RE: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-14 Thread David C COLLYER

At 04:31 AM 14/06/2011, Lorri Ferguson wrote:
What if you 'laid out' a pair of passives at this/these areas and 
then 'twisted the passives' before adding them back in at the end of the line.
This would leave a raised twist of threads which would add subtle 
liniar detail at that poing.
This might not be a good idea if one really intends to use the 
handkerchief as it might get caught on things - but then there are 
raised petals on Point de Gauze pieces.


H - that's an interesting solution and would also work even if I 
were doing half stitch. Might even be worthwhile leaving out 2 paris 
and just making a plait. Will have to muck around with it, but I 
could well be there tomorrow.


David in Ballarat

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[lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,
this morning I started working on the Poppies in Jean's Floral Bucks 
Point book and while I'm satisfied it's going OK, I've found one area 
on which I'd like opinions.


For those of you who recently purchased this book, I'm talking about 
the pricking on p27. If you look at the centres of the larger flowers 
you will see some short lines radiating out from it. I am wondering 
whether perhaps they are meant to be raised tallies, or just short 
lengths of gimp. Either way, I'm tempted to leave them out.


What do you reckon??
David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Sue Babbs
Yes, I'd wondered what I'd do there, and concluded gimp. I hadn't thought of 
raised tallies, but as the pattern is open to interpretation I guess it 
would be good to see the lines done in all sorts of ways.


The petals might look a bit blank, if you leave you the radial lines. You 
could try photocopying and white-ing them out of the design and then 
photocopying again so that you didn't see the white-out. This would give you 
a bit of a feel for what it would be like without them.


Looking forward to seeing what you come up with! it will be ages before I 
get round to tackling this piece, as I'm determined to deal with some other 
projects before starting anything new!


Sue

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Clay Blackwell
I'm inclined to agree with Sue...  I think they probably represent a bit 
of gimp run through to add depth.


And I also want to see your progress!!

Clay



On 6/13/2011 10:51 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:
Yes, I'd wondered what I'd do there, and concluded gimp. I hadn't 
thought of raised tallies, but as the pattern is open to 
interpretation I guess it would be good to see the lines done in all 
sorts of ways.


The petals might look a bit blank, if you leave you the radial lines. 
You could try photocopying and white-ing them out of the design and 
then photocopying again so that you didn't see the white-out. This 
would give you a bit of a feel for what it would be like without them.


Looking forward to seeing what you come up with! it will be ages 
before I get round to tackling this piece, as I'm determined to deal 
with some other projects before starting anything new!


Sue

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi David:

 For those of you who recently purchased this book, I'm talking about the 
 pricking on p27. If you look at the centres of the larger flowers you will 
 see some short lines radiating out from it. I am wondering whether perhaps 
 they are meant to be raised tallies, or just short lengths of gimp. Either 
 way, I'm tempted to leave them out.

Poppies always have this problem, whether they're done in embroidery or 
patchwork or lace - the leaves are flat and broad and if you don't think of a 
way to relieve that they just look like blobs. I think the lace will suffer for 
it if you leave them out, as the lines add delicacy, movement, and direction to 
the leaves.

At first glance, I thought they were lines of gimp, but in other patterns gimp 
lines have pinholes beside them, and now I think they're intended to be open 
veins, created by adding a twist to either the worker or the passive where it 
crosses the line. If so, they're easy enough to add on the fly.

Hope this helps.


Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi David:

 For those of you who recently purchased this book, I'm talking about the 
 pricking on p27. If you look at the centres of the larger flowers you will 
 see some short lines radiating out from it. I am wondering whether perhaps 
 they are meant to be raised tallies, or just short lengths of gimp. Either 
 way, I'm tempted to leave them out.

Poppies always have this problem, whether they're done in embroidery or 
patchwork or lace - the leaves are flat and broad and if you don't think of a 
way to relieve that they just look like blobs. I think the lace will suffer for 
it if you leave them out, as the lines add delicacy, movement, and direction to 
the leaves.

At first glance, I thought they were lines of gimp, but in other patterns gimp 
lines have pinholes beside them, and now I think they're intended to be open 
veins, created by adding a twist to either the worker or the passive where it 
crosses the line. If so, they're easy enough to add on the fly.

Hope this helps.


Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Sue Babbs

Open holes - ooh! I like that idea

Sue

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[lace] Jean's Book

2011-06-13 Thread Clive Betty Rice
 Oh my, Dear Spiders, What have I missed?  All this posting about Jean's
Book hasn't given me a clue about what of you speak!  Did I delete
something unawares?  Bucks Point is my favorite, and I definitely want
this book. Please, please tell me how I can get one.  I know I can go
to Arachne archives, but you all are quick on the button to tell me. 
Hope Springs Eternal Happy Lacemaking,Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia
USA  

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Re: [lace] Jean's Book

2011-06-13 Thread Sue Babbs

Yes, Betty Ann you are missing a real treat! See info cut and pasted below.

Are you going to be at Sweet Briar next week? I hope so!


Sue

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-Original Message- 
From: Jean Leader

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:34 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] New book of floral Bucks Point patterns

Dear all,

I have checked with Avital and she is happy for me to announce that I have 
just published a book of floral Bucks Point patterns designed by Joyce 
Symes, a British lace maker and teacher, who died from breast cancer some 
years ago. I went to several weekend courses with Joyce when I fairly new to 
lacemaking and was saddened by her death. When I later heard that Joyce's 
daughter Maggy wanted to publish her mother's patterns to raise money for 
cancer research, I was pleased to be able to help her. For various reasons 
it has taken rather a long time to get the patterns into print but now that 
the book is here I hope that it will be enjoyed by all lovers of Bucks Point 
lace.


All the profits Maggy and I make from the sale of the book will be donated 
to further cancer research.


You can find out more about the book and how to order it online on my 
website at


http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/publications/floralbuckspoint.html

Jean

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Jean Leader
Glasgow, Scotland
lacema...@q7design.demon.co.uk
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk

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RE: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Lorri Ferguson
What if you 'laid out' a pair of passives at this/these areas and then
'twisted the passives' before adding them back in at the end of the line.
This would leave a raised twist of threads which would add subtle liniar
detail at that poing.
This might not be a good idea if one really intends to use the handkerchief as
it might get caught on things - but then there are raised petals on Point de
Gauze pieces.

Just a thought,   Lorri F


 From: sueba...@comcast.net

 Yes, I'd wondered what I'd do there, and concluded gimp. I hadn't thought of
 raised tallies, but as the pattern is open to interpretation I guess it
 would be good to see the lines done in all sorts of ways.
 Sue

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RE: [lace] Jean's Book - opinion sought

2011-06-13 Thread Sue
I think that they are probably just short lengths of gimp, and being a
gardener as well as lace maker feel that they are an important feature of a
poppy and need to be there, but as the lace  maker it is entirely your
decision.

As usual awaiting progress reports with glee.

 

David, please could you show the finished piece of Chantilly as I have kept
records of progress and thats the last piece of the puzzle.

 

Thanks

Sue M Harvey

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