Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-12 Thread Carol

Hi All,

One of my class had the same difficulty (you don't find diamonds as large as 
coal ...) and I let her borrow my daughter's footrest, that Claire used to 
put her foot on, whilst playing her guitars - it was a folding one, so was 
quite easy to transport, and my student was delighted enough with it to get 
one of her own!   Needless to say, Claire was also quite pleased to have her 
footrest returned to her ...


I wonder if this would help any of the 'diamonds' we have in our midst - I 
don't think it could have been expensive, as both children were at school, I 
didn't work, and both played instruments and sport, so although we weren't 
poverty-struck, we didn't hurl cash around like drunken sailors.


Carol - in Suffolk UK
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'


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From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sister Claire 
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Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time) 
who
needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that 
would
travel well.  We have put the design in the new letter a couple of times 
in

the past. I don't know how many have actually been made by others.
If anyone is interested let me know and I will find the pattern (very easy 
to
follow as I remember) and I can get them a copy.  I have just checked with 
the
widow of the man who drew the 'pattern' from a picture someone else had, 
and

she is very happy to think that others would be able to use the stool.

If you will contact me I will be glad to send an e-copy (I should be able 
to

scan it) or if worse comes to worse I will may a copy.

Lorri
 - Original Message -
 From: Nancy Nicholsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sister Clairemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lace chat room at arachnemailto:lace@arachne.com
 Sent: 11/11/2008 5:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


 I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half. 
I
 manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when 
I

 go to my evening class is another thing altogether.

 It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table 
stand I
 am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have 
tried
 sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I 
have
 now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to 
make
 it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first 
time

 and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor
 though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok 
when

 I get further down the pattern as I will see that.

 Nancy

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 From: Sister Claire 
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
 To: Brenda Paternoster
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 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

  Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.
 
  I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs
  are
  too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are 
low

  and
  fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and 
sit

  in
  those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my 
arms

  and
  have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer 
chair,

I
  have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
  uncomfortable.
 
  When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting) 
I

  place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my
feet
  on the thingies the wheels are attached to.
 
  I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do.
I'm
  saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)
 
  Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things
  that
  were hard on those girls' backs.
 
  Sr. Claire
 
  On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
  sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their
  feet
  on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I 
wonder

  why
  they didn't use a chair that better suited them with a lower pillow
  horse?
   Of course they may have been very petite in relation to other people,
  but
  they were at least early/mid teens as they both have their hair pinned
  up.
 
  The other thing I

Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-12 Thread Sister Claire
What a great idea - I have one of those somewhere. I'll have to dig it up
and give it a try.

Thanks, Carol!
Sr. Claire

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Carol [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi All,

 One of my class had the same difficulty (you don't find diamonds as large
 as coal ...) and I let her borrow my daughter's footrest, that Claire used
 to put her foot on, whilst playing her guitars - it was a folding one, so
 was quite easy to transport, and my student was delighted enough with it to
 get one of her own!   Needless to say, Claire was also quite pleased to have
 her footrest returned to her ...

 I wonder if this would help any of the 'diamonds' we have in our midst - I
 don't think it could have been expensive, as both children were at school, I
 didn't work, and both played instruments and sport, so although we weren't
 poverty-struck, we didn't hurl cash around like drunken sailors.

 Carol - in Suffolk UK
 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'


 - Original Message - From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Nancy Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sister Claire 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lace chat room at arachne lace@arachne.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


  In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time)
 who
 needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that
 would
 travel well.  We have put the design in the new letter a couple of times
 in
 the past. I don't know how many have actually been made by others.
 If anyone is interested let me know and I will find the pattern (very easy
 to
 follow as I remember) and I can get them a copy.  I have just checked with
 the
 widow of the man who drew the 'pattern' from a picture someone else had,
 and
 she is very happy to think that others would be able to use the stool.

 If you will contact me I will be glad to send an e-copy (I should be able
 to
 scan it) or if worse comes to worse I will may a copy.

 Lorri
  - Original Message -
  From: Nancy Nicholsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Sister Clairemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: lace chat room at arachnemailto:lace@arachne.com
  Sent: 11/11/2008 5:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


  I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half. I
  manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when
 I
  go to my evening class is another thing altogether.

  It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table
 stand I
  am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have
 tried
  sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I
 have
  now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to
 make
  it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first
 time
  and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor
  though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok
 when
  I get further down the pattern as I will see that.

  Nancy

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  From: Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
  To: Brenda Paternoster
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: phil powis [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace
 chat room at arachne
  lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

   Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.
  
   I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs
   are
   too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are
 low
   and
   fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and
 sit
   in
   those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my
 arms
   and
   have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer
 chair,
 I
   have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
   uncomfortable.
  
   When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting)
 I
   place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my
 feet
   on the thingies the wheels are attached to.
  
   I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do.
 I'm
   saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)
  
   Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things
   that
   were hard on those girls' backs.
  
   Sr. Claire
  
   On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
   sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their
   feet
   on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I
 wonder
   why

Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-11 Thread Sister Claire
Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.

I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs are
too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are low and
fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and sit in
those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my arms and
have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer chair, I
have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
uncomfortable.

When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting) I
place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my feet
on the thingies the wheels are attached to.

I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do. I'm
saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)

Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things that
were hard on those girls' backs.

