Re: [lace] larger pillows
Well, there is that... But in actual fact, I use the same blocks over and over (even when I use them all!), and it would take a very long time and a lot of lace to wear out one of the foam pillows... and the cost is low enough that one could simply buy another. Clay Andrea Lamble wrote: but surely then you'd always be using the same bit of the pillow to work on and it would wear out more quickly. Using a symetrical pillow allows you to change which part you work on Just a thought. Andrea Cambridge. UK CC: lace@arachne.com From: paternos...@appleshack.com Subject: Re: [lace] larger pillows Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:28:29 +0100 To: lacel...@verizon.net Just yesterday I set up a piece on a 24" octagonal pillow. It's not a particularly big pattern; a piece of torchon I said I'd design for a future YLM pattern book, but that was the pillow available and as I was positioning the pricking I though that I wouldn't be using the back third of the pillow at all. Maybe I'll have a go some time at making a D shaped pillow, it would appear that there's a need and a gap in the market for D shaped flat/cookie lace pillows. Brenda On 9 May 2009, at 21:18, Alice Howell wrote: I like working on a 20" cookie pillow for smaller projects. I find that the far 4-5 inches of the pillow are not used much. The 20" pillow won't fit in a suitcase very well. One day I tried cutting a slice off the back of a pillow to make the front to back measurement less than 18" to fit a suitcase better. It worked well. And I found that I really liked using the pillow. That missing part on the far side was not missed. I'm going to try it on a 24" pillow since I have an extra one on hand. I'll cut off the far edge so I have 17.5" depth left, but will have more room on each side than on the 20"pillow. It should hold more bobbins. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] larger pillows
but surely then you'd always be using the same bit of the pillow to work on and it would wear out more quickly. Using a symetrical pillow allows you to change which part you work on Just a thought. Andrea Cambridge. UK > CC: lace@arachne.com > From: paternos...@appleshack.com > Subject: Re: [lace] larger pillows > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:28:29 +0100 > To: lacel...@verizon.net > > Just yesterday I set up a piece on a 24" octagonal pillow. It's not a > particularly big pattern; a piece of torchon I said I'd design for a > future YLM pattern book, but that was the pillow available and as I was > positioning the pricking I though that I wouldn't be using the back > third of the pillow at all. > > Maybe I'll have a go some time at making a D shaped pillow, it would > appear that there's a need and a gap in the market for D shaped > flat/cookie lace pillows. > > Brenda > > > On 9 May 2009, at 21:18, Alice Howell wrote: > > > I like working on a 20" cookie pillow for smaller projects. I find > > that the far 4-5 inches of the pillow are not used much. The 20" > > pillow won't fit in a suitcase very well. One day I tried cutting a > > slice off the back of a pillow to make the front to back measurement > > less than 18" to fit a suitcase better. It worked well. And I found > > that I really liked using the pillow. That missing part on the far > > side was not missed. > > > > I'm going to try it on a 24" pillow since I have an extra one on hand. > > I'll cut off the far edge so I have 17.5" depth left, but will have > > more room on each side than on the 20"pillow. It should hold more > > bobbins. > > > > Brenda in Allhallows, Kent > http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place Learn more! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows/table
I would like to see the photos of your Bobbi pillow and your folding pillow. Do Snowgoose still sell the Bobbi? I do have a One and Only from Pete that I use but did not want to cut that one up to fit the suitcase. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Roberta S Donnelly wrote: From: Roberta S Donnelly Subject: Re: [lace] larger pillows/table To: jbl...@sbcglobal.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 5:17 AM I worked with Pete from Snowgoose and designed a thing that we called a 'Bobbi Pillow' about 10 years ago. He cuts it for me (or who ever) by taking one of his regular cookie pillows and cutting off the back. Then cutting out a circle from the center. The same kind of idea as Janice did with the blocks but it is a larger area. The one circle that I have is 10" the other one is 12" So the circle is large enough that you don't have to deal with blocks and the line in between them and the circles can be popped out and switched. If you are inclined to have photos just let me know and I will email them directly. I've also done one that was as above with a split base that could be folded in half for smaller packing. Good luck with all your ideas! bobbi - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows/table
