[lace]RE: Pivot Pin

[Jane Nelson]

Thanks so much to Bev Walker and Tamara Duvall for your information  
on the pivot pin.
I will print it all out and take it to my shop where I have my pillow  
set up.


The sad part of all of this is that I had the first end done and was  
halfway up the side
when I got the idea in my head that what I had done was maybe not  
right and maybe
I'd better ask for help.  So - I don't think I'm going to retro-lace  
at this point, but continue

on and then try to do the other end using your suggestions.

As I look through the book at the other patterns, wouldn't ya know  
that this one is the
ONLY one that is done this way.  On the other patterns, the end is  
done with alternating
pins towards the center - one going all the way to the center and the  
next one going
maybe 3/4 of the way.  Leave it to me to pick the one and only that  
I'm not sure about
how to do it correctly!  But, it is a learning experience and I'm  
glad for that.  I will keep this

one as an example.

Thanks again so much.
And I'm anxious to reach the other end (maybe this afternoon)
to see how this works.

Jane Nelson
Lincoln, NE  USA
Valhalla Bee Farm, LLC - Honey, Lace and More

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[lace] Re: Pivot Pin

[Tamara P Duvall]

On Apr 27, 2008, at 14:37, Jane Nelson wrote:

I'm unfamiliar with the particular piece, but.


If that is so, there is a lot of thread that builds up on that pin.


True, 14 times around the same pin *is* a lot of times: I don't think 
I've ever tackled more than 8x, outside of Rosalibre. Depending on the 
number of pairs involved in the turn, I'd probably be tempted to do a 
scroll turn instead, or a combination of a partial scroll, followed by 
a less-loaded pivot, followed by another partial scroll. But Bev's 
right -- it's all likely to compress enough to be inoffensive, 
visually.



So, at what point do I pull the pin?


For best tension, I'd suggest pulling out and replacing the pivot pin 
after every "un-engaged" (over/under) pass, but *only after the worker 
pair is secured* at the opposite edge.



And will all that thread flatten out?


Mostly. If you pile too many passes on the pin before removing it, 
tensioning (both the worker pair and the "idle" inner passive) and 
replacing the pin... the loops are likely to end up being of an uneven 
length (the shortest one at the bottom and the longest at the top of 
the pile, with the difference in length of the loop being bigger, if 
the thread is coarse). It is then up to your own personality as to how 
much it'll bother you, long run. Bugs me no end in the one Rosalibre 
piece which does that (and you *can't* fiddle with the turn, because 
all possible fiddles are already included ), but then I'm "anal" 
about some things. If there's *no* other option -- however much more 
cumbersome/time consuming -- then I do my best to pretend it hadn't 
happened :)


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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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