Re: [lace] pillow stands

[Diana Smith]

Most of what has been described have been tables.  I have several of those 
mentioned in the correspondence.  But the stand I prefer, especially for 
travel, is not a table but a stand.  It was given to me by Jeannette Van 
Ord in the Netherlands and is the kind that is used in Bruges and many 
other places in that part of the world.  It is basically an adjustable 
column: the inner length slides up and down inside a case and is held in 
place by a nail thrust through holes. There is a simple cross piece at the 
top of the inner column,  and it has a flat base attached to the outer 
case on which to rest the feet and hold the whole thing steady.<


This exactly describes the stand I use. I purchased mine in Bruges some 
years ago. It came from an old family run business - whose name I cannot for 
the life of me remember though I think it could have been something like 
Charlakins?


As I recall they sold mainly menswear and also various items used by 
lacemakers.


Diana in Northants where spring dipped its toe in the water yesterday and 
decided to go back to bed till it got warmer! 


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[lace] pillow stands

[tess1929]

Most of what has been described have been tables.  I have several of those 
mentioned in the correspondence.  But the stand I prefer, especially for 
travel, is not a table but a stand.  It was given to me by Jeannette Van Ord in 
the Netherlands and is the kind that is used in Bruges and many other places in 
that part of the world.  It is basically an adjustable column: the inner length 
slides up and down inside a case and is held in place by a nail thrust through 
holes. There is a simple cross piece at the top of the inner column,  and it 
has a flat base attached to the outer case on which to rest the feet and hold 
the whole thing steady. The base is the right size to fit into my carry-on 
suitcase. The pillow rests between the cross piece at the top of the column and 
my knees.  It fits any chair, high or low.  It works best with a flat block 
pillow and continental bobbins.  

I have given the pattern for this to several friends with handy husbands and 
they have been pleased with the results. It is really hard to describe in 
words.  If someone is really interested, I can take a picture and email it to 
her.

Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in Maine, USA, where spring is being hinted at way too 
early for these parts.

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[lace] Pillow stands webpages PS

[lacelady]

A correction.  The table I have been calling 'Rubbermaid' is really Lifetime 
brand.  BiMart has a different brand that's similar but the legs operate 
differently.  My friends tell me that the table available at Fred Meyer (in 
USA) is better than the one at BiMart.

You can see the Personal Table from Lifetime at 
http://www.lifetime.com/tableschairs/personal-tables/

The legs adjust to four levels, and are offset to the back part of the table to 
allow room for knees.  The other brands aren't made that way.  It's the smaller 
one we use, 26" x 18".

Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

[Clay Blackwell]

The tablemate is a wonderful table to travel with.  But if you're 
flying, be sure to get the small one.  There is a larger one, but it 
weighs more and may not fit in your suitcase.  I've bought several of 
them while they were on sale a various times, and have enough to lend to 
other lacemakers when they come to my house to make lace!


Clay

On 3/13/2012 1:46 PM, bev walker wrote:

Hello Katelyn and everyone

There are some really nice purpose built lace tables out there, the
Tablemate folding table is popular too. I have space, and a room with good
light for lace etc. (there is lots of 'etc.'). I use a plain office table
where I can spread out all my lace gear. I find that a small table is too
confining. I can shut the door on the lace project ready to come back to,
without having to put away and take out again later.

You will probably get lots of different answers :)


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[lace] pillow stands

[Lorelei Halley]

Katelyn
I have a pillow stand that I bought from Lacis many years ago, but rarely use
it.

I have found that a typing table is exactly the right height for a pillow
stand.  The rolled up towel sounds like a good idea.

Another thing that works for me is to use a standard table (I have a very
large worktable) but pair it with a chair that allows you to adjust the height
of the seat -- a secretary's chair.  I can then raise the chair seat to get
the distance between it and the table top right for my hands.

When I first started lacemaking I used a rather odd setup.  I made a board
about a yard long (1 m) and nailed a strip about 2 inches high onto it, about
5 inches from one end.  Then I leaned the far end on the edge of the table and
the end with the strip on my lap.  The pillow lay on the board with the strip
to stop it sliding all the way against my stomach.  This gave me a slope to
the pillow, and I could adjust the degree of slope by moving my chair closer
or farther from the table.
|_  It is another setup that I haven't used recently.

