Re: [lace] Publishing lace books
Dear Lace Friends, I would not reopen this matter, but have been getting private letters about it. Very obviously, what was intended as a compliment to Australian lacemakers was misunderstood by Ruth She and I have corresponded privately and cleared the air. There was nothing about race in my letter. It was about nationalities helping each other. It was about how lacemakers feel isolated from other lacemakers. The original correspondence was from Peg in Cleveland Ohio USA. Most of the outpouring of responses came from people living in Australia. Really very nice. I will try to be clearer when complimenting others in the future. Kind regards, Jeri Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 6/18/2011 5:18:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thelacema...@optusnet.com.au writes: I may live in Australia, but I am *not* Australian. And country of origin doesn't come into it - I reply to any person, regardless of their race, if I think I can help with their query. Ruth - Beginning of letter from Jeri to Peg:and _lace@arachne.com_ (mailto:lace@arachne.com) on June 18, 2011 at 3:46 p.m. Dear Peg, (In Cleveland Ohio USA) The Australians have replied to an American, which was quite a surprise. Many of them are *really isolated*. We write about lace book availability and teachers often on Arachne. Some authors of books published in fairly recent years have given Tess permission to scan books into _http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html_ (http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html) In addition, books that are out-of-copyright can be found at this free University of Arizona site. A huge amount of work has gone into making this available to lacemakers, and in my travels I have met lacemakers all over the world who use it! You can also go to _www.Lacefairy.com_ (http://www.lacefairy.com/) - a virtual lace museum, and the first developed for Americans who think they are all alone in the process of wanting to know more about lace. The Lacemakers of Maine are behind these two (above) resources, and up to now we have not had more than 8-10 members at any one time. We know what it is like to be in a remote location, away from museums and lace resources, and have tried to fill information gaps for everyone. Yes! Everyone! All over the world! Letter cut at this point -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Publishing lace books
Dear Peg, The Australians have replied to an American, which was quite a surprise. Many of them are *really isolated*. We write about lace book availability and teachers often on Arachne. If you un-subscribed from Arachne, is it our fault? Some authors of books published in fairly recent years have given Tess permission to scan books into _http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html_ (http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html) In addition, books that are out-of-copyright can be found at this free University of Arizona site. A huge amount of work has gone into making this available to lacemakers, and in my travels I have met lacemakers all over the world who use it! You can also go to _www.Lacefairy.com_ (http://www.Lacefairy.com) - a virtual lace museum, and the first developed for Americans who think they are all alone in the process of wanting to know more about lace. The Lacemakers of Maine are behind these two (above) resources, and up to now we have not had more than 8-10 members at any one time. We know what it is like to be in a remote location, away from museums and lace resources, and have tried to fill information gaps for everyone. Yes! Everyone! All over the world! A third option is fairly-priced lace books/booklets published by The Lace Guild, England (a good cause). These are written by well-known lace teachers. Check out their instruction books from the International Old Lacers library, which has books that are current (in copyright) -- not just out-of-print (as you said in your letter), and then order from lace specialist book sellers in the U.S. (in your case) if they are something you want to own. You can read about them at _http://www.laceguild.org_ (http://www.laceguild.org) A fourth is local library sales of old books that have not been checked out for a long time. Get acquainted with your local librarian! At the least, check out lace books at regular intervals, so they won't be de-accessioned! You live in the Cleveland area. Last time I looked, Ohio had 6 Chartered Lace Guilds connected to IOLI. And there may be more groups that are not Chartered. Go to IOLI website for more information about local lace groups. They often have local lace libraries from which their members may borrow. Select officers, then your regional representative; write to her. _www.internationaloldlacers.org_ (http://www.internationaloldlacers.org) We are not supposed to be too commercial on Arachne. Since you are a member of IOLI, you see the American Lace Supplier ads in the quarterly bulletins. Follow up by looking at web sites given in ads in lace publications. Lace books may be over-priced because they are costly for individuals to produce. Often the authors have to incur travel expenses far beyond what you can imagine. They may have spent years learning what they are finally sharing in book form. Learning is very expensive. Also, they need considerable resources at their fingertips (costly). Then, when their books are published, it is often they who put up the money! It is a huge risk for all our lovely authors and teachers. Please bear this in mind. Buy when a book is new, and you will not pay excessively for a in-demand out-of-print book. Stay subscribed to Arachne, and you will learn much. Have fun, Jeri Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center -- In a message dated 6/17/2011 6:26:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wytchy...@sbcglobal.net writes: The Arachne archive has been an amazing treasure trove of lacemaking information for me. I was so glad to see that the list is still active. I subscribed last week and already picked up a few good tips One of my biggest frustrations in lacemaking is the availability of reasonably priced books...as in under or around $20. Lace books are printed in short runs and sell out quickly. When they show up on sites like Alibris, Half.com or Amazon, they're usually at least 2 to 3 times the cover price. Some are just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a typo. I borrow a lot of out of print books from the IOLI Library, but I feel funny copying patterns out of them. I don't like to infringe on copyrights, but I also don't have a lot of money to spend on overpriced second hand books. And I would like to see the authors get the money for the books, not the second hand owners. I wish more of the authors of lace books would consider, once the first run of the book goes out of print, selling them in either a .pdf format or through one of the print-on-demand sites like Lulu.com. BTW, Lulu currently has 7 bobbin lace titles available and 19 lacemaking titles. Peg - To unsubscribe sen
