[lace] RE: seven

2004-06-03 Thread Helen Bell
Seven books of Harry Potter?

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie living in Denver

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[lace] Re: Seven one more time!

2004-06-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 3, 2004, at 21:07, Patricia Ann Fisher wrote:
I'm enjoying listening to all the buzz about the arachne group lace 
project
and I certainly want to be in on it!
What I'm enjoying more than anything else is seing people, who usually 
just lurk, actually *post*; that's a good measurement of how bright the 
original idea was (Sue's? Jane's? I didn't keep the original posting, 
though I've been keeping track of most of the subsequent ones)

All the talk about sevens makes me
think about the story about As I was going to St. Ives I met a man 
with seven
wives. The seven wives had seven sacks. The seven sacks had seven 
cats. The
seven cats had seven kits. Kits, cats, sacks, wives, how many were 
going to
St. Ives?
Which brings us right back to ones and sevens... Neat :)
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Re: [lace] Re: Seven one more time!

2004-06-03 Thread Malvary Cole
Tamara wrote: that's a good measurement of how bright the original idea
was (Sue's? Jane's? I didn't keep the original posting,

I believe the original idea was from Jacquie who wrote on May 30th I
shan't see the exhibition until 3rd August, but I hope my catalogues arrive
before then, and I can do some arachne spotting.  Sounds like we did
well.  Perhaps we should do a group entry next time! Jacquie.

Malvary in Ottawa

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[lace] Re: seven

2004-06-02 Thread Deborah Metters
I spent hours engrossed in Brewer's Dictionary of
Phrase and Fable last night, and found out all sorts
of seven-related things. 

Anyway, the seven deadly sins each have an associated
colour, animal, and opposite cardinal virtue.

Pride: violet, horse, humility
Envy: green, dog, kindness
Anger: red, bear, patience
Sloth: light blue, goat, dilligence
Greed; yellow, frog, liberality
Gluttony: orange, pig, abstincence
Lust: blue, cow, chastity

Personally, I wouldn't have said that goats were
particularly slothful, or cows lustful, but there you
go.

Hope this helps someone. 

Deborah

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Re: [lace] Re: seven

2004-06-02 Thread Sue Babbs
We could do it as a seven sided building - with seven doors  seven signs.
Three dimensional of course!
Sue
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 Anyway, the seven deadly sins each have an associated
 colour, animal, and opposite cardinal virtue.

 Greed; yellow, frog, liberality

 This brought about the idea of seven pub (?bar) signs The Greedy
 Frog depicting a large frog on a yellow background, surrounded by food?
 It would, of course, have to be a free house in order to retain its
 liberality

 Just thought, no, I am not referring to anything other than the
 amphibian type of frog!
 -- 
 Jane Partridge

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[lace] Re: Seven

2004-06-02 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 2, 2004, at 15:44, Panza, Robin wrote:
Didn't the Plucky Little Taylor (a children's story) kill seven in one 
blow?
So he did, as reported by the Brothers Grimm :)
The design could be a fly-swatter with 7 splats on it!
Add to that Helen's contribution:
Malvary Cole wrote:
I just remembered the Magpie Rhyme - last line:  Seven for a secret
never to be told.
I think I can do that one on my own!! All you need is a frame, with 
these
words written at the bottom, or the top...There you are! Instant secret
lace!!
With the 7-splatted fly swatter *within that frame* (and let them guess 
*which* secret it is... g)  Love it :)

I also liked Magda's tale of the Belgian royal seven; it reminded me 
of the magic attached to the 7th son of the 7th son (and, the same 
applies to daughters, I think; though, if I remember a-right, nothing 
good comes out of *that* combination g).

It reminded me also of *all kinds* of superstitions connected with the 
number seven; I spent many years in my childhood and teen years 
collecting public transportation tickets whose numbers added up to 21 
(3x 7, both being lucky)... :) Come to think of it, the beyond seven 
mountains...  etc ,*also* invokes the lucky 21, repeating the 
beyond seven phrase three times. And then there's the 21st birthday; 
the sign of having arrived at adulthood...

