[lace] floral torchon
Dona I realize this answer is very late relative to your inquiry. I have seen some individual floral torchon patterns designed by Geraldine Stott and they are very pretty. I have not seen the whole book, but based on the individual ones, I'd say use hers. She is a very good designer with clear diagrams. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] floral torchon
I have seen some Spanish floral torchon patterns, but I don't know the original source. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Floral Torchon
Since Jenny Rees hasn't tooted her own horn, I'll do it for her. Jenny has designed beautiful pieces of floral Torchon, using Australian flora. She was planning on publishing them but, regrettably, they burnt in the forest fire which destroyed her home and everything in it. But she tells me that one of her 2005 projects is to redesign them. I hope this publicity will give her the push to fulfill this new year's resolution. I have a couple of the prickings and they really should be available for lace makers to buy (IMHO). Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Floral Torchon
I agree. When can we expect/order them? Lorri - Original Message - From: Margot Walkermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ARACHNEmailto:lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: [lace] Floral Torchon Since Jenny Rees hasn't tooted her own horn, I'll do it for her. Jenny has designed beautiful pieces of floral Torchon, using Australian flora. She was planning on publishing them but, regrettably, they burnt in the forest fire which destroyed her home and everything in it. But she tells me that one of her 2005 projects is to redesign them. I hope this publicity will give her the push to fulfill this new year's resolution. I have a couple of the prickings and they really should be available for lace makers to buy (IMHO). Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Floral torchon questions
Hello Jackie Here in Denmark we do a lot of torchon lace, but I don't understand what you mean with floral I have also heard floral mensioned together with buckspoint, but never understud it. please explain and then I might be able to help. Dorte http://www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lace] Floral torchon questions
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:21:24 +1000 From: Jacqueline Bowhey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Floral torchon questions Greetings and Happy New Year to All, 1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular torchon? 2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's? TIA Jackie in breezy Brisbane Hello Jackie and all, 1. To clarify the Floral Torchon. Geraldine Stott came up with an idea to include more flowing/defined floral features into a lace being drafted on a 45 degree grid. The diferrence in designing of the floral Torchon lace is that the floral design is being drawn free hand first and the 45 degree grid is applied afterwoods and is adapted to work with the floral feature. This is how the Floral Point ground laces are designed. When designing the Torchon Lace, the designer follows the 45 degree grid to include the main features as well as the ground at the same time. Geraldine uses thick gimps so the features stand out using Pipers silk, but one can use any thread as long as it is thick. Further when working her floral Torchon designs one has to know how to work Point ground laces particularly when working around the floral feature. Geraldine most likely got the idea from designing the Floral Bucks lace but wanting to make it simpler created more interesting and challenging Torchon patterns. Geraldine named her newly crated patterns Floral Torchon Lace following in line of the Floral Bucks lace. 2. There are similar patterns in De techniek van de kloskant Stropkant deel I and deel II - translated Technique of bobbine lace - Torchon - volume I and volume II by MJ Geers-Vermeulen published by the Kantcentrum VZW - Brugge. However they do not use the thick gimp around the main features, but I think that if one included the gimps the lace would look fantastic. Another author is Eeva Lisa Kortelahti whose patterns are challenging and could be classed floral (Torchon?). Hope this helps Karolina Jeffers from sunny Melbourne - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Floral torchon questions
Greetings and Happy New Year to All, 1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular torchon? 2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's? TIA Jackie in breezy Brisbane - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Floral torchon questions
At 05:21 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote: Greetings and Happy New Year to All, 1.In floral torchon, other than using linen thread and thick silk gimp threads is there anything to differentiate floral torchon from regular torchon? 2. Are there any floral torchon patterns other than G. Stott's? My understanding of 'floral' is that extra threads are added to the cloth stitch areas to make them fuller, and then discarded or carried with the gimp if ithey will soon be used again. Patterns with flower petals and leaves sometimes looked a bit wimpy with only the standard passives plus worker theads being used in the cloth stitch parts, thus the 'floral' term. The lacemaker becomes the judge of when/where/how many threads to add. I never heard of a thread difference between regular and floral lace being required. Since 'floral' refers more to the technique being used in executing a pattern than a type of pattern, it could conceivably be applied to any Torchon pattern with prominent clothstitch sections. Patterns could be drafted with these techniques in mind, but existing patterns could also be used. Now the Floral Torchon experts can tell me where I've gone astray in my ideas. Happy lacing, Alice in Oregon -- where the higher elevations had a light snow tonight but my 125 feet above sea level got only water. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Floral Torchon-Thanks!
