[lace] Lace8 users/Arachne Christmas exchange

[Janice Blair]

Jenny is doing a wonderful job on the Facebook Lace8 Users Group that she has
set up.  I have learnt so much from the group and especially from the
wonderful videos that Jenny has been producing,  I love listening to her soft
Australian accent as she explains everything so simply.  If you are
considering using a lace design program in future, you should join the group
for the knowledge that is being imparted there.  Hopefully my future designs
will incorporate working diagrams instead of the written explanations I
usually use.  Thank you Jenny.  Also we need to thank her for the work she
has done on the Arachne Christmas exchange.  I am looking forward to
receiving my card from her.  My other card from Sallie arrived and enclosed
was a dream catcher that will be going on my tree now that I have it up. 
I have been using my Lace8 program on my MacBook Pro and have struggled at
times making the Microsoft program do things, so much so, that my family
decided I needed a new HP laptop for Christmas so that I can dedicate it to
Lace8.  WooHoo.  Hope I can remember how to use it after so many years on my
Apple.Janicehttps://youtu.be/XC82Jx2Fbr0

Part 2 https://youtu.be/2gQZNTfIlNU

Part 3 https://youtu.be/rYSVfNyefsg 

Regards
Jenny Brandis.>
 Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, www.jblace.com 

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RE: [lace] Lace8 users/Arachne Christmas exchange

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Arachnids,

Thank you very much for the you tube videos Janice Blair –and for all the
other snippits of info you put on the list from time to time..
Also, as you say; Thank you Jenny for the enormous amount of work you put into
building the website,
Lastly; BIG thank yous to  Janet Theaker, Sally Bertrans and Jenny Brandis for
organising the exchange.

Hope you all have a lovely holiday and a Prosperous, Laceful New Year.

Joepie, in East Sussex, UK




From: Janice Blair
Sent: 14 December 2015 04:04
To: Lace Arachne
Subject: [lace] Lace8 users/Arachne Christmas exchange


Jenny is doing a wonderful job on the Facebook Lace8 Users Group that she has
set up.  I have learnt so much from the group and especially from the
wonderful videos that Jenny has been producing,  I love listening to her
soft
Australian accent as she explains everything so simply.   As part of the facebook Lace8 Users Group the following videos
were made to
demonstrate making colour coded working diagrams. 

They are also available on youtube which can be accessed without you having
to sign up for anything :) so here are the links to the youtube videos

Part 1 https://youtu.be/XC82Jx2Fbr0

Part 2 https://youtu.be/2gQZNTfIlNU

Part 3 https://youtu.be/rYSVfNyefsg 

Regards
Jenny Brandis.>
 Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, www.jblace.com 

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[lace] Lace8 users

[Jenny Brandis]

Hi everyone

 

As part of the facebook Lace8 Users Group the following videos were made to
demonstrate making colour coded working diagrams. 

They are also available on youtube which can be accessed without you having
to sign up for anything :) so here are the links to the youtube videos

 

Part 1 https://youtu.be/XC82Jx2Fbr0

Part 2 https://youtu.be/2gQZNTfIlNU

Part 3 https://youtu.be/rYSVfNyefsg

 

 

Regards

Jenny Brandis

 

je...@brandis.com.au  

www.brandis.com.au    online since 1995

 

I can say to future generations that I was born BEFORE the Internet - my
parents generation invented it!!

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

Hi Nancy,
I heard from the programmer this evening - he told me that he'd found your
emails to him.they had ended up in his spam box!!!

However, as you've found the trick of selecting lines and I hope my
explanations about editing smooth curves have helped, I don't think we need
bother him any more.   Do you agree?

Ruth
the lacema...@optusnet.com.au

> On 20 Nov 2015, at 2:44 AM, Nancy Neff  wrote:
>
> Ruth et al.,
> The CD that they shipped to me was version 1.0.0.51.  I couldn't edit
smooth
> curves or gimps in that version (I've tried on two PCs so I don't think the
> problem is with my setup).  So when the program said that 1.0.0.52 was
> available, and I saw your earlier note, I immediately upgraded..