Once on the superstition trail, and prodded by Debora's list of 
colours of sin, I dipped into my Cassell Dictionary of 
Superstitions... Quote:

The number seven is associated with the supernatural and will bring 
success to any project associated with it (good news g T). God 
created the world in seven days, man lives through seven 'ages' and in 
ancient times there were thought to be seven planets. The seventh son 
of the seventh son is said to have the gift of second sight and will 
make a good doctor, having special powers of healing. If the date of a 
person's birth is divisible by seven, he or she will enjoy good luck 
throughout life. The myth of the 'seven year itch' said to tempt adults 
who have been in the same relationship for that length of time to form 
new partnerships (I think the person writing this might have profited 
from Eats, shoots and leaves g T), is probably derived from the 
ancient ntion that major changes in a person's life occur after every 
seven (or nine) years. This idea is welcomed by some parents, who 
console themselves that badly behaved children  will change their ways 
once they reach the age of seven.   End quote.

That last one... In the old days of artisan guilds, it was more you'd 
better, or else, rather than *hoping* for a change... :) The whole 
system was based on a 7-year period; you started sweeping the floor, 
running errands, and observing your master at about 7. At about 14, you 
became an apprentice, and started learning in earnest. At about 21, you 
became a journeyman, semi-independent, travelling and studying with 
other masters...

I don't think that we need to worry about anyone stealing the ideas via 
the archives. On the one hand, Seven seems to be so firmly entrenched 
in the various cultures, that some repetitions/similiarities among 
various projects are inevitable. On the other hand, there are so many 
of them, we can afford to spare some :)

And, as someone (Jacquie?) pointed out, once (if?) the project gets 
going (ie we reach the stage of a real cartoon, on which everyone's 
agreed), the whole thing is likely to go underground for a while, 
with the visuals available only to participants, and with only words 
being banded on the list (and, probably, not even those; it's very easy 
to create a special list... Even *I* can do it g)

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[lace] Re: Seven...

2004-06-01 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 1, 2004, at 20:19, Jane Viking Swanson wrote:
Hi All,  Don't forget the Seven Dwarfs!  Personally, I'm thinking
about Tamara's seven mountains, etc. and Jo's village name.
Me, I like the sins (because of colour possibilities) and the Seven 
Sisters roses (because many people could participate)

I'm thinking about squares that fit together to
form the larger picture.  Then some would be easier to make
to fill in the sky or the seven forests.
And I'm thinking that a 3-D project would open the project to more 
participants (though it would be a nightmare to assemble and then ship 
to its destination), *if* we're permitted to go ahead with it.

pattern drafting such a large project sounds like a nightmare!
Well, as I remember it, the *size* is prescribed by the competition 
rules (though I don't remember what it is... Anyone?). That's why I'm 
thinking a 3-D might offer more scope; an ordinary lace group is likely 
to have maybe 10-15 members participating. If this Arachne project 
flies, we're likely to have many more. Even if we have a division of 
labour (different people drawing overall pictures, deciding which 
drawing to accept for the group, designing it in lace so the bits would 
fit, parcelling out the bits, with instructions etc), it will still be 
difficult to accomodate everyone.

Unless, of course, the whole idea becomes so popular, that most people 
decide to enter individual projects, with a little as inpired by 
Arachne note attached :) In which case, the organizers might, again, 
not be able to exhibit everyone's entry...

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[lace] Re: Seven........

2004-05-31 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On May 31, 2004, at 17:02, Sue Babbs wrote:
Ooh! I like that one - lots of floaty veils to construct and a rich, 
vivid
coloured  setting to set the dancer in

, dance of the seven veils,
A veil for each sin, and and a sin for each day of the week? g
I'm collecting all the sugestions which have surfaced so far, and 
many of them are interesting indeed.  I'd like to add one:

Beyond seven mountains, beyond seven forests, beyond seven rivers... 
Which is the Polish way of starting a fairy tale (the equivalent of the 
English once upon a time...) I'd love to see an Arachne group project 
going, but we've had straw fires (I think the English equivalent is 
flash in the pan) before  :)

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