RE: [lace] Publishing lace books
Dear Peg, Many lace books are also available at reasonable prices in online bookshops - for example www.abebooks.com Best Wishes Barbara -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Witchy Woman Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:24 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Publishing lace books The Arachne archive has been an amazing treasure trove of lacemaking information for me. I was so glad to see that the list is still active. I subscribed last week and already picked up a few good tips. I live in Fairview Park, Ohio...a suburb of Cleveland...and have been making lace since the mid-90's. The first time I saw bobbin lace was at a Crafts from Around the World fair at the May Company in Cleveland in the mid-70's. A woman named Deb Hietarinta was demonstrating it. Things didn't work out at the time to learn (she moved out of state), but almost 20 years later I was finally able to take lessons. While the kids were growing up lacemaking fell by the wayside, but 3 years ago I took it up again. It's a testament to my teacher, Lynn Swedenborg, that I remembered so much. One of my biggest frustrations in lacemaking is the availability of reasonably priced books...as in under or around $20. Lace books are printed in short runs and sell out quickly. When they show up on sites like Alibris, Half.com or Amazon, they're usually at least 2 to 3 times the cover price. Some are just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a typo. I borrow a lot of out of print books from the IOLI Library, but I feel funny copying patterns out of them. I don't like to infringe on copyrights, but I also don't have a lot of money to spend on overpriced second hand books. And I would like to see the authors get the money for the books, not the second hand owners. I wish more of the authors of lace books would consider, once the first run of the book goes out of print, selling them in either a .pdf format or through one of the print-on-demand sites like Lulu.com. BTW, Lulu currently has 7 bobbin lace titles available and 19 lacemaking titles. I look forward to reading the digest every day. Can't wait to read more. Thanks! Peg ~~~ G: What is it you want? D: Freedom... to want nothing... to expect nothing... to depend on nothing. from THE FOUNTAINHEAD by Ayn Rand - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Publishing lace books
I have recently bought a number of out of print Lace books through the Lace Guild in the UK, they have second hand books with a catalogue online (ie you can download it from their web page). The prices including postage to Australia was quite reasonable and the service was super excellent. Also I have bought other second hand books from the NSW Branch of the Australian Lace Guild (they run a trading table at Lace days where members recycle their lace equipment and books) and a few books from the estates of deceased lacemakers whose families sell the books through the group to which the lacemaker belonged. I have also found the odd lace book in second hand book shops. I must admit that I never go past a second hand book shop without going in. All of these second hand books have been in excellent condition in some cases I doubt if they were ever used. Why don't you try your local lacemakers groups and IOLI to see if they sell second hand books. Anna in Sydney where the sun is now shining On 18/06/11 8:24 AM, Witchy Woman wrote: The Arachne archive has been an amazing treasure trove of lacemaking information for me. I was so glad to see that the list is still active. I subscribed last week and already picked up a few good tips. I live in Fairview Park, Ohio...a suburb of Cleveland...and have been making lace since the mid-90's. The first time I saw bobbin lace was at a Crafts from Around the World fair at the May Company in Cleveland in the mid-70's. A woman named Deb Hietarinta was demonstrating it. Things didn't work out at the time to learn (she moved out of state), but almost 20 years later I was finally able to take lessons. While the kids were growing up lacemaking fell by the wayside, but 3 years ago I took it up again. It's a testament to my teacher, Lynn Swedenborg, that I remembered so much. One of my biggest frustrations in lacemaking is the availability of reasonably priced books...as in under or around $20. Lace books are printed in short runs and sell out quickly. When they show up on sites like Alibris, Half.com or Amazon, they're usually at least 2 to 3 times the cover price. Some are just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a typo. I borrow a lot of out of print books from the IOLI Library, but I feel funny copying patterns out of them. I don't like to infringe on copyrights, but I also don't have a lot of money to spend on overpriced second hand books. And I would like to see the authors get the money for the books, not the second hand owners. I wish more of the authors of lace books would consider, once the first run of the book goes out of print, selling them in either a .pdf format or through one of the print-on-demand sites like Lulu.com. BTW, Lulu currently has 7 bobbin lace titles available and 19 lacemaking titles. I look forward to reading the digest every day. Can't wait to read more. Thanks! Peg ~~~ G: What is it you want? D: Freedom... to want nothing... to expect nothing... to depend on nothing. from THE FOUNTAINHEAD by Ayn Rand - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Publishing lace books
Welcome to Arachne, Peg. I just don't understand those hundreds of dollars prices for books - especially Rosemary's, which is still available direct from the author at http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/index.html. I love that book - it's what I learnt from. No chance of the luxury of a teacher in a small town like ours, although now I teach others from that same book. I keep watch on eBay for cheaper books, and have scored some great bargains. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary > Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a > typo. > > Peg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Publishing lace books
Peg, I do know that supplies of Rosemary Shepherd's book are running low - but if you go to www.lacedaisypress.com.au you can contact Rosemary direct and see if she still has copies - cost, from memory, is about $30 Australian. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Witchy Woman Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:24 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Publishing lace books One of my biggest frustrations in lacemaking is the availability of reasonably priced books...as in under or around $20. Lace books are printed in short runs and sell out quickly. When they show up on sites like Alibris, Half.com or Amazon, they're usually at least 2 to 3 times the cover price. Some are just plain outrageous...i.e. today, Amazon.com has a copy of Rosemary Shepherd's INTRODUCTION TO BOBBIN LACE MAKING for $372.33...no, that's not a typo. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