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Jane Wright]

Thank you Ruth
Jane
In a damp and dreary Gloucestershire



On Wednesday, 18 November 2015, 21:49, Ruth Budge
<thelacema...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


 OK - I managed to contact the programmer and caused him to delay his
dinnerbut the problem is fixed.    It is now safe to upgrade to Version
1.0.0.52 and that should fix all problems associated with the last two
upgrades.  You'll note, when you upgrade, that he has added a "Sorry" to
the explanation of what this upgrade doesand he has promised to me that
he will not issue upgrades in future until he has the approval of "The
Boss"!!!

Now I can get on with what I was supposed to be doing today!

Regards,
Ruth Budge
(Sydney, Australia)

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Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 7:29 AM
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Subject: [lace] Lace8

This is a warning to all owners of Lace8


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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

I will get onto it straight away Nancy. Although I was able to upgrade from
version 51 to 52 there are a couple of people having problems. So it sounds as
if there might be something in some systems preventing the upgrade.

Ruth
the lacema...@optusnet.com.au

> On 20 Nov 2015, at 2:44 AM, Nancy Neff <nnef...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ruth et al.,
> The CD that they shipped to me was version 1.0.0.51.  I couldn't edit
smooth
> curves or gimps in that version (I've tried on two PCs so I don't think the
> problem is with my setup).  So when the program said that 1.0.0.52 was
> available, and I saw your earlier note, I immediately upgraded.  Now I
can't
> even select the individual curves much less edit them.  I've had a support
> request in to them for several days (since the weekend) and haven't even an
> acknowledgment of my request for help.
> Can you help at all?  The program is unuseable for what I want to do if I
> can't edit smooth curves and gimps. Does anybody know of a solution to my
> problems with this program?
> Thanks,Nancy
>From: Ruth Budge <thelacema...@optusnet.com.au>
> To: "'Lace@Arachne.Com'" <lace@arachne.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [lace] Lace8
>
> OK - I managed to contact the programmer and caused him to delay his
> dinnerbut the problem is fixed.It is now safe to upgrade to Version
> 1.0.0.52 and that should fix all problems associated with the last two
> upgrades.  You'll note, when you upgrade, that he has added a "Sorry" to
> ...
>
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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Kim Davis]

​Mine updated to 5.1 a few nights ago.  When I fired up the program it gave
me the message that there was an update, and I gave it permission.  Today,
when I just went to update to 5.2, it checked for updates but did not find
any.

Kim

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Ruth Budge <thelacema...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

> I will get onto it straight away Nancy. Although I was able to upgrade from
> version 51 to 52 there are a couple of people having problems. So it
> sounds as
> if there might be something in some systems preventing the upgrade.
>
> Ruth
> the lacema...@optusnet.com.au
>
> > On 20 Nov 2015, at 2:44 AM, Nancy Neff <nnef...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ruth et al.,
> > The CD that they shipped to me was version 1.0.0.51.  I couldn't edit
> smooth
> > curves or gimps in that version (I've tried on two PCs so I don't think
> the
> > problem is with my setup).  So when the program said that 1.0.0.52 was
> > available, and I saw your earlier note, I immediately upgraded.  Now I
> can't
> > even select the individual curves much less edit them.  I've had a
> support
> > request in to them for several days (since the weekend) and haven't even
> an
> > acknowledgment of my request for help.
> > Can you help at all?  The program is unuseable for what I want to do if I
> > can't edit smooth curves and gimps. Does anybody know of a solution to my
> > problems with this program?
> > Thanks,Nancy
> >From: Ruth Budge <thelacema...@optusnet.com.au>
> > To: "'Lace@Arachne.Com'" <lace@arachne.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: [lace] Lace8
> >
> > OK - I managed to contact the programmer and caused him to delay his
> > dinnerbut the problem is fixed.It is now safe to upgrade to
> Version
> > 1.0.0.52 and that should fix all problems associated with the last two
> > upgrades.  You'll note, when you upgrade, that he has added a "Sorry" to
> > ...
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[lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

This is a warning to all owners of Lace8.   Please do NOT install the
upgrade to Version 1.0.0.51.   There is a major glitch in that version which
means that you would be unable to edit most of your files.   

 

Most of you would not need to use the function which that version contained
anyway, so you're safer to stay on a previous version for the time being.

 

I'm trying to contact the programmer to sort out the problem and I'll let
you know when it is safe for you to upgrade.

 

Ruth Budge

(Sydney, Australia)

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RE: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

OK - I managed to contact the programmer and caused him to delay his
dinnerbut the problem is fixed.It is now safe to upgrade to Version
1.0.0.52 and that should fix all problems associated with the last two
upgrades.   You'll note, when you upgrade, that he has added a "Sorry" to
the explanation of what this upgrade doesand he has promised to me that
he will not issue upgrades in future until he has the approval of "The
Boss"!!!