I worked with Pete from Snowgoose and designed a thing that we called a 'Bobbi Pillow' about 10 years ago. He cuts it for me (or who ever) by taking one of his regular cookie pillows and cutting off the back. Then cutting out a circle from the center. The same kind of idea as Janice did with the blocks but it is a larger area. The one circle that I have is 10" the other one is 12" So the circle is large enough that you don't have to deal with blocks and the line in between them and the circles can be popped out and switched. If you are inclined to have photos just let me know and I will email them directly. I've also done one that was as above with a split base that could be folded in half for smaller packing. Good luck with all your ideas! bobbi On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Janice Blair writes: > Brenda wrote: > would > appear that there's a need and a gap in the market for D shaped > flat/cookie lace pillows.> > > I made a D shaped pillow to fit my suitcase by sawing off the back > edge of a > pillow made of builders foam. I also cut out a rectangle from the > center back > so I could insert ethafoam blocks. My purpose was to be able to use > the > pillow should I ever have two different classes as conventions. It > worked > fine but I think next time I would carve the edge down more around > the front > and sides to make it more comfortable when working. I mounted the > whole thing > on a thick cardboard base covered with faux suede and put a > decorative braid > around the whole pillow and extended that across the gap at the > back. This > held the block in place when I pinned the braid to the block and > pillow. > Maybe some enterprising supplier will start making lightweight > suitcase shaped > pillows. > > ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Contractor Training - Click Here http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOa0ZMvxLyzAbDGvuFxsXokpMyYnUctyEPGua8wu4fmu06M04hyRi/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] larger pillows/table
Brenda wrote: I made a D shaped pillow to fit my suitcase by sawing off the back edge of a pillow made of builders foam. I also cut out a rectangle from the center back so I could insert ethafoam blocks. My purpose was to be able to use the pillow should I ever have two different classes as conventions. It worked fine but I think next time I would carve the edge down more around the front and sides to make it more comfortable when working. I mounted the whole thing on a thick cardboard base covered with faux suede and put a decorative braid around the whole pillow and extended that across the gap at the back. This held the block in place when I pinned the braid to the block and pillow. Maybe some enterprising supplier will start making lightweight suitcase shaped pillows. Talking about travelling to conventions, I just invested money in a folding laptop "Table tote". The legs can be extended to any height, 12 inches to 29 inches, (at the moment it is just right for sitting on the sofa to make lace). The whole thing weighs less than 3 lbs and is about the size of a laptop. The surface can be extended by using the lid and I have put a 22" pillow on it. It probably would not withstand the cat test. It even has an extending document holder that could be used to hold diagrams. I will be testing it this year at convention if I get into a bobbin lace class. I think the price is about $50 but we got a discount and free shipping because my guild sent a group order. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows
Just yesterday I set up a piece on a 24" octagonal pillow. It's not a particularly big pattern; a piece of torchon I said I'd design for a future YLM pattern book, but that was the pillow available and as I was positioning the pricking I though that I wouldn't be using the back third of the pillow at all. Maybe I'll have a go some time at making a D shaped pillow, it would appear that there's a need and a gap in the market for D shaped flat/cookie lace pillows. Brenda On 9 May 2009, at 21:18, Alice Howell wrote: I like working on a 20" cookie pillow for smaller projects. I find that the far 4-5 inches of the pillow are not used much. The 20" pillow won't fit in a suitcase very well. One day I tried cutting a slice off the back of a pillow to make the front to back measurement less than 18" to fit a suitcase better. It worked well. And I found that I really liked using the pillow. That missing part on the far side was not missed. I'm going to try it on a 24" pillow since I have an extra one on hand. I'll cut off the far edge so I have 17.5" depth left, but will have more room on each side than on the 20"pillow. It should hold more bobbins. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] larger pillows
I am short, and have a problem working on the far side of a large pillow. I don't have a large block pillow so have done a couple large, weird projects on a 24" cookie pillow, making temporary extensions at the edges and stretching to reach the far side. For a straight lace, I really like my very large roller pillow. It's 29" wide, but has only 11" on the front apron between me and the roller. It's a 13" long roller, about 5" diameter. I'm currently making a scarf/shawl on it. It's very comfortable to work on with the prime working area about a foot from me. It's very heavy and awkward to transport, though. I prefer to use it at home but have been taking it to demos this week. I like working on a 20" cookie pillow for smaller projects. I find that the far 4-5 inches of the pillow are not used much. The 20" pillow won't fit in a suitcase very well. One day I tried cutting a slice off the back of a pillow to make the front to back measurement less than 18" to fit a suitcase better. It worked well. And I found that I really liked using the pillow. That missing part on the far side was not missed. I'm going to try it on a 24" pillow since I have an extra one on hand. I'll cut off the far edge so I have 17.5" depth left, but will have more room on each side than on the 20"pillow. It should hold more bobbins. My wish list does have a large, flexible block pillow on it, so sometime I might make one. But now I have empty pillows that need projects, so I can peruse my books, and dream. Then wind bobbins. Alice in Oregon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows?
