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Thank you to Janet for organising the exchange this year , and loving thoughts to Sallie . Shirley in Corio, Oz. shirl200...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I received yesterday my Christmas Card from Wendy Fletcher of Victoria, Australia. It is a nice handmade card adorned with a beautiful red bell done in Idrija lace. Thank you Wendy!! -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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Dear all -- I agree completely with Tamara and others who have written in about this. There's nothing to be embarrassed about. Quite the contrary: Barbara is taking the time and trouble to do us a lovely favor, and we want to thank her for that. -- Aurelia On Dec 9, 2005, at 20:28, bevw wrote: And another headsup for 'next time' if we do this again - rather than list names, which may cause embarassment, How so? Embarassment about what??? The cards were supposed to have been sent off before Barbara posted the list of the makers from whom she'd received notice with pics. The only thing that list did was tell us who didn't have to worry about photographing/scannig the card we received. I'd already known that Pam Mattioli (my sender) had sent a picture (so I didn't have to take one), but there've been plenty of questions on the subject from receivers have you sent a pic, or shall I? Knowing who'd sent a pic of what cuts down on the possibility of duplication, which makes Barbara's life easier, since she needs to sort out what goes on her website and what doesn't... I really don't see any problem with that. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Dec 9, 2005, at 20:28, bevw wrote: And another headsup for 'next time' if we do this again - rather than list names, which may cause embarassment, How so? Embarassment about what??? The cards were supposed to have been sent off before Barbara posted the list of the makers from whom she'd received notice with pics. The only thing that list did was tell us who didn't have to worry about photographing/scannig the card we received. I'd already known that Pam Mattioli (my sender) had sent a picture (so I didn't have to take one), but there've been plenty of questions on the subject from receivers have you sent a pic, or shall I? Knowing who'd sent a pic of what cuts down on the possibility of duplication, which makes Barbara's life easier, since she needs to sort out what goes on her website and what doesn't... I really don't see any problem with that. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To all fellow Arachneans, I did not mean to offend anyone by my previous posting. I do appreciate tatting as I've been tatting on off for since I was shown how to nearly 25 years ago. For those who were offended, please accept my sincere apology. I'd just like to share something that happened last year. It was our first Christmas here in Estonia, I was looking forward to learning what the traditions here are, but I was very little disappointed that what I found available in the way of Christmas decorations were all Made in China. So I decided to make some tatted snowflakes to give as a little gift inside cards. I gave one to each of the American families that we had met during the autumn months. These are families who are here working as missionaries, not one of them sent us a card in return. They all appreciated my handwork, but I was very disillusioned by the experience. So please understand that I just expressed a preference for a card with the same quality of handwork that I'm contributing. Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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. So please understand that I just expressed a preference for a card with the same quality of handwork that I'm contributing. Just this remark is the reason, why I will not participate. Standarts, anyway by talking, are soo high! And though I am making (trying to) lace for years now, I would not dare to participate and being fired off because of the standarts here, even if people are telling it isn't the case. But regarding all answers and remarks in the years I am lurking here, I will stay where I are: lurking and learning. Ank - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Ank, this exchange is just for fun - if you would like to join in the exchange, I will match you with someone who is, like yourself, lurking and learning - you might enjoy making something for each other. Let me know? Bev And though I am making (trying to) lace for years now, I would not dare to participate and being fired off because of the standarts here, even if -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tamara, I'm agnostic rather than atheist, but you've expressed my feeling exactly. The various exchanges we have within this group, Christmas card, secret pal or anything else is about *giving* just as much as it is about receiving. Yes, of course it's nice to receive but that's an implicit part of the giving. What these exchanges are really about is love and friendship between lacemakers around the world and it's the thought and effort that goes into making something that really counts. The rules say a card with handmade lace but that doesn't stop you including something else as well. Most people on this list have skills and talents beyond lacemaking. Several years ago in an Arachne card exchange I received a fantastic card from Canada (don't think Liliane is still subscribed). The lace was simple, a braid lace tree, but it was mounted onto a watercolour painting and has little glittery stars etc glued on. I added a matte and put it into a frame and it comes out each year and is hung on the wall for a few weeks. I too have a growing collection of lacey Christmas items. Maybe it's time to display them all together instead of scattered around. Brenda On 15 Oct 2005, at 02:57, Tamara P Duvall wrote: As an atheist, I place a bit less value on the Christmastime as sharing time than most, but I too was dismayed by the somewhat mean-spirited (Scroogy? g) undertones of some of the postings. The exchange isn't compulsory, so it is, I think, a given, that everyone who signs up does the best they can - and that's what counts; not what you _get_, but what you _give_. