Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

VBG!

Yes, I looked at my copy and found it interesting for a couple of reasons.

First, since color has been introduced in printing, authors usually present a 
section in the beginning to define their use of color.  This was especially 
important in the early color days when different authors chose different color 
schemes!  So, it is just "best practice" to define the colors you use in this 
project you're undertaking!

Second, as Ulrike is an exemplary and prolific author, she had followed best 
practice to present her color code.  I noted that she does not refer to it as 
ICC, or as BCC, for that matter.  It is simply the colors she uses.  It makes 
sense that she is consistent with BCC, but she has also added a few things 
which are not generally part of Belgian laces, such as Honeycomb as well as 
yellow for special actions.  

So...  You have it on good authority if you adopt Ulrike's code!

Clay


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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes I wish I would just take a few extra minutes before asking for help 
>  
> 
> I am sorry everyone, I just had a brain wave and checked my lace library for 
> the Torchon: Discover, Explore, Master set of books by Ulrike Voelcher and 
> there was just what I was asking about.
> 

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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

There are numerous ways that color codes have been developed.  It is my 
understanding that the use of color in diagrams is fairly "modern", and related 
to advances in the printing industry which made color affordable.

However, different designers and different styles of lace used different 
"rules", so it is imperative to refer to the designer's notes.  The Belgian 
Color Code was one of the first to be "standardized".  As I said in a previous 
reply, I am not sure how the ICC and the BCC compare.

Clay


> Looking at Lorelei's charts, specifically this one
> http://www.lynxlace.com/images-h-det-diag/colorcode.JPG
> yes plaits are blue.
> But in "Point Ground Lace, A Comparative Study", plaits are yellow, as are
> gimp lines and a pair involving one thick and one thin thread.
> In this book of many kinds of point ground lace which tend to have picot
> edges on the headside, picots are shown as a dot within a circle in
> whatever colour representing the stitch in the headside nearest the picot.
> 
> In my Cluny book, and in my Binche diagrams, extra twists are shown as one
> short red stroke across the thread for each extra twist.
> Leaf-tallies are shown in yellow in my Cluny book (for one thread weaving =
> yellow). I have a Binche diagram with square tallies shown in black.
> Both square and leaf tallies have characteristic shapes, so maybe their
> specific colour isn't that important vs. ground areas that need
> clarification?

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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Jenny,

The Binche pattern I am just finishing shows tallies in black, in the shape 
they are meant to be (ie., leaf, square, rectangular) and plaits are shown the 
same way, as a heavy black line.  Twists are indicated by strokes across the 
line... One stroke indicates one twist, two strokes indicates two twists, etc.  
Picots are indicated by a circle around the pinhole.  This is the Belgian Color 
Code, and I'm not certain that this is the same as ICC or not.  

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA



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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> I am trying to convert some of my free patterns to the ICC and am working on
> Ruth right now, but am not sure how tallies, plaits (blue?) and leaves are
> represented - for that matter what colour is used for picot? How does extra
> twists get shown?
> 

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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Bev Walker]

Hello Jenny, and everyone

Looking at Lorelei's charts, specifically this one
http://www.lynxlace.com/images-h-det-diag/colorcode.JPG
yes plaits are blue.
But in "Point Ground Lace, A Comparative Study", plaits are yellow, as are
gimp lines and a pair involving one thick and one thin thread.
In this book of many kinds of point ground lace which tend to have picot
edges on the headside, picots are shown as a dot within a circle in
whatever colour representing the stitch in the headside nearest the picot.

In my Cluny book, and in my Binche diagrams, extra twists are shown as one
short red stroke across the thread for each extra twist.
Leaf-tallies are shown in yellow in my Cluny book (for one thread weaving =
yellow). I have a Binche diagram with square tallies shown in black.
Both square and leaf tallies have characteristic shapes, so maybe their
specific colour isn't that important vs. ground areas that need
clarification?

Hope this helps.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Jenny Brandis  wrote:

>
> I am trying to convert some of my free patterns to the ICC and am working
> on
> Ruth right now, but am not sure how tallies, plaits (blue?) and leaves are
> represented - for that matter what colour is used for picot? How does extra
> twists get shown?
>
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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RE: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Jenny Brandis]

Sometimes I wish I would just take a few extra minutes before asking for help  

I am sorry everyone, I just had a brain wave and checked my lace library for 
the Torchon: Discover, Explore, Master set of books by Ulrike Voelcher and 
there was just what I was asking about.

Hugs
Jenny B

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Subject: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

Hi everyone

 

I am trying to convert some of my free patterns to the ICC and am working on 
Ruth right now, but am not sure how tallies, plaits (blue?) and leaves are 
represented - for that matter what colour is used for picot? How does extra 
twists get shown?

 

I have looked at Lorelei's
http://www.lynxlace.com/learningbobbinlace-basics.html for help as most if not 
all of the books I have are Torchon and pre ICC so any help would be 
appreciated. Once I get the working diagrams sorted I will repost the patterns.

 

Lorelei I really like that you have gone that extra step with yours and 
included multiple working diagrams to show that the same pattern can be varied. 
So much WORK! It is taking me hours to do just one pattern so I do appreciate 
your efforts that you went to with the site. It is a wonderful source of lace 
knowledge.

 

Regards

Jenny Brandis

 

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www.brandis.com.au    online since 1995

 

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parents generation invented it!!

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