[lace] floral torchon

2009-01-19 Thread Lorelei Halley
Dona
I realize this answer is very late relative to your inquiry.  I have seen some
individual floral torchon patterns designed by Geraldine Stott and they are
very pretty.  I have not seen the whole book, but based on the individual
ones, I'd say use hers.  She is a very good designer with clear diagrams.
Lorelei

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[lace] floral torchon

2005-01-11 Thread Lorelei Halley
I have seen some Spanish floral torchon patterns, but I don't know the
original source.
Lorelei

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[lace] Floral Torchon

2005-01-11 Thread Margot Walker
Since Jenny Rees hasn't tooted her own horn, I'll do it for her.  Jenny 
has designed beautiful pieces of floral Torchon, using Australian 
flora.  She was planning on publishing them but, regrettably,  they 
burnt in the forest fire which destroyed her home and everything in it.  
But she tells me that one of her 2005 projects is to redesign them.  I 
hope this publicity will give her the push to fulfill this new year's 
resolution.  I have a couple of the prickings and they really should be 
available for lace makers to buy (IMHO).

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace] Floral Torchon

2005-01-11 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I agree.  When can we expect/order them?
Lorri

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  Since Jenny Rees hasn't tooted her own horn, I'll do it for her.  Jenny
  has designed beautiful pieces of floral Torchon, using Australian
  flora.  She was planning on publishing them but, regrettably,  they
  burnt in the forest fire which destroyed her home and everything in it.
  But she tells me that one of her 2005 projects is to redesign them.  I
  hope this publicity will give her the push to fulfill this new year's
  resolution.  I have a couple of the prickings and they really should be
  available for lace makers to buy (IMHO).

  Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] Floral torchon questions

2005-01-08 Thread Dorte Zielke
Hello Jackie
Here in Denmark we do a lot of torchon lace, but I don't understand what you
mean with floral I have also heard floral mensioned together with
buckspoint, but never understud it. please explain and then I might be able
to help.
Dorte


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Subject: [lace] Floral torchon questions

2005-01-08 Thread Karolina Jeffers

 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:21:24 +1000
 From: Jacqueline Bowhey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [lace] Floral torchon questions

 Greetings and Happy New Year to All,

 1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp
 threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular
 torchon?

 2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's?

 TIA
 Jackie in breezy Brisbane

Hello Jackie and all,

1. To clarify the Floral Torchon.  Geraldine Stott came up with an idea to
include more flowing/defined floral features into a lace being drafted on a
45 degree grid. The diferrence in designing of the floral Torchon lace is
that the floral design is being drawn free hand first and the 45 degree grid
is applied afterwoods and is adapted to work with the floral feature. This
is how the Floral Point ground laces are designed. When designing the
Torchon Lace, the designer follows the 45 degree grid to include the main
features as well as the ground at the same time.
Geraldine uses thick gimps so the features stand out using Pipers silk, but
one can use any thread as long as it is thick. Further when working her
floral Torchon designs one has to know how to work Point ground laces
particularly when working around the floral feature.
Geraldine most likely got the idea from designing the Floral Bucks lace but
wanting to make it simpler created more interesting and challenging Torchon
patterns. Geraldine named her newly crated patterns Floral Torchon Lace
following in line of the Floral Bucks lace.

2. There are similar patterns in De techniek van de kloskant Stropkant deel
I and deel II - translated Technique of bobbine lace - Torchon - volume I
and volume II by MJ Geers-Vermeulen published by the Kantcentrum VZW -
Brugge. However they do not use the thick gimp around the main features, but
I think that if one included the gimps the lace would look fantastic.
Another author is Eeva Lisa Kortelahti whose patterns are challenging and
could be classed floral (Torchon?).

Hope this helps

Karolina Jeffers
from sunny Melbourne

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[lace] Floral torchon questions

2005-01-07 Thread Jacqueline Bowhey
Greetings and Happy New Year to All,

1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp
threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular
torchon?

2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's?

TIA
Jackie in breezy Brisbane

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Re: [lace] Floral torchon questions

2005-01-07 Thread Alice Howell
At 05:21 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote:
Greetings and Happy New Year to All,
1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp
threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular
torchon?
2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's?
My understanding of 'floral' is that extra threads are added to the cloth 
stitch areas to make them fuller, and then discarded or carried with the 
gimp if ithey will soon be used again.  Patterns with flower petals and 
leaves sometimes looked a bit wimpy with only the standard passives plus 
worker theads being used in the cloth stitch parts, thus the 'floral' 
term.  The lacemaker becomes the judge of when/where/how many threads to add.