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

[lacelady]

I've been through a variety of stands through the years. It is most important 
that the chair to table height fits yourself.  Propping the pillow on something 
and having it rest on your lap is one way to get the working surface at a 
usable height. The shoulders should be relaxed, upper arms hanging down, and 
elbows bent about 90 degrees.  It's like the recommended working height and 
posture  for typing.  

When I first started, my teacher suggested using a TV Tray.  It was lower than 
the normal table, and would fold up for transport if needed.  That works fine 
with some chairs, but is too tall for other chairs.  I then got an adjustable 
folding stand from  Kenn Van Dieren.  That worked fine until I went to IOLI 
conference and needed to be able to put it in a suitcase.  I then got one made 
that was three inches shorter so it fit my largest suitcase. But being shorter, 
it's comfortable only with short chairs.  There are several different stands 
around that fold, and are intended for cookie pillows.

Then the adjustable Rubbermaid tables came on the market.  It has been a 
favorite at home since the height can vary with chairs or pillows, and is a bit 
larger surface to hold accessories.  It also folds to take to demos.  The 
Rubbermaid, or similar barnd, table adjusts to four heights, and is flat. 
There's another adjustable table with "L" shaped legs that has to be carefully 
checked out.  I got one that can't be adjusted flat.  It was an imitation of 
the original table and, though cheap, was a bad buy.  Buy from a reputable 
company and watch the bargains carefully.

The ultimate in a table that's easy to transport to classes, meetings, demos, 
etc., is the Instand Portable Computer table.  (No connection to the company, 
just a satisfied customer.)  It comes in two sizes.  It has a flat tray top, 
and a set of folding legs that come in a bag about 3 x 2 x 12.  It doesn't take 
much room in a bag or suitcase, quick to set up and take down, has a non-skid 
top so the pillow doesn't slide off, and can be set up on a slant if desired. 
It is expensive so cost must be considered.

For practical use, I like the Rubbermaid variety best.  For travel, I like the 
Instand.

For cost, the plastic tables would be least expensive (under $20) with folding 
wooden stands next (under $100) and the Instand most expensive ($120+).  Of 
course, if you want to go really deluxe, I've seen fine furniture round tables 
with adjustable height and ability to slant.  

There could be other tables around that would also serve the purpose.  I have a 
manicure table that I had shortened 4 inches that is a favorite.  The legs fold 
up for transport but it is heavy.  I only take it when I'm doing multiple days 
of demo (county fair). 

I make most of my lace in the living room while the TV is on.  (I have this odd 
idea that I should spend part of each day in the same room with DH.)  My table 
is designated to whatever project I'm doing that day, usually lace, and not 
used by DH for anything.

Use whatever works for you, and expect to try different methods with different 
pillows or projects.  I have even worked lace in a recliner chair with a small 
cushion propping up the far side of my pillow.  Doesn't work with all projects 
but it does with some.

Alice in Oregon... hoping to stay home on this wet, snowy, windy day.


- Original Message -
From: "Katelyn Schreyer" 
I am wondering what everyone is using as a pillow stand for a cookie
pillow. Do you have a freestanding prop only used for your pillow, or do
you make all your lace with the pillow propped up on the kitchen table?

If you have a prop for use on a table, did you make it or buy it?

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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

[bmccs...@gmail.com]

I have two pillow tables and one collapses much better than the other.  For the 
collapsable one, it's something like a snare drum stand, but made of wood.  The 
other stand is more like a table, round top that slants.  Can send photos this 
evening is needed.
Beth McCasland
Seattle

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Beth
Sent from this little messenger

--Original Message--
From: Katelyn Schreyer 
To: 
Date: Tue, Mar 13, 12:50 PM -0400
Subject: [lace] Pillow stands

Hello everyone,

I am wondering what everyone is using as a pillow stand for a cookie
pillow. Do you have a freestanding prop only used for your pillow, or do
you make all your lace with the pillow propped up on the kitchen table?

If you have a prop for use on a table, did you make it or buy it?

At my apartment we were really wanting for space, so my pillow rested on my
lap when in use, and I would roll up a t-shirt under the pillow to give it
a little slant. Now that we are in a house I suddenly have much more space,
and could set up on a small table or get a full stand. What do you
reccomend?