Now I can get on with what I was supposed to be doing today!

Regards,
Ruth Budge
(Sydney, Australia)

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Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 7:29 AM
To: Lace@Arachne.Com
Subject: [lace] Lace8

This is a warning to all owners of Lace8
 

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[lace] Lace8 users group on facebook

[Jenny Brandis]

I have setup a facebook group for Lace8 users and would like to invite other
Arachne to join it. 

 

The group page can be found at

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1698911510330916/ if you would like to check
it out first but I must admit it is very much in its infancy :)

 

 

Regards

Jenny Brandis

 

je...@brandis.com.au  

www.brandis.com.au    online since 1995

 

I can say to future generations that I was born BEFORE the Internet - my
parents generation invented it!!

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RE: [lace] Lace8 users group on facebook

[Jenny Brandis]

A easier URL is https://www.facebook.com/groups/Lace8Users/

I have setup a facebook group for Lace8 users and would like to invite other
Arachne to join it. 

Regards
Jenny Brandis
Western Australia

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Anna Binnie]

Ruth is on Arachne so I assume she will write to you privately

Anna from a very overcast Sydney.

On 2/11/15 12:03 PM, Nancy Neff wrote:

Does anybody know whether Ruth Budge had updated her book for Lace8?Â


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Re: [lace] Lace8

[J D Hammett]

Hi Ruth and fellow Arachnids,

Thank you for the warning and I will certainly do so. Also my thanks for the 
work you continue to put into Lace 8 to keep everything flowing smoothly.


Happy lace making,

Joepie in Sunny Sussex, UK


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The programmer and I 
.fix a fairly obscure hiccup with Lace 8.Â
..I'd suggest you
upgrade your copy of the programme. .
Doing so now could save you
some frustrations..

Ruth Budge
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au

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[lace] Lace8

[thelacemaker]

The programmer and I sat down after dinner last night and worked to
isolate
and fix a fairly obscure hiccup with Lace 8. 
While most of you would never
experience the problem, I'd suggest you
upgrade your copy of the programme.  
Doing so now could save you
some frustrations if you happen to fluke a
particular combination of
actions some time in the future.

Ruth Budge
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au

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Re: [lace] Lace8 bummer

[Nancy Neff]

Just an idea, but I'll bet that MS Visio would be good for tatting diagrams.
It has a good interface for handling arcs and curves once you get the knack of
it, and you can make your own library (stencils) of motifs.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA



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thelacema...@optusnet.com.au
To: Robin D human.m...@gmail.com 
Cc:
lace@arachne.com lace@arachne.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 1:35
PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace8 bummer
  

I've had others look at the
programme with a view to using it for tatting, but they've quickly decided
not!   



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[lace] Lace8 bummer

[Janice Blair]

Hi Robin,
I use Lace8 on my MacBook Pro.  I have something called VisualBox
which brings up the Windows desktop and I can access Lace8 through it.  Some
things are a little temperamental at times but with help, I have managed to
use it. I think I use the fn key and delete at the same time to delete an
element.  Previously I was using Lace RXP through the same VisualBox.  Don't
ask me how to install it all, my SIL did it for me a number of years ago.
Exporting is a pain as I can never remember where to save it to and be able to
access it in Mac.  It takes me several attempts but I think old age has more
to do with it than anything. :-)
Janice


Well I was kind of excited to check
out the Lace8 program.  I don't design
bobbin lace, but I was sure I could use
it for Tatting...And then the bomb
dropped.

I'm beyond disappointed that it
only works on a windows machine.  I'm not
sure I know anyone personaly that
even uses a windows based computer
anymore.  I mean I know people do, just not
in my personal world of artists
and graphic designers. (I have the same
frustration with genealogy
programs) With Mac being the largest computer
company in the world I would
think it would be in the best interest of the
software people to make sure
there was a Mac compatible version.

*SIGH* Guess
I'll stick with Illustrator.
Robin

 
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles
northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] Lace8 bummer

[Robin D]

Well I was kind of excited to check out the Lace8 program.  I don't design
bobbin lace, but I was sure I could use it for Tatting...And then the bomb
dropped.