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Everybody, My point of view in this is another one. Somebody who perhaps don't know me and hasn't met yet and probably will never have the chance to met me personally is willing to make a little piece in bobbin-, needle lace or occhi or sometjhing else to please me. When I took part in this exchange I always got to the card with the selvemade piece a report where the lacemaker lives, what she/he likes, Last year how her family came to North America. So I learned a lot and feel more familiar when she/he is writing on the list. And all this is more worth than the specific sort of lace she/he did for me. And the next point is we aren't all equal skilled. So I would be happy with ever I get. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello Ank, Please take part your partner will appreciate it. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No, Chris, don't take offense. That surely doesn't represent the feeling of most of us textile-lovers. A knitted beauty, a tatted beauty, a crocheted beauty -- who wouldn't be happy to get one of those? And Tamara's idea of a textile tree has the typical obviousness of a genius-inspired idea: how didn't we think of it long ago? -- Aurelia As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that - I can only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first and most often practiced lace. I rather get the impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also not be appreciated by some - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for the encouraging words. But, being a real cheesehead, I will stay in my lurking mode. Have fun, and I will admire the pictures on the web. Ank - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree completely with Aurelia, Chris! At the IOLI in Denver, there were several favors at each place at the lunches and the banquet, as well as in our (bulging) goodie bag (in actuality, a wonderfully useful tote bag). As it happened, I had one piece of bobbin lace and several pieces of tatted lace in the luck of my draw. And considering the projects involved, I'm sure that the tatting took every bit as long to make as the bobbin lace. Since I know enough about tatting to make a big mess, I admire examples of tatting, and have put my pretty tatted fan on my bulletin board by this computer, so I see it every day. I have every intention of learning more about tatting one of these days - because it IS pretty, and because I consider its portability a huge plus. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lace@arachne.com Date: 10/15/2005 10:33:26 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas card exchange No, Chris, don't take offense. That surely doesn't represent the feeling of most of us textile-lovers. A knitted beauty, a tatted beauty, a crocheted beauty -- who wouldn't be happy to get one of those? And Tamara's idea of a textile tree has the typical obviousness of a genius-inspired idea: how didn't we think of it long ago? -- Aurelia As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that - I can only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first and most often practiced lace. I rather get the impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also not be appreciated by some - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please don't do that Ank, I would be pleased to receive a card from you no matter what was on it. Shirley in Corio OZ. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have already told Bev to sign me up for the exchange and I will be happy with whatever I receive. Many, make that ALL, of my exchange pieces of lace are on permanent display in my dining room glass fronted cabinet but when the christmas tree is up they migrate to it. I also keep all the Christmas cards I have received, printed or actual lace, and they come out every year. I hope one day to have enough to fill one of my card holders. Looking at the web page from last year I noticed the Battenburg butterfly made by Jane and I think I have a similar one made by a guild friend which I have hanging year round from one of the brass knobs on the cabinet. When someone new visits my home I show them the exchange items and if I know they will appreciate looking more closely I open the doors and get them out. I cherish every one of them even though I can't remember who made what now, but put that down to old age. Today I taught a Christmas ornament class with a simple design as I have some beginners and I hope that my recipient will be happy with my design. One lacer finished the item and another was well on the way before he had to leave to pick up his kids. Last week I received a thank you card from a young girl who had worked on a snake on my have a go pillow at a local church demonstration. When I left I finished it up and mailed it to another child who worked the most on it and having plenty of thread on the bobbins I quickly make up another and sent it to the one who brought me the thank you card. She has been coming each year since she was six, now she is nine and is pleased to have two snakes on her bedroom notice board, one from her first time and this one. Every year I try to think of a different easy lace project for them to make and I love seeing them do it. It amazes me how they remember the stitches from one year to the next so that I can leave them to get on with it while I talk to the adults who are afraid to have a go. