Re: [lace] Re: JoAnne's sitting in on Lier class

2005-08-10 Thread mimi23boyz
Tamara wrote:

But the following:
 it was to Greet's advantage to have another student, even if it was 
 for just half.

has me puzzled... Has IOLI changed its rules, and started to pay per 
head instead of per hour? If so, then Greet might, indeed, have 
half-profited :)

So, Anita (and all the rest of you who've attented last year's and/or 
this year's IOLI AGM)... *Have* the rules been changed?



It was my understanding, from the AGM, that the work of the Convention 
Oversight committee will not actually go into effect until the convention of 
2009 (?)...  Contracts for the next three conventions had been signed before 
the committee's work was voted on and approved.  However, I think that hosting 
groups will unofficially benefit from the work done by that committee, since 
the guidelines were developed, not as restraints, but as reflections of the 
preferences of the membership as well as the accumulated wisdom of what works.

Lee Daley has the new guidelines for anyone who would like to review them.

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA

  

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[lace] RE: JoAnne's sitting in on Lier class

2005-08-10 Thread purple lacer

But the following:
 it was to Greet's advantage to have another student, even if it was
 for just half.

has me puzzled... Has IOLI changed its rules, and started to pay per
head instead of per hour? If so, then Greet might, indeed, have
half-profited :)

But, from all I've ever heard, teachers are paid *per hour*; that's one

So, Anita (and all the rest of you who've attented last year's and/or
this year's IOLI AGM)... *Have* the rules been changed?


Okay, perhaps I mis-spoke here and made an assumption that teachers were 
paid by the student.  Sorry about that!   JoAnne did also buy the supplies 
for the class from Greet, so I think it was still somewhat of a financial 
advantage to have a part-time student.


Anita

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[lace] Re: JoAnne's sitting in on Lier class

2005-08-09 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Aug 8, 2005, at 20:14, purple lacer (Anita) wrote:

I thought I would try to clear up her comment about sitting in on 
Lier Lace Class.


JoAnne paid the fee for an afternoon class.


There'd never been any freeloaders in any IOLI (or other) workshops 
I've ever attended; as many people said, the observers drift in and out 
(though some were more obnoxious than others, in several instances), 
but never *stay*, not even on the fringes. JoAnne's being able to 
attend half of the class - on payment for half of the class - is 
unusual as well as beneficial to her (better half a loaf.. etc g) And 
it was a serendipity that Greet did have room in her class, and agreed 
to add someone who was only able to work at half speed...


I doubt JoAnne's part-timing has changed the dynamics of the class 
much; from my own observation of Greet's class (Harrisburg, PA,  July 
22-24); there were some who got it very quickly, and then there were 
some (like myself g) who, after 3 days of full tuition, still knew 
less than half :)


But the following:
it was to Greet's advantage to have another student, even if it was 
for just half.


has me puzzled... Has IOLI changed its rules, and started to pay per 
head instead of per hour? If so, then Greet might, indeed, have 
half-profited :)


But, from all I've ever heard, teachers are paid *per hour*; that's one 
of the reasons the class size tends to be fixed at 9-15 participants... 
Any fewer, and the organisers lose (unless they can persuade the 
participants to shell out more per person). Any more, and the teacher 
is likely to have to spend too much on psychiatric treatment 
afterwards, to make the whole thing worth while...


So, Anita (and all the rest of you who've attented last year's and/or 
this year's IOLI AGM)... *Have* the rules been changed?


Puzzled in LexVegas, where we had rain in the morning. Pleased DH no 
end - we saved on the water bill *and* he didn't have to work in the 
yard :) Me, I didn't grow up with the American work ethic, so I can be 
lazy and enjoy it without a valid excuse :)

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] RE: JoAnne's sitting in on Lier class

2005-08-08 Thread purple lacer

Hi All!
I was one of JoAnne's roomies at the IOLI convention.  In case she doesn't 
get back to her email right away, I thought I would try to clear up her 
comment about sitting in on Lier Lace Class.


We were lucky to have Greet Rome-Verbeylen and her Michigan lacer traveling 
comanions stop by our city (Cedar Rapids, IA) for a visit the Friday before 
the convention.  JoAnne was immediately impressed with the Lier lace 
technique and expressed her dismay that she was already signed up for a 
morning class and therefore would be unable to take Greet's all day class.  
After we got to the convention Greet said it would be okay for her to come 
for the afternoons.  JoAnne paid the fee for an afternoon class.  There were 
plenty of seats left so it was to Greet's advantage to have another student, 
even if it was for just half.  JoAnne also bought all the class supplies 
from Greet.  I hope this helps clarify her comment.


In other news, we were indeed sad to hear the news that Doris Southard's 
husband, Talmage, passed away last Wednesday.  Doris is our guild mentor and 
a wonderful lady.  If you would like her address please send me an email.


I also promise to post a convention update soon!  It was great to meet so 
many of yoiu!

Anita Hansen
Cedar Rapids, Iowa

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