For circular edgings and designs which re worked in all directions I have a 24"/60 cm pillow, but it is too big to comfortably work at the back of. For yardage with a lot of bobbins or large scale torchon with teh big continental bobbins I made a wide roller pillow. The 30"/75cm apron was carved from sheets of polystyrene using a kitchen knife and the roller is a roll of wall insulation foam, so 20"/50cm wide. Awkward for carrying around, but OK to work at. Brenda On 6 May 2009, at 13:35, Clay Blackwell wrote: This is one reason to use a pillow with moveable blocks. You're able to start the piece in a comfortable place, and only move it up as you work. My large pillow is rectangular, because I reasoned that the space at the "back" was wasted... I just needed the space on the sides. This has been a good configuration for me. You may want to try it sometime. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] larger pillows
I realize that this discussion is mainly about having a large enough pillow to hold hundreds of bobbins. However, I can't help but mention a bit of advice (that I haven't followed) contained in some book by a noted authority (which one, I don't recall) which claimed that when one tried to work large pieces on a large pillow, one inevitably ended up with thread tensioning issues, as well as physical back pain. She claimed that the lacemakers of old were more inclined to work small pieces and then join them together into large pieces, rather than work a large piece on a large pillow. Of course, they were expert joiners. I thought it was an interesting observation, though, as I see people designing ever greater and more unwieldy pillows on which to work larger pieces. In particular, I have noted that old chantilly fans are worked in small and illogical pieces and then joined together invisibly. Personally, I tend to use a block pillow. But I think there is some merit in this alternative approach, especially if we all learn expert joining skills. Devon **Big savings on Dellâs most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=http :%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows?
Really good points. Since I had surgery that ended up limiting the use of my left arm I've had a terrible time with my humoungous, straw-stuffed cookie pillow; it's too big to reach the other side and still be able to use both hands and it's very heavy, too. Although I'm doing mostly Cantu' at the moment, I also still do some Torchon edgings for church work. This conversation has convinced me to buy a small, lightweight travel pillow for the purpose. Arache scores again. =) Sr. Claire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows?
Hi Dee... I completely understand what you're saying. This is one reason to use a pillow with moveable blocks. You're able to start the piece in a comfortable place, and only move it up as you work. My large pillow is rectangular, because I reasoned that the space at the "back" was wasted... I just needed the space on the sides. This has been a good configuration for me. You may want to try it sometime. Clay Dee Palin wrote: I have two larger pillows, but use them as little as possible. I find stretching over them when I start a pattern is very hard on my shoulders and arms, so I now prefer smaller pieces or edgings which I can make on smaller pillows or block pillows. Dee Palin Warwickshire - Original Message - From: "the Mouzons" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: [lace] larger pillows? A larger pillow is definitely advantageous! Clay is right on there. I took a lace class from Geraldine Stott once, and we asked her about working with a lot of bobbins; her advice was just that...get a bigger pillow. When probed as to how big you might need, she said she had one that she had to hold slanted to the side to get it through a door! Debbie in Florida mmou...@bellsouth.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows?
I have two larger pillows, but use them as little as possible. I find stretching over them when I start a pattern is very hard on my shoulders and arms, so I now prefer smaller pieces or edgings which I can make on smaller pillows or block pillows. Dee Palin Warwickshire - Original Message - From: "the Mouzons" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: [lace] larger pillows? A larger pillow is definitely advantageous! Clay is right on there. I took a lace class from Geraldine Stott once, and we asked her about working with a lot of bobbins; her advice was just that...get a bigger pillow. When probed as to how big you might need, she said she had one that she had to hold slanted to the side to get it through a door! Debbie in Florida mmou...@bellsouth.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Fw: [lace] larger pillows?
We made a large block pillow which is slopped in to fit closer to me and inside my chair arms and because it has the moveable blocks I can keep the working area closer to me (short arms:-). We made it with an 11 inch square than can be used for a one piece of lace, with a couple of the half blocks or 4 of the half blocks but still 11 inch wide. It works well. I need my sloping table to sit it on, cant work with it completely on my lap when out and about, but it has many great uses. I have read bits about the all moveable blocks and think that sounds like a great way to get use of all the blocks. Sue T Dorset UK A larger pillow is definitely advantageous! Clay is right on there. I took a lace class from Geraldine Stott once, and we asked her about working with a lot of bobbins; her advice was just that...get a bigger pillow. When probed as to how big you might need, she said she had one that she had to hold slanted to the side to get it through a door! Debbie in Florida mmou...@bellsouth.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] larger pillows?
Yup!! That's my favorite!! Clay the Mouzons wrote: A larger pillow is definitely advantageous! Clay is right on there. I took a lace class from Geraldine Stott once, and we asked her about working with a lot of bobbins; her advice was just that...get a bigger pillow. When probed as to how big you might need, she said she had one that she had to hold slanted to the side to get it through a door! Debbie in Florida mmou...@bellsouth.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] larger pillows?
A larger pillow is definitely advantageous! Clay is right on there. I took a lace class from Geraldine Stott once, and we asked her about working with a lot of bobbins; her advice was just that...get a bigger pillow. When probed as to how big you might need, she said she had one that she had to hold slanted to the side to get it through a door! Debbie in Florida mmou...@bellsouth.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
