Re: [lace] Thread amount per bobbin
Unles it's a tiny bookmark, they probably won't be long enough as an 18" length only gives you 9" per bobbin. At a usage rate of 2 to 3 times the length of the lace, that gives you 3" to 4 1/2" of lace, IF you don't have any workers, and if you work right to the very end of the thread. As Jo said, you can add leashes so you can do this. You'd get more options if you start and end with a tassel, as then you can have a bobbin per thread, and will only 'waste' say 4" for the starting tassel and anchoring the threads. You'd have enough thread for 18 pairs wound in that way. Why don't you work a simple all ground book mark, with a point and a tassel top and bottom. That way you'd know how far the thread will go. Once you know that, you can design a bookmark with spiders, grounds, rose grounds etc, but avoid designs with cloth stitch areas. Narrow half stitch trails would probably be OK, so long as you DON'T do an extra twist as you go around the pin, as then you'll use a different worker every row. What I am more worried about though is if this is a silky rayon thread, it is often difficult to get it to tie a firm knot. This would make it difficult to finish off the tassel - you may find you need to use a matching cotton thread to do the final knot around, and even then you may find that the ends slip. I used a rayon thread of about this thickness as a gimp with cotton as the main thread and the ends just kept slipping out of place. So do experiment before you spend the time doing lace. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Thread amount per bobbin
Hi Mark and everyone What the weaver gave you are 'thrums' (= end waste on the weaving loom) and the fiber is tencel. Yes threads vary in size system according to content and purpose. If your lengths compare to the pearl cotton 12, that is quite fine for weaving! and coarse for bobbin lace :p This is a good question, and I don't have a pat answer, it just depends on the lace design. For passives, you have a measured amount, for weaver/worker pairs, 'lots'. However, here are some tips that will help you. To get the most use out of your 18" lengths, use waste thread at either end of each strand. One waste-end is the leader around the bobbin, the other waste end is useful at the start, as a handle for the lace thread during setup. Further hints below, you might not need to do this if you know the lengths of the pathways. Plan on a fringe at either end, then you won't have to deal with knots, and the piece will look balanced. A straight-across start would be my suggestion, rather than a pointy one, or, using waste thread in the same colour tone and size as your feature thread, start the pattern from a bundle at the point. The knotted section can be wrapped as for a tassle, later. End the same, with a tassel. If you have time, make the pattern in some other thread of the same lengths, to find out how far the 18 inches will go; if you need to be really miserly at the beginning or not. A quicker way: With colour pencils on a copy of the pricking, trace a few of the thread paths, and measure the colour pencil line. anyway, hope this helps. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Mark Myers wrote: > > To get to my question, how would I know that these 18 inch lengths will be > enough thread to finish a fairly good length of this pattern. > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Thread amount per bobbin
Mark, The question is answered before in general. Search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/ You might try to study how the threads run through a design with my program on http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/ but that might still be too elaborate and it still requires a learning curve. It might be too short for a runner. Rather than knotting, you could try to plan working with double threads to lengthen. Work double through one or two tctct's and it will hold. The twists are the most important, both to hide working temporarily with double threads and to keep them firm in place. You could also attach extra lengths to the threads that is just used to wind on the bobbins. In my experience: use thread with the same twist, others seem not to mind. Jo > I have a question about thread amounts per bobbin, when the > directions donĀ¹t give that information. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com