Re: [lace] Braid lace/tape lace

2004-05-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Jacquie,
Remember that Branscombe was made at first with bobbin made tape, which 
was then sewn down and filled with needle fillings. Quicker to make 
than the complex honiton motifs.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 11 May 2004, at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am in the middle of writing a short explanation of what braid lace 
is.

In the process I am trying to add a brief translation between US and
English language (in the same way as I do for cloth stitch -ctc- and 
whole stitch -
either ctc or ctct depending on where you are/been taught by) so 
people can be
aware that they have to be conscious of which language they are 
reading.

I was always been taught that laces such as Russian and Milanese are 
braid
laces and some of the fillings are done with plaits.  Tape lace is a 
machine
made tape tacked onto the pattern and secured with sewing and needle 
made
fillings.

However, since I have been exposed to American terminology on Arachne 
I have
been very aware that as you refer to plaits (in lace and hair) as 
braids, it
is necessary that you refer to the hand made edges as tapes.

So, my question is, what generic term do you normally use to describe 
what I
would think of as a tape lace to make it clear that it is not hand 
made bobbin
lace but a mix of machine tape and needlelace?

Many thanks, Jacquie

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RE: [lace] Braid lace/tape lace

2004-05-11 Thread Panza, Robin
Some of us Yanks learned early-on about Milanese from Read and Kincaid, and
so call that (and Russian) braid lace.  Although it grates on my ear, I've
never heard a decent alternative term to use.

I usually avoid the braid/tape controversy by calling the other kind
Battenberg family or lace made with pre-fab tapes.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

-Original Message-
I was always been taught that laces such as Russian and Milanese are braid
laces and some of the fillings are done with plaits.  Tape lace is a machine
made tape tacked onto the pattern and secured with sewing and needle made
fillings.

However, since I have been exposed to American terminology on Arachne I have
been very aware that as you refer to plaits (in lace and hair) as braids, it
is necessary that you refer to the hand made edges as tapes.

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