 May 2004, at 00:07, Samrah wrote: I know I need Brenda's book, but as I am just starting the book list is really long. How does Brok 36/2 compare to Brokman's 35/3? I know we are dealing with 2 ply vs. 3 ply, but are they close in size? Assuming you mean Bockens 35/3: There's quite a lot of difference. Brok 36/2 is a two ply cotton and Bockens 35/3 is a three ply linen. Linen always works up a bit stiffer and with more 'body' than cotton, and with similar fibres a three ply is firmer and rounder than a two ply. Size wise these threads are pretty different too - I measured the Brok 36/2 as 32 wraps/cm which would suit a 2mm grid for torchon. The Bockens 35/3 is only 18 wraps/cm and would suit a 3mm torchon grid Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
>>>From: Samrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know I need Brenda's book, but as I am just starting the book list is really long. How does Brok 36/2 compare to Brokman's 35/3? I know we are dealing with 2 ply vs. 3 ply, but are they close in size?<<< As a general rule (within cotton, or within linen, etc.), x/3 is half again the thickness of x/2. The upper number indicates the diameter of each ply and the lower number is the number of plies. So each ply of 36/2 and 35/3 are the same thickness but there are half-again as many plies in the latter. It's harder to compare different fibers because the measure for linen is different for the measure for cotton. So linen 36/2 is much heavier than cotton 36/2. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
Yep, Bockens, I oopsed! Thanks again, Cinde - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
I know I need Brenda's book, but as I am just starting the book list is really long. How does Brok 36/2 compare to Brokman's 35/3? I know we are dealing with 2 ply vs. 3 ply, but are they close in size? Thanks ever so much guys, Cinde - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
Mark Brok 36/2 is just about mid way between the two sizes of Tanne that you have. Egyptian cotton 60/2 is very similar to the Tanne 50. The tatting cottons are marginally thicker, but if they are double spun (DMC Special Dentelles etc) the lace will be crisper and won't fold so well as with Brok. Twilley's Gold Dust is a thick metallic thread - the type that is made like a very long length of crochet chain (US single crochet?). If you pull at the end it will unravel. Brenda On 18 May 2004, at 17:29, Mark, aka Tatman wrote: I will be doing the Springett torchon fan and it calls for 36/2 Brok thread and also Gold Dust(not sure what that is other than a metallic). I don't have the Brok or Gold Dust and would like to find the equivalent. I do have Tanne size 30 and 50 and Egyptian Cotton size 60/2. And in my tatting thread stash I have TONS of size 70-80 tatting cotton and also some finer threads like Corona Cotton size 100 and 160(very strong cotton cord perfect for tatting). I still have a long way to go to build up my BLacing thread stash. Just doesn't seem to overlap my tatting thread stash LOL! Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
According to Brenda's book the following are similar to Brok - i.e. 32wraps/cm Fresia 100/2 Barbour Campbell Irish linen lace thread 130 Knox's Falcon 70 Amann Coats sylko 50 "Best" Linen lace thread no70 Colcoton 70/2 Czech sewing thread, Triana DMC Cordonnet 100 DMC Broder machine 30 DMC Turbino Tissus legers Eagley sewing machine thread Art no K125 Filato per Tombola di Cantu 40 Mettler Stickgarn 30 Molnyloke cotton (white reel for sewing machine) Radix mercerised no 50 De Vere gassed cotton 40/2 Goldrush + 12wraps/cm Madeira metallic no 3 Madeira glamour no 8 Kreinik Japan no 7 Twilleys gold dust 20 Hope this helps Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison
Hi all, I will be doing the Springett torchon fan and it calls for 36/2 Brok thread and also Gold Dust(not sure what that is other than a metallic). I don't have the Brok or Gold Dust and would like to find the equivalent. I do have Tanne size 30 and 50 and Egyptian Cotton size 60/2. And in my tatting thread stash I have TONS of size 70-80 tatting cotton and also some finer threads like Corona Cotton size 100 and 160(very strong cotton cord perfect for tatting). I still have a long way to go to build up my BLacing thread stash. Just doesn't seem to overlap my tatting thread stash LOL! Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Happy Lacing! Mark, aka Tatman www.tat-man.net Greenville, IL USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]