Re: [lace] Thread for a boobin lace scarf

2015-03-29 Thread Anna Binnie

I am curious - how did you use the contrasting colour?  Was it the
worker in your cloth stitch sections?

I"m using colour as workers on the cloth stitch areas but also as a 
gimp, two types 'in your face' ie 2 strands wound on and 'gentle' one 
strand.


Anna from a cloudy Sydney where I think a storm is brewing and my 
daughter's cat is on my lap as I wrtie


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Re: [lace] Thread for a boobin lace scarf

2015-03-29 Thread Veronika Irvine

Thanks Anna.

There is a good description of how to wind and secure bobbins with S versus 
Z twists on page 143 of Kloppeln by Ulricke Lohr.  I am also left-right 
dyslexic so I have the page bookmarked.


Your guidelines for measuring how much thread to wind on are very helpful. 
It is a question I often ask myself.  Here is a summary of your description 
which I think will be quite handy for me in the future (please correct me if 
I have any of it wrong):


   Footsides: 1.5 times finished length
   Footside passives:  1 times finished length + 5 inches
   Workers: 10 times finished length *
   Ground threads: 2.5 times finished length **

* The amount of thread to wind on the workers depends on the width of cloth 
stitch band so it will vary quite a bit.  It will be roughly 4 times the 
number of horizontal grid points spanned times the finished length. (e.g. a 
cloth band across  .   .   .   .  grid points has a span of 3.  For a 10 cm 
long cloth band of this width, it will take 120 cm of thread per bobbin on 
the workers.)


** This applies for Torchon ground and similar grounds

For my scarf I bought 3 x 30 gm ball which contain 300m and another 300m of 
a contrasting colour.


I am curious - how did you use the contrasting colour?  Was it the worker in 
your cloth stitch sections?


I would also like to thank all those who emailed me in person.  Here is a 
brief summary of the suggestions I have received:


Warp yarn has as tighter twist than weft yarn.
Twist Angle - The greater the twist angle, the stiffer the cloth will be. 
Look for thread with an angle in the range 25 to 45 degrees.
Machine spun yarns for weaving have spinning oils on them that need to be 
washed out after completing the project and this will change the yarn.
Bloom - This is how much the thread will swell up when washed.  Look for a 
thread with very little bloom to preserve the holes of the lace.  Wool tends 
to have a lot of bloom but silk may also have a little bit.
8/2 Tencel  and 10/2 mercerized  cotton make nice scarves.  Even loose 
threads and novelty threads with added texture can be used with caution - 
just keep an eye on the twists and occasionally twirl the bobbins around to 
add some twist back in.


Many thanks,
Veronika

in Victoria BC, amongst the rhododendrons, thankful that it is raining today 
so that I can stop gardening and make lace 


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Re: [lace] Thread for a boobin lace scarf

2015-03-27 Thread Anna Binnie

My question to you is, what qualities should I look for when choosing a thread
for a bobbin lace scarf?  I would like it to be soft and flowing so I am
thinking silk or a silk blend and I want the grid size to be fairly large,
maybe 8 mm between footside pins.  My biggest concern is that the threads I
have been looking at do not have much of a twist.  Will they fall apart as I
am working?  The shop owner is very knowledgeable and dyes and spins some of
the threads that he sells.  So what questions should I ask him about his
threads?





I am currently working on a silk scarf, with silk designed for knitting 
and not very tightly spun. It is working out a treat!!! When you 
wind your bobbins make sure it doesn't untwist the twist. Since I have 
dylexia with right left issues my rule is to wind a few bobbins  bobbins 
with a bit of thread and work a small sample and check if it unravels or 
tightens up. Someone on the list will tell us which way to wind.


I'm assuming you will be using torchon in your design. Rule of thumb:-
How long do you want the scarf to be, say 40 inches, wind footside 
bobbins with 1 1/2 x 40 inches ie about 60 inches
footside passives about 45 inches (assuming no twists on these otherwise 
allow more)


all others except workers 2.5 x length
workers would require a whole lot more and you will have to add extra 
thread think about 10 x length of scarf, it depends on how far they have 
to travel across and back.


When you buy your silk look at the length of thread not the weight.

For my scarf I bought 3 x 30 gm ball which contain 300m and another 300m 
of a contrasting colour. I'm using 74 pairs of bobbins on a 0.8mm grid 
and the scarf is quite wide. I have used up 2 balls of the main and half 
the contrasting colour. This means I have extra thread if I need to add 
to workers or miscalculated initially.


I hope this helps

Anna in a cool but sunny Sydney

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[lace] Thread for a boobin lace scarf

2015-03-27 Thread Veronika Irvine
Dear Lacemakers,

I have been admiring the scarf that Martina Wolter-Kampmann is wearing in the
video that accompanies her book Unsichtbar\Invisible.  I am thinking of
designing and making something like that for myself.  I wandered into a local
weaving supply store (Knotty by Nature for those of you in the vicinity of
Victoria BC) and was looking at their hand dyed silk threads.

My question to you is, what qualities should I look for when choosing a thread
for a bobbin lace scarf?  I would like it to be soft and flowing so I am
thinking silk or a silk blend and I want the grid size to be fairly large,
maybe 8 mm between footside pins.  My biggest concern is that the threads I
have been looking at do not have much of a twist.  Will they fall apart as I
am working?  The shop owner is very knowledgeable and dyes and spins some of
the threads that he sells.  So what questions should I ask him about his
threads?

Many thanks,
Veronika

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