Sr. Claire

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
 sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their feet
 on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I wonder why
 they didn't use a chair that better suited them with a lower pillow horse?
  Of course they may have been very petite in relation to other people, but
 they were at least early/mid teens as they both have their hair pinned up.

 The other thing I wondered about, did they really have red covered pillows
 or was that just artistic licence?

 Brenda

 On 11 Nov 2008, at 05:58, phil powis wrote:

  Rediscovered a small treasure this morning - a postcard of an oil painting
 Making Ligurian Lace by Henry H La Thangue [1859-1929] which is inow n
 the
 Te Puna O Waiwhetu art gallery in Christchurch, New Zealand, and  - how
 wonderful - the gallery has some of their collection online
 http://collection.christchurchartgallery.org.nz/results.do
 ?id=15742db=object
 view=detail


 Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
 http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html


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Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-11 Thread Lorri Ferguson
In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time) who
needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that would
travel well.  We have put the design in the new letter a couple of times in
the past. I don't know how many have actually been made by others.
If anyone is interested let me know and I will find the pattern (very easy to
follow as I remember) and I can get them a copy.  I have just checked with the
widow of the man who drew the 'pattern' from a picture someone else had, and
she is very happy to think that others would be able to use the stool.

If you will contact me I will be glad to send an e-copy (I should be able to
scan it) or if worse comes to worse I will may a copy.

Lorri
  - Original Message -
  From: Nancy Nicholsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Sister Clairemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: lace chat room at arachnemailto:lace@arachne.com
  Sent: 11/11/2008 5:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


  I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half.  I
  manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when I
  go to my evening class is another thing altogether.

  It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table stand I
  am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have tried
  sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I have
  now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to make
  it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first time
  and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor
  though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok when
  I get further down the pattern as I will see that.

  Nancy

  --
  From: Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
  To: Brenda Paternoster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: phil powis [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace
chat room at arachne
  lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

   Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.
  
   I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs
   are
   too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are low
   and
   fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and sit
   in
   those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my arms
   and
   have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer chair,
I
   have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
   uncomfortable.
  
   When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting) I
   place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my
feet
   on the thingies the wheels are attached to.
  
   I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do.
I'm
   saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)
  
   Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things
   that
   were hard on those girls' backs.
  
   Sr. Claire
  
   On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
   sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their
   feet
   on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I wonder
   why
   they didn't use a chair that better suited them with a lower pillow
   horse?
Of course they may have been very petite in relation to other people,
   but
   they were at least early/mid teens as they both have their hair pinned
   up.
  
   The other thing I wondered about, did they really have red covered
   pillows
   or was that just artistic licence?
  
   Brenda
  
   On 11 Nov 2008, at 05:58, phil powis wrote:
  
Rediscovered a small treasure this morning - a postcard of an oil
   painting
   Making Ligurian Lace by Henry H La Thangue [1859-1929] which is inow
n
   the
   Te Puna O Waiwhetu art gallery in Christchurch, New Zealand, and  - how
   wonderful - the gallery has some of their collection online
  
http://collection.christchurchartgallery.org.nz/results.dohttp://collection.
christchurchartgallery.org.nz/results.do
   ?id=15742db=object
   view=detail
  
  
   Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
  
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.htmlhttp://paternoster.orpheusweb.
co.uk/index.html
  
  
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Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-11 Thread Nancy Nicholson
I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half.  I 
manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when I 
go to my evening class is another thing altogether.


It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table stand I 
am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have tried 
sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I have 
now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to make 
it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first time 
and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor 
though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok when 
I get further down the pattern as I will see that.


Nancy

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From: Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
To: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: phil powis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace chat room at arachne 
lace@arachne.com

Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.

I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs 
are
too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are low 
and
fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and sit 
in
those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my arms 
and

have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer chair, I
have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
uncomfortable.

When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting) I
place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my feet
on the thingies the wheels are attached to.

I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do. I'm
saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)

Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things 
that

were hard on those girls' backs.

Sr. Claire

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their 
feet
on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I wonder 
why
they didn't use a chair that better suited them with a lower pillow 
horse?
 Of course they may have been very petite in relation to other people, 
but
they were at least early/mid teens as they both have their hair pinned 
up.


The other thing I wondered about, did they really have red covered 
pillows

or was that just artistic licence?

Brenda

On 11 Nov 2008, at 05:58, phil powis wrote:

 Rediscovered a small treasure this morning - a postcard of an oil 
painting

Making Ligurian Lace by Henry H La Thangue [1859-1929] which is inow n
the
Te Puna O Waiwhetu art gallery in Christchurch, New Zealand, and  - how
wonderful - the gallery has some of their collection online
http://collection.christchurchartgallery.org.nz/results.do
?id=15742db=object
view=detail



Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html


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[lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-10 Thread phil powis
Rediscovered a small treasure this morning - a postcard of an oil painting
Making Ligurian Lace by Henry H La Thangue [1859-1929] which is inow n the
Te Puna O Waiwhetu art gallery in Christchurch, New Zealand, and  - how
wonderful - the gallery has some of their collection online
http://collection.christchurchartgallery.org.nz/results.do?id=15742db=object
view=detail

I loved the idea of sitting barefoot in dappled sunshine engrossed in making
something - this was years before lace was an interest.

Phil in Newcastle
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