I'm beyond disappointed that it only works on a windows machine.  I'm not
sure I know anyone personaly that even uses a windows based computer
anymore.  I mean I know people do, just not in my personal world of artists
and graphic designers. (I have the same frustration with genealogy
programs) With Mac being the largest computer company in the world I would
think it would be in the best interest of the software people to make sure
there was a Mac compatible version.

*SIGH* Guess I'll stick with Illustrator.
Robin

-- 
Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the
cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination.
The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit.   Now, let's dance.  *~Tom
Hiddleston*

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Re: [lace] Lace8 bummer

[Ruth Budge]

I've had others look at the programme with a view to using it for tatting, but 
they've quickly decided not!   

The programmer feels that the small potential market doesn't make it worthwhile 
for him to offer two versions and in other countries, Windows based computers 
are still more usual.   Sorry.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)


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 Well I was kind of excited to check out the Lace8 program.  I don't design
 bobbin lace, but I was sure I could use it for Tatting...

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[lace] Lace8 Demo

[Angel Skubic]

Just so everyone knows, I found the help DOES work with the Lace8 Demo.
Thank you Ruth for nudging me to check it!! She was concerned that I let you
all know that some instruction is available for it.

 

Thanks for your attention fellow spiders

 

Cearbhael

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RE: [lace] Lace8 Demo

[Ruth Budge]

I can't check the demo version without uninstalling and removing all traces
of the full version from my computer, so I couldn't check what Ian had done
about the help filesso last night, I pounced on him and asked him to
double-check.   He did sound very doubtful...I *thought* I'd put them
in..but.. and all the time I was thinking Men!  Why can't they
follow through to the end of a job??I left him to check and let me know
what he found and went to bed.   Still haven't heard anything from him, so I
was delighted to hear from Cearbhael that she'd found them!!

And I'll have to take back all the nasty things I thought about him too
(VBG)

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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Angel Skubic
Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 3:52 PM
To: Lace Arachne
Subject: [lace] Lace8 Demo

Just so everyone knows, I found the help DOES work with the Lace8 Demo.

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Sue]

I say about my lace work, is that it keeps me out of mischief (but then I 
sometimes take mine out on a funster rally, my DH was looking for mischief 
but only found the funsters:-)


I am still using Lace 2000 and it has just gone on my computer again after a 
change of hard drive and enjoyed remaking one of my patterns recently.   It 
is great to be able to see your motifs come together and looking like a 
professional, clear pattern to work from plus it gives you the ability to 
change the grid size and gives you a glow of satisfaction to see it in 
print.   I have used the book and instructions which is a real help.   So 
your work has certainly been appreciated over the years.

Sue T
Dorset in a lull between storms.



Dear Sue,
that was a nice compliment to wake up to this morning!I do enjoy the 
challenge involved in solving the computer problems, and, as my mother 
would've said it keeps me off the streets!Very big grin!!

Regards,
Ruth
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au

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RE: [lace] Lace8

[Maureen]

I agree with Sue.   The generosity of your help with Lace8 is necessary for
those of us who are not so good with computers (I am speaking of myself in
this).

Maureen
E Yorks UK

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Sent: 01 January 2014 14:46
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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace8

Ruth

Thank you so much for your generosity in helping us all with these Il-Soft
programs when we need it.  The time and effort you put into it is much
appreciated

Sue

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RE: [lace] Lace8 (2)

[Angel Skubic]

What I found disconcerting with the demo was the lack of how to support.
Unless you already have been using their software, there is no way to really
figure out how to do things. For instance, how to change the curve of a fan?
How to undo,etc. I have the demo but besides putting dots, I am really
sort of lost and unable to do anything with it...which has not increased my
desire to invest in the whole package very much.

Cearbhael who was curious but...

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From: Jean Nathan
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:51 AM
To: Lace
Subject: [lace] Lace8 (2)

I'd add to Ruth's recommendation - go to the Ilsoft website and download the
demo version of Lace8 - I'm sure it's complete except for printing and
saving,

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[lace] Lace8 how to videos

[Jenny Brandis]

I am willing to do a few quick how to videos on basic Lace8 - just let me know 
what you want to learn.

There are some already on YouTube.com 

Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia

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[lace] Lace8

[Jean Nathan]

One simple thing  I find very useful in Lace8, which I don't think is in
earlier versions, is the ability to have a picture/photo on the page along
with a pricking. The resize of a background image is also very much easier -
instead of putting in measurements, you just drag handles.