Katelyn Schreyer
krschre...@gmail.com

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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

[bev walker]

Hello Katelyn and everyone

There are some really nice purpose built lace tables out there, the
Tablemate folding table is popular too. I have space, and a room with good
light for lace etc. (there is lots of 'etc.'). I use a plain office table
where I can spread out all my lace gear. I find that a small table is too
confining. I can shut the door on the lace project ready to come back to,
without having to put away and take out again later.

You will probably get lots of different answers :)

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Katelyn Schreyer wrote:

>
> a little slant. Now that we are in a house I suddenly have much more space,
> and could set up on a small table or get a full stand. What do you
> reccomend?
>
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Pillow stands

[Katelyn Schreyer]

Hello everyone,

I am wondering what everyone is using as a pillow stand for a cookie
pillow. Do you have a freestanding prop only used for your pillow, or do
you make all your lace with the pillow propped up on the kitchen table?

If you have a prop for use on a table, did you make it or buy it?

At my apartment we were really wanting for space, so my pillow rested on my
lap when in use, and I would roll up a t-shirt under the pillow to give it
a little slant. Now that we are in a house I suddenly have much more space,
and could set up on a small table or get a full stand. What do you
reccomend?

Katelyn Schreyer
krschre...@gmail.com

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Re: [lace] Pillow stands

[Alice Howell]

Yes, your cat would dump your pillow off a table that sizemine did.  I was 
using a TV tray table, about the same size as a Tablemate and the pillow 
extended beyond the table.  My cat tried to use it as a stepping stone to the 
cat tower.  He got yelled at, but my pillow was still upside down.   Since you 
have such a critter around, you might want to look for a slightly larger table 
that can support the whole pillow (and the cat also, if necessary.)

Generally, the Tablemates are considered good -- sturdy enough for a lace 
pillow.   It's nice for transporting because it folds up and is not really 
heavy.   Be sure it's a real Tablemate, though.  There are some knockoff tables 
that aren't as good.  I got caught with one of those.  The tabletop does not 
fasten so it's flat.  There's always a slant so things slide off.  And it's 
harder to adjust the legs.  You want to be able to adjust the table without six 
tools and a strongman.

The lacemakers here like the adjustable table made by Rubbermaid or Lifetime 
with a table size about 20 x 30..  It adjusts to four different heights, and is 
very sturdy.  My cat leaps on and off it without any problem.  It's great for 
local demos but would not travel on a plane to a conference.  It doesn't fold 
up as small as a Tablemate and would not fit in a suitcase.

Consider carefully just how you would use the table. where and when.  Then get 
the table that best suits your own purposes.

Alice in Oregon




- Original Message 
From: Beth Marshall 
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:39:29 AM
Subject: [lace] Pillow stands (was: larger pillows)

Tamara's reference to the Table-mate reminds me of a question I'd been meaning 
to ask:

The Table-mate available on Amazon UK has a usable surface 22" wde by 16.75" 
deep, so my 18"/20"/22" pillows would overhang the back of the table.
Given that once bobbins are hung in the weight of the pillow is more at the 
front of the pillow than the back, would one of these tables be stable with a 
large pillow on? Has anyone tried one and found out?

(And what might happen when my fairly heavy young cat jumps onto the back of 
the pillow to "help"? Though ending up on the floor under a fairly heavy 
pillow a couple of times should cure even Silly Sid of leaping before he 
looks!)

Beth
Cheshire, UK

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[lace] Pillow stands (was: larger pillows)

[Beth Marshall]

Tamara's reference to the Table-mate reminds me of a question I'd been meaning 
to ask:

The Table-mate available on Amazon UK has a usable surface 22" wde by 16.75" 
deep, so my 18"/20"/22" pillows would overhang the back of the table.
Given that once bobbins are hung in the weight of the pillow is more at the 
front of the pillow than the back, would one of these tables be stable with a 
large pillow on? Has anyone tried one and found out?

(And what might happen when my fairly heavy young cat jumps onto the back of 
the pillow to "help"? Though ending up on the floor under a fairly heavy 
pillow a couple of times should cure even Silly Sid of leaping before he 
looks!)

Beth
Cheshire, UK


I am short, too -- 5'2" -- but love big pillows because of all that 
room to spread the bobbins (even 12 pairs can use some room to breathe 
). What I've learnt is that, if the pillow sits really low, I can 
bend over it at the hips, rather than at the waist, which gives me an 
extra 3-4" of reach. This has another advantage as well -- my arms 
don't get as tired working, because they're fairly close to my lap (the 
most restful position), instead of being raised.

