[lace] More on copyright
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? I have a little book of knitted lace collars, published in 1841, which raised the same query for me when I first had it, as I wanted to have a couple of colour photocopies done (some of the printing is in colour) mainly for my own use, but without breaking copyright. This was so that I could take the reproduction with me when demonstrating and teaching, without risking adding to the fragility of the original book - it also enabled me to make an enlarged copy - easier to read! I can't remember now exactly how I found it, but I think I probably googled the name and address of the publisher as quoted (the husband of the author in this case, they had a business selling her pattern books, people would make the collars and they had the option then of selling the collars back to the company so that the company could sell both collars and instructions for DIY.) and came up with the email address of the person doing research into the family history (not a direct descendant, but close enough) who was able to give me information regarding when both of the couple died, and that the company (a further consideration) died with the husband, thus confirming that this book was out of copyright. Some books have a number code on the flyleaf - I think there was some discussion as to the early DMC Encyclopaedias being dated in this way, and once you know the key to that system you can date the book, if not the author. Remember that if someone writes a book when he/she is 20, and lives until he/she is 90, then the copyright period will be 140 years from the time the book is published! This could mean that a book written in 1870 may actually still be in copyright. Hence the reason for researching the author, and his/her date of death through the genealogy sites. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright
Yes, good question. If there is a publisher and place stated, I would consult the appropriate government or library agency in the country of origin, that would advise on copyright. If you do a google search for, for example 'copyright in name of country' you should get some useful links. Chances are, without a date, it is an early publication (earlier than the time frame of copyright that has been mentioned). But consider fair use, one can make a copy of a particular page for research purposes (lacemaker's research, yes?). However selling it is not right, and passing it off as one's own is not right, either. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright-Israeli law
Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I guess, in that case Israeli law is the law that covers this situation. Does anyone know anything about Israeli copyright law? (If everyone else knew this information, I apologize. I assumed she was in Europe or the US. Never assume...) Devon **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright
I don't have any copyright answers, but your mentioning old literature reminded me that you may not know abut the following website: http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html Many lace books and pamphlets which are out of copyright have been scanned in and put up on this site. Sue - Original Message - From: Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: [lace] More on copyright I am looking at some of my older lace and embroidery books and many of the oldest among them do not have copyright dates (or any other date) printed in them. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright-Israeli law
Here's what I found with a quick Google search. There's a link to a PDF. http://blog.ipfactor.co.il/2008/05/05/new-israel-copyright-law-to-come-into-effect/ Sister Claire, where in Israel are you? Avital Arachne moderator Maale Adumim On 5/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I guess, in that case Israeli law is the law that covers this situation. Does anyone know anything about Israeli copyright law? (If everyone else knew this information, I apologize. I assumed she was in Europe or the US. Never assume...) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright-Israeli law
Thanks Avital. I'm in Jerusalem and we know each other. ;-) Sr Claire On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Avital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I found with a quick Google search. There's a link to a PDF. http://blog.ipfactor.co.il/2008/05/05/new-israel-copyright-law-to-come-into-effect/ Sister Claire, where in Israel are you? Avital Arachne moderator Maale Adumim On 5/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I guess, in that case Israeli law is the law that covers this situation. Does anyone know anything about Israeli copyright law? (If everyone else knew this information, I apologize. I assumed she was in Europe or the US. Never assume...) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright-Israeli law
P.S. I haven't been following this thread but if it's about duration of copyright, it's author's death + 70 years. Avital On 5/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I guess, in that case Israeli law is the law that covers this situation. Does anyone know anything about Israeli copyright law? (If everyone else knew this information, I apologize. I assumed she was in Europe or the US. Never assume...) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] More on copyright
I am looking at some of my older lace and embroidery books and many of the oldest among them do not have copyright dates (or any other date) printed in them. For the most part, these are cheap paper editions that physically resemble other books I that I know were printed between ca 1880 and ca 1920 in France. One is printed on shiny white paper, so I assume that it is more recent. A couple of these books were produced by thread companies (with lovely gage charts in the back), others by religious Orders. I haven't looked at all of them yet and I've looked closely at only one or two. My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? Thank you, Sr Claire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