When I'm going to start a new project and it doesn't come with thread path
diagrams, I scan it and put it into the program as a background, resize it to
match the dots and then put all the dots and markings in on one section. I
then add a picture of the finished section to the page and use it to help me
work out the thread paths, which I draw on the pricking. Because my hands
don't always work properly, it's easier for me to put the thread paths on by
computer than by hand - I can undo mistakes easier than Tipexing out the wrong
bits drawn by hand. I adjust the sizes of the pricking and picture so I can
print them on one page for reference while working.

If you're used to the toolbar selection of functions it takes a while to get
used to the right-click on the page way of doing it. Although most other
programs used this method, the way RXP does it gets ingrained into your
brain.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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[lace] Lace8 (2)

[Jean Nathan]

I'd add to Ruth's recommendation - go to the Ilsoft website and download the
demo version of Lace8 - I'm sure it's complete except for printing and saving,
but Ruth can confirm this - and try before you buy.

The features are listed on:

http://crafts.ilsoft.co.uk/pages/Lace8.aspx

and the download is on:

http://crafts.ilsoft.co.uk/pages/Downloads.aspx

I have no connection with Ilsoft, but really like their lace design program
and have upgraded as each new edition came out. I'm currently using Lace8 on
Windows 8.1 - a big jump from my almost-dead Windows XP system.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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RE: [lace] Lace8 (2)

[Ruth Budge]

Yes, Jean, that's right - demo version doesn't print or save.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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Subject: [lace] Lace8 (2)

I'd add to Ruth's recommendation - go to the Ilsoft website and download the
demo version of Lace8 - I'm sure it's complete except for printing and
saving, but Ruth can confirm this - and try before you buy.

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Sue Babbs]

Ruth

Thank you so much for your generosity in helping us all with these Il-Soft 
programs when we need it.  The time and effort you put into it is much 
appreciated


Sue

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

Dear Sue,
that was a nice compliment to wake up to this morning!I do enjoy the 
challenge involved in solving the computer problems, and, as my mother would've 
said it keeps me off the streets!Very big grin!!

Regards,

Ruth
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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Clay Blackwell]

I love that expression,  keeps me off the streets!  My DH says the same thing 
about all of my things lace related!

Clay


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 that was a nice compliment to wake up to this morning!I do enjoy the 
 challenge involved in solving the computer problems, and, as my mother 
 would've said it keeps me off the streets!Very big grin!!
 
 Regards,
 
 Ruth
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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Cynce Williams]

Except that when I'm demonstrating, it keeps me on the street. ;-)

Cynthia


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 I love that expression,  keeps me off the streets!  My DH says the same 
 thing about all of my things lace related!
 
 Clay
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 Dear Sue,
 that was a nice compliment to wake up to this morning!I do enjoy the 
 challenge involved in solving the computer problems, and, as my mother 
 would've said it keeps me off the streets!Very big grin!!
 
 Regards,
 
 Ruth
 thelacema...@optusnet.com.au
 
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 Thank you so much for your generosity in helping us all with these Il-Soft 
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[lace] Lace8 videos

[Janice Blair]

I want to send a public thank you to Jenny Brandis for working on her Lace8
tutorial videos over the holidays.  She makes it simple to understand, even
for someone so computer handicapped like me.  If you have Lace8, check out her
list of videos at http://www.brandis.com.au/Video/index.html

I am using Lace8
on my MacBook Pro through an application called VirtualBox, set up for me by
my SIL years ago.  Sometimes I have trouble doing things, maybe because Lace8
is written as a Microsoft program.  Jenny's videos helped me find the
shortcuts.  I just tried two things, resizing the background and zooming in
and out, which used to take me ages to figure out as I do not use the program
on a regular basis, and I could do them quickly.

It is wonderful to have such
lace friends all around the world who can help with lace problems and she does
so much for our Arachne exchanges.  Thank you Jenny, and I wish you and
everyone on Arachne a Happy New Year.

Janice
 
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50
miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where it is going to snow again
later so our NY celebrations will be done at home after dinner at a local
restaurant.
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[lace] Lace8

[laceandbits]

While Lace 8 is being talked about, can I just say that one of my students 
bought it during the summer and asked me to show her a few tricks.  Being now 
quite au fait with RXP I thought I can cope with that.  