I never heard of a thread difference between regular and floral lace being 
required.

Since 'floral' refers more to the technique being used in executing a 
pattern than a type of pattern, it could conceivably be applied to any 
Torchon pattern with prominent clothstitch sections.  Patterns could be 
drafted with these techniques in mind, but existing patterns could also be 
used.

Now the Floral Torchon experts can tell me where I've gone astray in my ideas.
Happy lacing,
Alice in Oregon -- where the higher elevations had a light snow tonight but 
my 125 feet above sea level got only water. 

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[lace] Floral Torchon-Thanks!

2004-04-01 Thread Elizabeth MacPherson
Dear Spiders,
 
Many thanks to all who replied to me either personally or via Arachne regarding Floral 
Torchon. I received much valuable information and a great deal of help. I look forward 
to trying this type of lace soon! This group is the best!
 
Elizabeth MacPherson


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[lace] Floral torchon

2004-03-28 Thread Jenny Rees
I've been doing my own version of floral torchon with Australian
Wildflowers - wattle, gum leaves, boronia, sturt's desert pea - for some
years. I've been using Buck's Techniques in Torchon lace to get the more
flowing lines of bucks but in Torchon - using gimps and added pairs, and
careful use of the worker around gimps - a gum leaf actually looks like a
gum leaf - not a geometric shape as in 'normal' Torchon! It gives an added
dimension to Torchon lace. The wattle pattern was in the English lace
magazine some years ago.

Hopes this helps

Jenny Rees
Canberra Australia
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Re: [lace] Floral Torchon

2004-03-28 Thread Ruth Budge
Clay and Elizabeth,

I have a few Floral Torchon patterns by Geraldine Stott.  None of them require
the addition of extra pairs during working...whereas Torchon traditionally is
made up of geometric shapes, these are basically flowers drawn on the Torchon
grid.  To my eye, used to working Bucks, the flowers look a bit square,
rather than the flowing designs you can get in Bucks.  I presume that the
square look is due to the 45 degree grid.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

--- Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello Elizabeth - and
spiders!
 
 I'm still a relative newbie myself,  but when I hear the
 term floral applied to a lace (Bucks or Torchon, for
 example...),  I think of designs in which you need to add
 threads in some areas and throw them out in others.  In
 strictly geometric torchon, the threads work around pins and
 proceed through from one section to the other in an orderly
 fashion with a consistent number of bobbins.  But in
 floral torchon, the threads which move into a motif may
 not be sufficient to fill that section, and so more threads
 have to be added... at the completion of the motif, the
 threads may need to be thrown out again.  My guess is that
 the term floral derived from the presence, in many of
 these designs, of floral motifs...  however, I think that is
 actual fact, the motifs do not always represent flowers.
 
 I've stuck my neck out here, and will eagerly wait to see if
 I'm right, or if, as that awful show said, I'm the weakest
 link! (A definite possibility with regards to my grasp of
 lacemaking technical terms!!)
 
 Clay
 
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  Dear Spiders,
  What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before.
 Are there books on this type of lace? Thanks for any help.
  Elizabeth MacPherson
 
 
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[lace] Floral Torchon

2004-03-27 Thread Elizabeth MacPherson
Dear Spiders,
What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before. Are there books on this 
type of lace? Thanks for any help.
Elizabeth MacPherson


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Re: [lace] Floral Torchon

2004-03-27 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hello Elizabeth - and spiders!

I'm still a relative newbie myself,  but when I hear the
term floral applied to a lace (Bucks or Torchon, for
example...),  I think of designs in which you need to add
threads in some areas and throw them out in others.  In
strictly geometric torchon, the threads work around pins and
proceed through from one section to the other in an orderly
fashion with a consistent number of bobbins.  But in
floral torchon, the threads which move into a motif may
not be sufficient to fill that section, and so more threads
have to be added... at the completion of the motif, the
threads may need to be thrown out again.  My guess is that
the term floral derived from the presence, in many of
these designs, of floral motifs...  however, I think that is
actual fact, the motifs do not always represent flowers.

I've stuck my neck out here, and will eagerly wait to see if
I'm right, or if, as that awful show said, I'm the weakest
link! (A definite possibility with regards to my grasp of
lacemaking technical terms!!)

Clay

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Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: [lace] Floral Torchon


 Dear Spiders,
 What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before.
Are there books on this type of lace? Thanks for any help.
 Elizabeth MacPherson


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