Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
le 13/10/05 0:42, Barb ETx à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > Ladies, you all know more that I do. > but this looks and has the feel of some patterns that I got from the LePuy > Lace schoolI do not know if they are old or not, The booklet was revised > in 1941. I cannot read the FrenchI can only read the patterns.lots > of leaves and those tiny raised dots, that I also found in the DeDillmont > books. > my ha'penny worth > BarbE my opinion too . it reminded me of some Retournac samples i saw last summer (Retournac is 20mn's drive from Le Puy) .. the tiny raised dots are leaves too ... dominique from France. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
Ladies, you all know more that I do. but this looks and has the feel of some patterns that I got from the LePuy Lace schoolI do not know if they are old or not, The booklet was revised in 1941. I cannot read the FrenchI can only read the patterns.lots of leaves and those tiny raised dots, that I also found in the DeDillmont books. my ha'penny worth BarbE - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: bevw Cc: Tamara P Duvall ; lace Arachne Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace On 12 Oct 2005, at 06:15, bevw wrote: >> If it's _antique_ (1890ties), I'll eat whatever's necessary (don't >> have >> many hats)... :) Looks very much like Eeva-Lisa Kortelahti, but I >> can't > > It looks like Bedfordshire - IMO and feeling cynical, not handmade, > looking at the 'spiders' for instance. Doesn't say Kortelahti to me, but not typical Bedfordshire either; >> The "per yard" price is, to me, "a red flag for the bull" - how much >> _hand made_ lace is there - left, from 150+yrs ago - to be sold as >> yardage today? > > maybe not from 150 +, but from 100 years, quite a bit, among > collectors. probably made in Eastern Europe or Asia - but 1980s not 1880s! If you click on the home page link: http://www.dollsandlace.com/cgi-bin/dalshop.pl?cat=AntiqueLace&view=cat you'll see some more "antique" lace on sale, with some very suspect descriptions. With the exception of this one, the doilies, and the knitting, tatting and crochet it all looks like fairly modern machine made lace to me. As one would expect with yardage lace. The interesting one though is the "new item" Net Lace/Metallic Gold which is described as antique 'lace' which has stored quite well over the decades. If it really is antique then all that gold really is gold then it's a bargain at $25 per foot, but if the gold is really metalised polyester.. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/130 - Release Date: 10/12/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
On 10/12/05, suzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can you make picots on a machine? Yes. At least a machine can duplicate the appearance of a picot. > sure, square tallies with the center being not filled in in beds lace. They're called raised and rolled tallies, you make them at the same time, but on top of, another bit (and they're quite fun, you kind of squidgy in a pin at right angles so that the pairs hang from the pin - then shove the works so that the tally rolls, and continue with the rest of the work. We also do leaf-shaped tallies on top of other work, in Beds, although that, too, is a Cluny element. I haven't seen raised and rolled tallies in Cluny - but I have a piece of machine made Beds., with rolled tallies throughout. The example from the dolls site doesn't seem handmade to me - it is the edges and the spider 'legs' that weave unconventionally - but not being able to focus closer - I can't really tell for sure. Perhaps the person selling it could be queried as to how they know it is handmade... -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
> probably made in Eastern Europe or Asia - but 1980s not 1880s! > > If you click on the home page link: > http://www.dollsandlace.com/cgi-bin/dalshop.pl?cat=AntiqueLace&view=cat > you'll see some more "antique" lace on sale, with some very suspect > descriptions. > With the exception of this one, the doilies, and the knitting, > tatting > and crochet it all looks like fairly modern machine made lace to me. > > As one would expect with yardage lace. > can you make picots on a machine? it is the only one advertised that i saw as hand made, so the rest are machine made. it doesn't look at all like bedfordshire. i have never seen, although i wouldn't know for sure, square tallies with the center being not filled in in beds lace. it might be cluny. from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
probably not really from that era, but if its older than 20 years most old things are considered antique. i'm not sure what the rule of that is, but that is what i heard. i'm getting really jealous looking at all those perfect picots!! i can't afford 35 dollars per yard, but its a nice pattern to imitate. i'm going to save it and print, and then make and add a pricking of it to my very empty collection of prickings. adding one like this to the few i have will still fill the book! i plan to go through some of those cheap lace catalogs to see what kind of patterns i can interpret. it should be no time at all that i have a nice catalog of my own for my personal use. unfortunatelly they don't tell you where to add or take off the pairs of bobbins! i'm not very experienced enough to guess that. i guess when you get to a point where you need 2 pairs, you add them, and then when you have too many, you either made a mistake or time to take them out! the pattern in the url seems like it would be easy to figure out! lol!! i've never heard of the woman you mentioned. my guess is she is a very prolific lace pattern maker or lace maker. now i have even a name to throw in my little lace journal! Looks very much like Eeva-Lisa Kortelahti, but I > can't > pin-point the pattern, since I can't afford to have the entire canon > of > her books. > from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
On 12 Oct 2005, at 06:15, bevw wrote: If it's _antique_ (1890ties), I'll eat whatever's necessary (don't have many hats)... :) Looks very much like Eeva-Lisa Kortelahti, but I can't It looks like Bedfordshire - IMO and feeling cynical, not handmade, looking at the 'spiders' for instance. Doesn't say Kortelahti to me, but not typical Bedfordshire either; The "per yard" price is, to me, "a red flag for the bull" - how much _hand made_ lace is there - left, from 150+yrs ago - to be sold as yardage today? maybe not from 150 +, but from 100 years, quite a bit, among collectors. probably made in Eastern Europe or Asia - but 1980s not 1880s! If you click on the home page link: http://www.dollsandlace.com/cgi-bin/dalshop.pl?cat=AntiqueLace&view=cat you'll see some more "antique" lace on sale, with some very suspect descriptions. With the exception of this one, the doilies, and the knitting, tatting and crochet it all looks like fairly modern machine made lace to me. As one would expect with yardage lace. The interesting one though is the "new item" Net Lace/Metallic Gold which is described as antique 'lace' which has stored quite well over the decades. If it really is antique then all that gold really is gold then it's a bargain at $25 per foot, but if the gold is really metalised polyester.. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
> If it's _antique_ (1890ties), I'll eat whatever's necessary (don't have > many hats)... :) Looks very much like Eeva-Lisa Kortelahti, but I can't It looks like Bedfordshire - IMO and feeling cynical, not handmade, looking at the 'spiders' for instance. > > The "per yard" price is, to me, "a red flag for the bull" - how much > _hand made_ lace is there - left, from 150+yrs ago - to be sold as > yardage today? maybe not from 150 +, but from 100 years, quite a bit, among collectors. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: antique hand made bobbin lace
On Oct 11, 2005, at 23:14, suzy wrote: here is some nice hand made bobbin lace still for sale from the 1890's https://www.dollsandlace.com/cgi-bin/dalshop.pl? cat=AntiqueLace&view=product&id=LA432S If it's _antique_ (1890ties), I'll eat whatever's necessary (don't have many hats)... :) Looks very much like Eeva-Lisa Kortelahti, but I can't pin-point the pattern, since I can't afford to have the entire canon of her books. Still... At 7" (18cm) wide, $35 a _yard_ is dirt cheap (it's definitely hand-made lace, and nice with it, IMO). The "per yard" price is, to me, "a red flag for the bull" - how much _hand made_ lace is there - left, from 150+yrs ago - to be sold as yardage today? -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