I was able to show her all the basics she needed to get her confidence but I 
tried my hardest to find out how to open the tool bars around the screen that I 
am used to, as they are so convenient, but couldn't.  Speaking to Ian (Mr 
Ilsoft) at Solihull he confirmed that this can't be done with Lace 8.  
Personally I found it very irritating to keep having to go up to the top tool 
bar when I am used to being able to drag the appropriate bars close-handy to 
where I am working.  

The other thing I don't like/need is that the roseground now comes complete 
with holes in the way that only spiders did (those of you who use RXP will 
understand what I mean).  As I more often than not put roseground in as an 
afterthought to fill odd spaces in ground, these extra holes are superfluous 
(and yes, I do know how to remove duplicate holes).

The only other thing I know of is that I understand Ian has reinstated the redo 
button, which I had asked him to do in an RXP update as it was in Lace 2000, 
but he never got around to it.  This is useful if you have inked in a whole 
length of trail then make a mistake.  If you click 'undo' it deletes the whole 
trail!  But over the years I have been using it I have learnt to resist the 
temptation and go for 'item select' 'delete' instead so this is no longer an 
issue with me.  

Can any of you who have tried both tell me why I should be using the newer 
version, please.  I think I might be missing something important but can't see 
what.  

Jacquie in Lincolnshire




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From Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net 
Date: 31/12/2013  16:04  (GMT+00:00) 
To lace lace@arachne.com 
Subject [lace] Lace8 videos 
 
I want to send a public thank you to Jenny Brandis for working on her Lace8
tutorial videos over the holidays. �She makes it simple to understand, even
for someone so computer handicapped like me. �If you have Lace8, check out her
list of videos at�http://www.brandis.com.au/Video/index.html

I am using Lace8
on my MacBook Pro through an application called VirtualBox, set up for me by
my SIL years ago. �Sometimes I have trouble doing things, maybe because Lace8
is written as a Microsoft program. �Jenny's videos helped me find the
shortcuts. �I just tried two things, resizing the background and zooming in
and out, which used to take me ages to figure out as I do not use the program
on a regular basis, and I could do them quickly.

It is wonderful to have such
lace friends all around the world who can help with lace problems and she does
so much for our Arachne exchanges. �Thank you Jenny, and I wish you and
everyone on Arachne a Happy New Year.

Janice
�
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50
miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA where it is going to snow again
later so our NY celebrations will be done at home after dinner at a local
restaurant.
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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RE: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

I never advise people to change to Lace8 unless they have thoroughly
explored the demonstration version and have some understanding of the
differences between the two programmes.   To me, there's no sense in
changing just for the sake of change or for having the most up to date
programme - and I apply that criteria to any computer programme I use.   So,
Jacquie, if you're happy with RXP, stick with it.

Having said that, there is a long list of Lace8 features on the ILSoft
website - put there so that people can easily see the main changes.  

The emphasis when Lace8 was being written, was on making the programme much
easier to use than previous versions - and I find that, once I've set up the
basics for my design (such as grid angle, Snap to Grid, Show/Hide Grid
etc.,) I can draw a complete design without going anywhere near any of the
Tabs across the top.   This is made possible because all the editing
functions are carried out on the screen near the design by use of the
right-click, whereas in RXP, the editing options are on the toolbar.

That has meant that it was necessary to sacrifice the right-click to delete
a dot function which you might be used to in Lace RXP, but compromise is
always necessary in life.  

I was so vehement about the need for a Redo button that he didn't dare
leave it out of Lace8 - but it still took me several days of arguing the
case for the change to the Undo button (so that it looks at each dot and
line of a Trail as separate items, rather than a Trail as a whole) before
Ian realised that men and women see things differently, and the Undo button
will now undo a trail one little step at a time!   This dot, then this
line, etc., whereas Ian thinks of a trail as an entirety and assumed we
either wanted the trail there or not - he had no concept of drawing it from
scratch and going one or two steps too far.   Thank goodness for programmes
like Team Viewer where I could invite him to come and visit the other side
of the world to see how a trail was constructed in steps.