Dear Spiders, Many thanks to all who replied to me either personally or via Arachne regarding Floral Torchon. I received much valuable information and a great deal of help. I look forward to trying this type of lace soon! This group is the best! Elizabeth MacPherson - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Floral torchon
I've been doing my own version of floral torchon with Australian Wildflowers - wattle, gum leaves, boronia, sturt's desert pea - for some years. I've been using Buck's Techniques in Torchon lace to get the more flowing lines of bucks but in Torchon - using gimps and added pairs, and careful use of the worker around gimps - a gum leaf actually looks like a gum leaf - not a geometric shape as in 'normal' Torchon! It gives an added dimension to Torchon lace. The wattle pattern was in the English lace magazine some years ago. Hopes this helps Jenny Rees Canberra Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have finally finished removing all the weeds and burnt remains of trees, digging over and putting new soil and mulch in all the gardens - and can now get on with replacing some of the plants!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Floral Torchon
Clay and Elizabeth, I have a few Floral Torchon patterns by Geraldine Stott. None of them require the addition of extra pairs during working...whereas Torchon traditionally is made up of geometric shapes, these are basically flowers drawn on the Torchon grid. To my eye, used to working Bucks, the flowers look a bit square, rather than the flowing designs you can get in Bucks. I presume that the square look is due to the 45 degree grid. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Elizabeth - and spiders! I'm still a relative newbie myself, but when I hear the term floral applied to a lace (Bucks or Torchon, for example...), I think of designs in which you need to add threads in some areas and throw them out in others. In strictly geometric torchon, the threads work around pins and proceed through from one section to the other in an orderly fashion with a consistent number of bobbins. But in floral torchon, the threads which move into a motif may not be sufficient to fill that section, and so more threads have to be added... at the completion of the motif, the threads may need to be thrown out again. My guess is that the term floral derived from the presence, in many of these designs, of floral motifs... however, I think that is actual fact, the motifs do not always represent flowers. I've stuck my neck out here, and will eagerly wait to see if I'm right, or if, as that awful show said, I'm the weakest link! (A definite possibility with regards to my grasp of lacemaking technical terms!!) Clay - Original Message - From: Elizabeth MacPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: [lace] Floral Torchon Dear Spiders, What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before. Are there books on this type of lace? Thanks for any help. Elizabeth MacPherson - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Floral Torchon
Dear Spiders, What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before. Are there books on this type of lace? Thanks for any help. Elizabeth MacPherson - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Floral Torchon
Hello Elizabeth - and spiders! I'm still a relative newbie myself, but when I hear the term floral applied to a lace (Bucks or Torchon, for example...), I think of designs in which you need to add threads in some areas and throw them out in others. In strictly geometric torchon, the threads work around pins and proceed through from one section to the other in an orderly fashion with a consistent number of bobbins. But in floral torchon, the threads which move into a motif may not be sufficient to fill that section, and so more threads have to be added... at the completion of the motif, the threads may need to be thrown out again. My guess is that the term floral derived from the presence, in many of these designs, of floral motifs... however, I think that is actual fact, the motifs do not always represent flowers. I've stuck my neck out here, and will eagerly wait to see if I'm right, or if, as that awful show said, I'm the weakest link! (A definite possibility with regards to my grasp of lacemaking technical terms!!) Clay - Original Message - From: Elizabeth MacPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: [lace] Floral Torchon Dear Spiders, What is Floral Torchon? I have not heard this term before. Are there books on this type of lace? Thanks for any help. Elizabeth MacPherson - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]