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 10/14/05, Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had a thought that I don't want to spend a lot of time making a piece of BL if I only receive a card with a tatted snowflake. Can participants notify you with regard to the type of lace they will be making what sort of lace they would like to receive. I have been thinking about this, and agree in principle - I don't want to put a lot of effort into a lace to go on a card, either, if what I receive appears to be put together without thought. However I can't tat, and I appreciate tatting - I might not appreciate a sloppy BL edging made with 4 pairs though :-^) except if it is made in good faith, and oozing charm :)) I think it best if, when you sign up for the exchange, you specify a preference (or not). I'll post another message. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Another viewpoint, for your consideration: Last year in the exchange, I received the most beautiful piece of Battenberg/needlelace imaginable, made by Jane Viking Swanson. Since I do not make this kind of lace, it was a special treat to receive something beautiful that I could not make myself. You may recall that I offered to set up a page to share pictures of the lace we made and received for the exchange. It is still up, and you can view last year's photos at http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Jane's butterfly is there, along with pictures of all the other ornaments that were sent to me. You'll see that there are many different styles of decoration, different levels of ability, but all are beautiful, and as Pene says, if the piece is made in good faith, we should all be grateful recipients. I'm going to post in a separate message my offer to set up another page for this year's ornaments. Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA On 10/14/05, Pene Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had a thought that I don't want to spend a lot of time making a piece of BL if I only receive a card with a tatted snowflake. Can participants notify you with regard to the type of lace they will be making what sort of lace they would like to receive. I have been thinking about this, and agree in principle - I don't want to put a lot of effort into a lace to go on a card, either, if what I receive appears to be put together without thought. However I can't tat, and I appreciate tatting - I might not appreciate a sloppy BL edging made with 4 pairs though :-^) except if it is made in good faith, and oozing charm :)) I think it best if, when you sign up for the exchange, you specify a preference (or not). I'll post another message. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Oct 14, 2005, at 19:04, Faye Owers wrote: Are we as lacemakers losing the meaning of Christmas as a time for sharing, As an atheist, I place a bit less value on the Christmastime as sharing time than most, but I too was dismayed by the somewhat mean-spirited (Scroogy? g) undertones of some of the postings. The exchange isn't compulsory, so it is, I think, a given, that everyone who signs up does the best they can - and that's what counts; not what you _get_, but what you _give_. I have a Textile Tree every year, where all the ornaments are lace or lacemaking tools (pretty bobbins and tatting shuttles; knitting needless aren't all that decorative g), or lace-related mascots (spiders and hedgehogs). The lace itself is in almost every technique and at every level of expertise; I'm striving to achieve variety, not perfection. The tree has been growing over the years of exchanges; I started with a 2-foot one, but now need a 6 footer :) One of the - treasured - ornaments is a 2 plaited snowflake, perfect for the upper branches (and perfect for the lower ones, when the tree was smaller g), which was made for me by someone with something like 6 months experience of BL. There are plenty of reasonably simple - technically - patterns that beginners can make, while enjoying the spirit of sharing - Christmas is but a time-peg on which to hang the the whole thing. For my private exchange - with Barbara Joyce, who got the Battenberg b-fly from Jane last year - I've arranged to get a knitted piece of lace, which is the only kind not yet represented on my tree. IOW, I'll be getting something I can't do myself (or not easily), same as she did from Jane, which is great. Since Barbara is no slouch in making bobbin lace (my preferred medium), I let her pick which of my designs she'd like, and now both of us feel that each has got the better bargain. The only reason I've been holding off on signing up for this year (and didn't sign up last year) is that I prefer ornaments to cards. I do hang some cards on my tree (thanks, Outi) especially now that it's so big but, even so, they're small-ish cards; big, lavish ones I can't hang even on the low branches without getting things off-balance visually. But I've started on Barbara's ornament today, so I'm sure that'll be finished in good time, leaving enough time for making another. So, OK, Bev; sign me up (I'll follow this with an official request in a mo)... What I'm offering (no choice this time g) is Windrose 1 (bobbin lace); I'll plunk it into/onto a card, but it'll be detach-able, to hang free on a tree. Once I'm assigned a recipient, I'll send her (or him g) a photo, and let her choose her colour scheme. In return, I'll accept any lace technique, any level of expertise, any colour combination, either a card or an ornament. And I promise to love whatever I get :) PS Bev, would you please announce the exchange on the chat as well, once all the rules and regulations are all ironed out? There are a few people on that list who are not on lace, but might still be interested in participating. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I just had a thought that I don't want to spend a lot of time making a piece of BL if I only receive a card with a tatted snowflake. As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that - I can only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first and most often practiced lace. I rather get the impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also not be appreciated by some, so I truly hope that those who strongly care will indeed make a their preferences known. I'd hate to think that my love and care goes into somethign that will only disappoint its recipient. After all, we've had long discussions here (and on almost every fiber list I'm on) as to how many of us will not sell or often give away our lace as it is not fully appreciated by many people. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, this is a fantastic chance for some of the newer lacers to jump in - a smallish project with a deadline so that you can't fret over every perceived mistake and let a project languish for years (guess what *I* just unearthed? :D ) I haven't done an exchange in a while, but I think I'd enjoy this one. Yay! Chris - string geek and fiber-holic :) A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for. -- Benazir Bhutto __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Oct 14, 2005, at 22:07, Chris Vail wrote: As a tatter I take a bit of offense at that Can't blame you; I would to. - I can only hope it wasn't intended as a slight of my first and most often practiced lace. Probably not; as someone wrote to me, it was, most probably, a case of open e-mail window, insert foot :) My own skill at tatting is _extremely limited_ (I learnt just enough to understand the discussions on Arachne years ago, and have forgotten it all since), so I'm always happy to get a piece. Have a delicious, gift tag sized tatted card (Christmas tree, combined with - hand-painted - background. Another thing I can't do) hanging high up every year. And a pair of tatted earrings (wear them part of the year) even higher up (they're smaller). And a black cat - that one gets paraded around Halloween, also... I rather get the impression that knitted and crocheted lace will also not be appreciated by some, so I truly hope that those who strongly care will indeed make a their preferences known. So do I hope, though I'm one of those who'll be happy to get anything, in any technique. I do have a crocheted snowflake, but don't mind getting something else in crochet, even though I can crochet some (better than tat, anywway g). And my private exchange for this year was motivated by my desire to get a piece of _knitted_ lace. I've just re-visited Barbara's last year's gallery http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ and there's a card there which is a combination of cross-stitch (main image) and BL (frame edging) The edging is, perhaps, not outstandingly complex... But the tension is excellent, there are corners in the lace, and you can barely spot the finish - what more can be asked? And, together with the cross-stitched picture of the angel (must have taken more time that I'd have been willing to spend on it, though I _can_ do cross-stitch), it's a lovely piece to display - year after year - on one's mantelpiece. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's all a matter of be creative, do your best, and enjoy the experience PS to whoever draws me as a sender... Don't expect me to starch/stiffen the piece; that's where I draw my line at... :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My computer automatically puts my return address on the top left hand corner of the envelope - only once has my missive been lovely delivered back to me! Ann in Manchester, UK, suffering from MRSA, which has twice been treated in hospital during August and October and is still with me, but which can't be caught from a computer screen! - Original Message - From: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:53 AM Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange But they also write the same thing in the top left, *front*, corner of the envelope, to please me and the US PO, and *that* way of writing your return address makes excellent sense, also. Better, possibly, if you're not using a sticky label to counteract the poor glue. With both to and from information prominently displayed on the same side of the package/letter, even the seasonal help (possibly as in: God help them) we get at our PO can *cope* So if the US post office doesn't look on the back for a return address before trashing post, an awful lot of post from the UK will be trashed despite our following Royal Mail's recommendations. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 12:53 AM 10/24/04 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: And so was I - in Poland - and so was my DH (in US). But he's 25 yrs older than I am, and the only person in US I know, who puts his label on the back of an envelope (makes better sense, to me, since you can re-inforce the sticking properties of the flap to the body that way) I was taught to put the return on the front of the envelope in typing class in the late fifties, with hints that the other way was low-class and old-fashioned -- but permitted in the case of very formal mail such as wedding invitations. We were also taught to abbreviate Rural Route as RD instead of R.R. -- You can't say 'R.R.' -- that's *railroad*! I went back to the way the backwoodsy old folks did it after getting a few missives addressed to Road 2, and never once got anything addressed to Railroad 2. We learned both the block and step-to-the-right ways of writing addresses, with the instruction that block was much more modern and businesslike. (Not to mention easier to accomplish on a manual