There are great improvements to the way a background picture can be sized,
moved and placed in position, and much more freedom to put multiple pictures
and diagrams on the Lace8 page.   As for exporting designs into other
documents - that is now a breeze!   One lady I know insisted on sticking to
RXP in order to produce several booklets of her patterns and teaching notes
- and all the time I was urging her to do it in Lace8.   After she'd
finished, she bought Lace8 and almost immediately said Oh, I wish I'd
changed before I did that big job - it's so much easier to export patterns
at the correct sizethose of you who know me well will be surprised
to hear that I just buttoned my mouth shut!!

Most of the feedback has been very positive and most people find this
version easier to use.   One lady has complained that there aren't as many
motifs and they're not as accurately drawn - but, in fact, they are exactly
the same motifs, with more added, and they are already included in the motif
library, with the ability to add more if you wish.

I won't clog up the list with any more information, but I'm always available
to help if needed.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)


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Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2014 7:16 AM
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Subject: [lace] Lace8

While Lace 8 is being talked about, can I just say that one of my students
bought it during the summer and asked me to show her a few tricks. B Being
now quite au fait with RXP I thought I can cope with that. B 

..
Can any of you who have tried both tell me why I should be using the newer
version, please. B I think I might be missing something important but can't
see what. B 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Janice Blair]

I think Clay is referring to Lace8.  I took a course in Pennsylvania at a 
convention years ago with Liz.  Sorry I can't do this one but I will be in 
Ireland, Wales and England during that week.
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org






The first time in America, ClayThere have been many courses in 
Australia and in the UK ranging from 2 days to a week.

Ruth
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..(This is in Virginia, USA.). This is the first full-week course 
offered for the Lace designer programs, .

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[lace] Lace8 selecting problem solved

[Jean Nathan]

I've solved the problem I had with selecting items in Lace8 for designs done 
in Lace R-XP.


Don't know what was going on with not selecting the dots, but that's all OK 
now and they're being selected each time I ask. The problem with other items 
was because the squares that show an item has been selected aren't all the 
same size for all drawing tools in this new version.


Because of they're smaller size than before for a straight gimp, when I 
tried selecting a straight gimp, the selecting squares (black) were hidden 
by the dots (black). Same with curved gimp. The solution was to change the 
colour of the dots to a lighter shade than back so I can see them. Select 
all the dots - choose dot drawing tool, right click anywhere in the design 
window and Select all Current Type, right click in the design area and 
Select all Current Type again and change the colour of the dots to something 
lighter than black. I either change the colour of the background dots, or 
switch them off.


I found the one drawing tool with the biggest problem was the tally - the 
selecting square outlined the tally symbol exactly, so if the tally was dark 
it didn't look as if it had been selected.


Hope this helps others with similar problems.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Lace8 selecting problem solved

[Sue Babbs]

It does - thank you for identifying why I was having such difficulty.  I 
hadn't manage to work out why it was so much harder than R-XP.


Sue

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Subject: [lace] Lace8 selecting problem solved

I've solved the problem I had with selecting items in Lace8 for designs done
in Lace R-XP.

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[lace] Lace8

[Angela]

Hi All
 
Lace8 is great - if you  haven't upgraded and have a computer that is
compatibly buy it now if only for the new print preveiw option.  There are
lots of other new features, some of which I like and some not so much but the
print preview is wonderful.  Gone are the days when you have to guess what
size the pattern will come out, you can see it on the page and just know
whether it's right or wrong.
 
Anyone else upgraded, if so can you let us know
which features you like best.
 
Regardd Angela in cold and wet Sussex - it's
July it should be really hot!!!

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RE: [lace] Lace8

[Daphne Martin]

I have upgraded too. I also love the print preview and the fact you can put a
picture on the design page and of course the fact you can save as a JPG file.


Daphne Hot Norfolk where there is a threat of rain.


 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 12:14:25 +0100
 From: angelal...@btinternet.com
 Subject: [lace] Lace8
 To: lace@arachne.com

 Hi All

 Lace8 is great - if you  haven't upgraded and have a computer that is
 compatibly buy it now if only for the new print preveiw option.  There are
 lots of other new features, some of which I like and some not so much but
the
 print preview is wonderful.  Gone are the days when you have to guess what
 size the pattern will come out, you can see it on the page and just know
 whether it's right or wrong.

 Anyone else upgraded, if so can you let us know
 which features you like best.

 Regardd Angela in cold and wet Sussex - it's
 July it should be really hot!!!