But, of course, that means having the pillow sitting on an adjustable 
stand, not at a standard height table. It's one of the resaons that I'm 
reluctant to go to workshops which are beyond a sensible driving range 
(8-10hrs maximum); my large Table-mate would not travel well on a plane 
(and neither would a large pillow, any more)

Tamara P Duvall   

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Re: [lace] pillow stands

[Steph Peters]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:13:17 +1000, Dona wrote:
>I have some questions regarding pillow stands.  Not the individual kind but
>the shelf style ones that will hold multiple pillows so that they are stacked
>one above the other but not on top of each other. 

My pillows are in a specially constructed cupboard where they are on shelves
one above each other.  My pillows have rings for a stand on the bottom.
Putting the pillow flat on a shelf would result in only the ring being on
the shelf, making the pillow subject to wobbling.  So there is a U shape cut
out of the corner of each shelf, where I can slide the ring in, so that the
pillow itself sits on the shelf.  This works well for me.
--
Go into the street and give one man a lecture on morality and another 
a dollar, and see which will respect you most. - Samuel Johnson
Steph Peters  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [lace] pillow stands

[Barb ETx]

See this list is made up of the  nicest people...we are so lucky,
BarbE

snip
From: kenn van dieren
 I have made a
number of these and have learned a few tricks along the way.  I would be
willing to pass those on to your carpenter if you would like.

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Re: [lace] pillow stands

[kenn van dieren]

You can find examples at www.bobbinmaker.com/restarea.html  I have made a
number of these and have learned a few tricks along the way.  I would be
willing to pass those on to your carpenter if you would like.

**
Bobbins by Van-Dieren
Kenn Van-Dieren
2304 Clifford Avenue
Rochester, Ny 14609
Tel: 585.654.5711
Cell: 585.750.8842
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From: "Paul and Dona Bushong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: [lace] pillow stands


> I have some questions regarding pillow stands.  Not the individual kind
but
> the shelf style ones that will hold multiple pillows so that they are
stacked
> one above the other but not on top of each other.  Hopefully that's clear.
> Does anyone know if there are there pictures of these anywhere on the
> internet?  I have the chance to have one of these made for me but along
with
> my drawings the person would also like to see an example of one already
made.
> Also if anyone has one of these, can you tell me if there is anything
about
> yours that you do not like and would change or if there is anything that
made
> it particularly attractive over another?  I think I have in my mind what I
> want but I want to make sure that it's not "tippy" and that I've not
missed
> something obvious before the cutting begins.
> Thanks,
> Dona in Asan, Guam where the winter rains have gone away for the day and
we
> have a nice warm breeze blowing the windchimes.
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Re: [lace] pillow stands

[Laceandbits]

I have got the ordinary 'shelf' type fitments that consist of two metal
strips with slots in screwed to the wall.  The triangular brackets that the
shelf
itself fits on are available in lots of sizes (for different shelf widths) and
I use those for the pillows - without a shelf first.  The brackets slot easily
into the strips and can be altered to different spacings to suit different
pillow combinations.

They are fitted from the top of a set of drawers to the ceiling so they are
in what would otherwise be wasted space.  Even my biggest pillow (24") sits
securely at the top on 15" brackets; because it's close to the ceiling it
can't
tip off.

And I have bought all of them at carboot sales so the total investment to
store about 10 pillows was in the region of £5.

Jacquie

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[lace] pillow stands

[Paul and Dona Bushong]

I have some questions regarding pillow stands.  Not the individual kind but
the shelf style ones that will hold multiple pillows so that they are stacked
one above the other but not on top of each other.  Hopefully that's clear.
Does anyone know if there are there pictures of these anywhere on the
internet?  I have the chance to have one of these made for me but along with
my drawings the person would also like to see an example of one already made.
Also if anyone has one of these, can you tell me if there is anything about
yours that you do not like and would change or if there is anything that made
it particularly attractive over another?  I think I have in my mind what I
want but I want to make sure that it's not "tippy" and that I've not missed
something obvious before the cutting begins.
Thanks,
Dona in Asan, Guam where the winter rains have gone away for the day and we
have a nice warm breeze blowing the windchimes.

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