typewriter.) -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (or seems to; the older generation tends to put the return address at the back of the envelope, rather than in the upper left corner of the front, and the PO doesn't seem to bother to check for that), So does this mean that despite not having reached 50 yet I'm older generation? Without a daughter to hand to check what is taught in school now, we were definitely taught to put a return address on the back of the envelope or package - and letters from banks/businesses with printed envelopes invariably have the return address on the seal-down flap. However, I have just looked in the current booklet published by the UK Post Office to see what the rule (here) is. Under packages requiring customs labels, it tells you to write or type your name and address as near as possible to the top left hand corner of the front of the package (Mail Made Easy page 22). Under Preparing your mail on page 24, it says We recommend that you write your address on the back of all mail so that it can be returned to you if there's a problem delivering it. So if the US post office doesn't look on the back for a return address before trashing post, an awful lot of post from the UK will be trashed despite our following Royal Mail's recommendations. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think it depends where you live where you are taught to put the return address. In Sweden we put it on the back but when I got an US penpal when I was 11 they put the return address on the upper left front. So the post office really should be taught to look at both sides of an envelope :-) Ann-Marie http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1 http://www.ettklickforskogen.se/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Oct 23, 2004, at 9:29, Jane Partridge wrote: So does this mean that despite not having reached 50 yet I'm older generation? Without a daughter to hand to check what is taught in school now, we were definitely taught to put a return address on the back of the envelope or package And so was I - in Poland - and so was my DH (in US). But he's 25 yrs older than I am, and the only person in US I know, who puts his label on the back of an envelope (makes better sense, to me, since you can re-inforce the sticking properties of the flap to the body that way) My cousin and my friends in Poland, who do not have pre-printed labels at all, write their return addresses on the back flap of the envelope, as we were all taught to do. But they also write the same thing in the top left, *front*, corner of the envelope, to please me and the US PO :) And *that* way of writing your return address makes excellent sense, also. Better, possibly, if you're not using a sticky label to counteract the poor glue. With both to and from information prominently displayed on the same side of the package/letter, even the seasonal help (possibly as in: God help them) we get at our PO can *cope* So if the US post office doesn't look on the back for a return address before trashing post, an awful lot of post from the UK will be trashed despite our following Royal Mail's recommendations. I *do* get mail from UK, with the label on the back, without any problem, despite PO's warnings to the contrary... But I don't know how much of it might have been trashed, never reaching me, do I? My Mother used to say that the letters which don't reach their destination, are the ones which hadn't been sent - a dig at my dilatory writing habits - but that was long ago, in more benign times, when it was actually true :) --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet: no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 08:34:05PM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: I was told (at our little PO) some 2 yrs ago, that mailings lacking the return address go directly into the trash bin, don't even get sent on (for the receiving PO to trash at their end). Certainly, if you hand in an envelope to a postal clerk here, and it's missing the return address (or seems to; the older generation tends to put the return address at the back of the envelope, rather than in the upper left corner of the front, and the PO doesn't seem to bother to check for that), they'll return it to you for corrections. But, if you just drop it into a slot, and they don't know whom to notify, they're supposed to junk it. At our post office here, not only does everything have to have a return address, they're even supposed to check our IDs to make sure they match the return address. Not that they do most of the time, but there's a big sign on the announcments board saying they do. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange/PO requirements
On Oct 22, 2004, at 20:37, Weronika Patena wrote: At our post office here, not only does everything have to have a return address, they're even supposed to check our IDs to make sure they match the return address. The advantage (possibly the only one g) of living in Pipidowka (Polish term for a town of no size at all) is that the postal clerks know everyone personally (and vice versa g) They seem to get a bit intense every September with the influx of U freshmen but, by Thanksgiving, it's back to: and how are you today Miss X; hope your English test was OK? Some of the customers - recent transplants from big cities (we're a tempting spot for retirees) - can't stand this chit-chat, which slows down the service, but I adore my PO. That's $3.85, Mrs D. Can I tempt you with anything else? Confirmation? Insurance? Stamps? No? And is Sev coming home for Thanksgiving? If he is, tell him I found a good turkey-hunting spot. When I go back to Warsaw, I miss all of it, for all their take your number and don't stand in line efficiency... --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet: no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