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Sue Babbs]

I also like the print preview, having multiple designs open at once, 
grouping items, bold lines on girds and drawing twists  but I miss the 
preview file on opening; the zoom and centre button; all layers on / all 
layers off choice; and find it long-winded to do various other things which 
were faster in R-XP.


It also has some irritating hiccups - if you try to change a layer it asks 
you twice over, and if you try to download a background on a locked layer it 
ties the mouse to the design area of the screen and you can't even close the 
programme.  Beware of that one!!



I would recommend you try the demo version before deciding to buy.
Sue

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Laceandbits]

Has the re-do button been re-instated?  I understand this was in the first 
version but is missing from R-XP.  

Annoying when you have drawn in a long trail and the lose the rhythm and go 
wrong. Hit undo instead of item select, delete.  Those of you that use the 
programme will know that undo deletes the whole trail, whereas with item 
select, delete you can undo just the one wrong line.  I have nearly cured 
myself but

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Sue Babbs]

Oh yes! That is probably the best bit!! The re-do button is BACK! Sorry, I 
forgot to mention that




Sue

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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace8

Has the re-do button been re-instated?  I understand this was in the first
version but is missing from R-XP.

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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Nancy Neff]

Angela and others:
 
Has anyone found any problems in opening designs done
under R-XP or 2000 with the new Lace 8?
 
Thanks,
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject:
[lace] Lace8
  
Hi All
 
Lace8 is great - if you  haven't upgraded and
have a computer that is
compatibly buy it now if only for the new print
preveiw option.  There are
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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Sue Babbs]

No, that has been possible - back to .lc5 files anyway.  I couldn't track 
down my .lc1 files to try out.  They now get saved as .lc8, so you will need 
Lace8 to open any of the files saved as .lc8. You can't share them with R-XP 
users for instance


Sue

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From: Nancy Neff


Angela and others:

Has anyone found any problems in opening designs done
under R-XP or 2000 with the new Lace 8?

Thanks,
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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[lace] Lace8

[Jean Nathan]

One thing I've had a problem with is selecting items in designs which were 
done in R-XP. If I want to delete a dot, I can't do it by right clicking and 
I can't mark it with select item. I have to use Group select and then it 
will mark it. Same thing happens with other items from a Lace R-XP designs.


What I like about it:

the sliding zoom
quicker way of changing widths and colours of elements
rose ground element looking much better than the previous one
being able to save as JPEGs and PDFs - I found EPS files were extremely 
large

easier to set the offset from top and left margins for printing
easier to temporarily remove the toolbar to see more of the design
being able to have more than one design open and copy and paste between them
the general look of the page

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

Yes, Jacquie.just for you!   And Undo no longer takes out the whole trail.

Ruth
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au

On 02/07/2012, at 12:11 AM, laceandb...@aol.com wrote:

 Has the re-do button been re-instated?  I understand this was in the first 
 version but is missing from R-XP.  
 

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RE: [lace] Lace8

[Ruth Budge]

Jean, as you might imagine, that was one of the first things I tested.
And I've just opened a couple of RXP files to try again, both of which work
OK for me.  I use the Item Select button all the time and don't have any
trouble with selecting a particular dot with the Item Select button. I'm
wondering if you'd email me (privately, of course) a file which is causing
you this problem so that I can have a look at it and see if I can work out
why you're having difficulties.

Yes, I miss the right-click to delete a dot.   However, the right-click is
now taken up with editing functions to save playing hunt the button on
toolbars all around the screen.   It wasn't possible to do both, although
you can select a dot (or a line or whatever) and then right-click on the
screen, then left-click on Delete.   

Someone mentioned the missing File Preview - the old system was only
possible because of the way RXP saved all files inside the RXP folder -
which is not a particularly popular place to save files with lots of people.
The new programme has a different filing system, and all patterns are now
saved in a special folder created on installation within the My Documents
folder.   We haven't had much success yet at making a file preview system
compatible with the new filing system. Windows 7 offers the preview, but
only for programmes the Windows programmers know about - and Lace8 is not on
their list.

Ruth
thelacema...@optusnet.com.au


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From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of
Jean Nathan
Sent: Monday, 2 July 2012 5:36 AM
To: Lace
Subject: [lace] Lace8

One thing I've had a problem with is selecting items in designs which were
done in R-XP. If I want to delete a dot, I can't do it by right clicking and
I can't mark it with select item. I have to use Group select and then it
will mark it. Same thing happens with other items from a Lace R-XP designs.

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