Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread Lin Hudren
One is to get a fat drinking straw the next time you're in a restaurant
that has them.  Cut sections of the straw roughly the size of the neck, and
then slice the straw open from top to bottom.  The straw can then be
slipped over the neck and thread and hitch, and keep it under control.

i have those hook headed bobbins which work really well for metallics.  but
the straw i use for covering pre-wound bobbins to keep the threads clean
and if i have a project that i know i cannot work on for a while, i cover
those for both clean threads and holding the thread in place.  i like using
metallic threads.


Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread Clay Blackwell
Metallics do present their own kinds of challenges, most annoying of which is 
throwing their hitches and running away!  Several ways have been suggested to 
prevent this.  One is to get a fat drinking straw the next time you're in a 
restaurant that has them.  Cut sections of the straw roughly the size of the 
neck, and then slice the straw open from top to bottom.  The straw can then be 
slipped over the neck and thread and hitch, and keep it under control.

Another trick some people like is using the miniature clippies which can be 
found in the section of a store that sells things for styling hair.  The only 
drawback to the clippies is that they sometimes get snagged in other threads, 
but then the straws aren't perfect either, so you'll have to try and see which 
you prefer.  But I can pretty much guess that you'll want some help with those 
metallics!  

Have fun!  I enjoyed working a large s'Gravensmore  shawl with metallic accents!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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> On Apr 19, 2015, at 9:10 AM,   wrote:
> 
> I am about to take on an ambitious challenge and although I have used 
> spangles with sewings I have worked a sample with square bobbins without 
> spangles which was obviously easier and am going to see if I can handle the 
> larger continentals I bought some time ago but have never used as I want more 
> thread on the bobbins than I think the square ones will take.  I have at 
> least another one sample to work and also decisions to make about whether I 
> need a toning colour as well or bite the bullet and try metallic thread. When 
> I tried years ago I didn't get on well but maybe there is a special trick I 
> need to know to keep the bobbins wound.
> Sue T in Dorset UK
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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread sueat
Yes we would all prefer you were happy and making lace which ever way you 
can.   Long may it continue.   There are many of us out in the world of lace 
who have to choose the best way we can do something and not worry about it 
not being the correct way.   Just loving lace and lacemaking and making the 
best lace you can do.


I am about to take on an ambitious challenge and although I have used 
spangles with sewings I have worked a sample with square bobbins without 
spangles which was obviously easier and am going to see if I can handle the 
larger continentals I bought some time ago but have never used as I want 
more thread on the bobbins than I think the square ones will take.  I have 
at least another one sample to work and also decisions to make about whether 
I need a toning colour as well or bite the bullet and try metallic thread. 
When I tried years ago I didn't get on well but maybe there is a special 
trick I need to know to keep the bobbins wound.

Sue T in Dorset UK


I also pick up and
move bobbins by the spangles because that's the easiest way for me. And 
before

anyone says that's wrong, if I didn't do it that way I wouldn't be able to
make lace. After all, there are no lace police.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread Hazel Smith
The trouble is there are a few people around who think they are the lace
police! (just a gentle joke but I'm sure most of you have met one at some
time)
RegardsHazel Smith
   
> On 19 Apr 2015, at 08:00, Jean Nathan  wrote:
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> After all, there are no lace police.

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RE: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread Agnes Boddington
The booklet is available on the Springett's website for £3.50 plus p/p:
www.cdspringett.co.uk/acatalog/Lacemaking_Books.html
I was at the lace fair at Haydock Park yesterday, and bought Christine's
latest pattern.
It is huge, will need to retire to get time to do this.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


Christine Springett published a fantastic booklet called spangles and
superstitions which is worth reading if you can get hold of a copy.  Her
introduction talks about the movement from fine thread to corse and the idea
that then it was needed to have more weight for the domed pillion.

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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread The Lace Bee
I'm tempted to print this phrase out and put it on my wall.

Thanks Jean, it's one of the reason I love lace making 

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 19 Apr 2015, at 08:00, Jean Nathan  wrote:
> 
> After all, there are no lace police.

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[lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-19 Thread Jean Nathan
I've used continental bobbins for Bruges, but, probably because I'm not as
dexterous as most found them difficult to handle and also the threads
untwisted as they rolled about.

The spangles on Midland bobbins stop them from rolling and I also pick up and
move bobbins by the spangles because that's the easiest way for me. And before
anyone says that's wrong, if I didn't do it that way I wouldn't be able to
make lace. After all, there are no lace police.

It makes sewings a bit more difficult, but I tend to make continuous lace so
that's not usually a problem and the spangles do break sometimes. That's a
price I'm happy to pay and always have wire, pliers and a few spare beads with
me to do running repairs.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-18 Thread The Lace Bee
Jenny,

Christine Springett published a fantastic booklet called spangles and 
superstitions which is worth reading if you can get hold of a copy.  Her 
introduction talks about the movement from fine thread to corse and the idea 
that then it was needed to have more weight for the domed pillion.

I use different forms of bobbin depending on the work and pillow I am using.   
If I am making lots of sewings I tend to choose a flat pillow and continental 
bobbins however I don't find continental bobbins work well FOR ME, on a domed 
pillow.  For that I prefer midlands.  If I'm not doing any sewings I may use 
spangles with dangling bits and I often use these when demonstrating as they 
are a good talking point however I tend to use standard midland spangles of a 
ring of beads,

Whilst I can't talk for others here is what I do with spangles (and having just 
spangled a number yesterday its quite fresh in my mind) I tend to go for a 
particular size and weight of spangle of spangle because I tend to buy my 
bobbins from a particular set of makes so the weights are consistent.

Over all, the total weight of my bobbins when spangled are the same.  I was 
recommended to buy bone bobbins a number of years ago by a lace maker who made 
floral Bucks.  Because bone weighs more, you can get a thinner bobbin for the 
same weight as a thicker wooden bobbin and this means that it is easier to put 
lots of bobbins on your pillow because they take up less room.  I tend to go 
for slimmer bone bobbins because then with a standard spangle they weigh the 
same.  For example I prefer Stuart Johnson's slim bobbins that he makes with 
the crystals on them to his thicker bobbins because they weigh and handle 
differently,  Whilst any of Chris Parsons' bone or wood work well for me 
including his pewter inlay ones.

If I'm given a bobbin or buy one that weighs different to my normal bobbins 
then I adjust the weight to match by using heavier or lighter beads as needed.  
For example` Chris Parson's pewter inlay bobbins; I've put lighter beads on 
these because the bobbin itself is slightly heavier.

When I started making lace, I tended to work with heavier spangles and over the 
years have gone from a 7 bead spangle to a 5 bead.  I also prefer a particular 
length of bobbin for working and of course`, have favourites that handle best.

If I was less lazy on a sunday morning I would get out of bed and go and weigh 
my bobbins,  Perhaps something to do this afternoon.

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

Have a look at my bobbins on my website; http://thelacebee.weebly.com

> On 19 Apr 2015, at 01:43, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> 
> So, What do your bobbins weigh? Does your tension change if you use a 
> different style of bobbin?
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[lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

2015-04-18 Thread Jenny Brandis
I have been told that the spangles on the English East Midland bobbins are 
there for weight to aid in the tension. I accepted this as truth.

But ... 

My EM bobbins vary in weight depending on the beads used in the spangles.
European bobbins vary in shapes (and I am guessing) weight
If you work on a bolster pillow your bobbins hang down, thus gravity (weight) 
is affecting the tension
If you work on a cookie pillow your bobbins have a slight gravity affecting them
BUT if you are working on a flat pillow, Gravity has no affect?

So, What do your bobbins weigh? Does your tension change if you use a different 
style of bobbin?

Jenny Brandis
Brookdale, Western Australia

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