Re: [lace] warding off arthritis
Sorry Elizabeth, I sent this email direct to you as opposed to the 'list". One of my bobbin resource people (you know I am not a lace maker and have to rely on others for practical advice) Showed me that she certainly did not handle the leopard bobbins in any way that would involve her touching the protruding lumps pewter. Perhaps others handle their bobbins differently. I love tradition and old wives tales, but you cant really think that touching pewter when lace making will help your arthritis! Having said that, if you thinks it helps, then that is fine by me:) - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" To: "Arachne" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: [lace] warding off arthritis " In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on the pillow, to ward off arthritis." Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!! Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do work! :)) With arthritic fingers one is happy to try Anything!! (I know, and can sympathise with you.) Bobbin lace is just about the only handcraft that suits crippled hands. A now gone friend had the most terribley crippled hands due to arthritis, and had to give up all her crafts - till she discovered bobbin lacemaking. Her DH made her some thick bobbins that she could manage, and she made a Huge banquet table-sized tablecloth edge - 6 - 8 inches wide, - and she said it saved her sanity!! Her daughter had to mount the lace on the cloth, but lacemaking was the only thing she could do - with thicker threads, of course. I have a couple of prs of her bobbins, now - a group of us were given them after she passed away, and I use them for gimps. They are perfect, and a nice reminder of a lovely lady. So if your hands are a problem, - keep making lace. It really is good for you! Regards from Liz in Melbourne lizl...@bigpond.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 341 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3998 (20090409) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] warding off arthritis
My feelings about this are that yes working lace with arthritis does work (up to a point) no huge weights pulling on your hands and for us craft lacemakers we can work at our own speed. the movements do prevent my hands and fingers getting too painful and stiff, so great and enjoyable to. People do and did all sorts of things that we may consider wives tales. But if you think it might help you and isn't actually harming you then many people do or did wear copper bracelets or whatever for their comfort. I am keeping on keeping on exercising my fingers working my lace and keeping them young and fit, and enjoying what I do. sue T Sorry Elizabeth, I sent this email direct to you as opposed to the 'list". One of my bobbin resource people (you know I am not a lace maker and have to rely on others for practical advice) Showed me that she certainly did not handle the leopard bobbins in any way that would involve her touching the protruding lumps pewter. Perhaps others handle their bobbins differently. I love tradition and old wives tales, but you cant really think that touching pewter when lace making will help your arthritis! Having said that, if you thinks it helps, then that is fine by me:) " In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on the pillow, to ward off arthritis." Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!! Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do work! :)) With arthritic fingers one is happy to try Anything!! (I her sanity!! Her daughter had to mount the lace on the cloth, but lacemaking was the only thing she could do - with thicker threads, of course. I have a couple of prs of her bobbins, now - a group of us were given them after she passed away, and I use them for gimps. They are perfect, and a nice reminder of a lovely lady. So if your hands are a problem, - keep making lace. It really is good for you! Regards from Liz in Melbourne lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
"FWIW my great uncle swore that the wives tales of wearing copper to ward off arthritis were true once he tried it himself, and always wore a copper bracelet when he was older." Copper 'bracelets' have been used on horses with arthritis, with good results, and as they (the horses) don't respond to the placebo effect, there must be something in it. But they don't make lace either, so this should probably be on chat :-) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
Copper bracelets didn't work for me either. I don't have arthritis, but they are said to cure any body pains as well so I tried one - it just made me so very sleeeppy (more than I usually am)! Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Jean Nathan Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:12 PM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in 1992. Most of the time it's controlled well, with the occasional flare. I swear that the drift of fingers towards the little finger have been suppressed to a great extent by making lace, picking up the bobbins by the spangles and inserting the pins (mostly not straight), and by using a computer keyboard. Just two fingers are drifting. I noticed that the only one of my fingers that has never been swollen is the one with my wedding ring. Gold injections were given as a treatment to some people, so I wondered if a small amount of gold was being absorbed through my skin. My consultant said that the amount absorbed would be so small to have no effect, but I tried wearing gold rings on all my fingers anyway - it didn't work, but I felt it was worth a try. A physiotherapist suggested wearing a copper bangle. I said I thought it was a placebo effect, and didn't really believe it would have any real effect. She said that you have to bear in mind that there are electrical impulses going on all the time inside the body, and it's possible that, if the pathways are slightly out of align, a copper or magnetic bracelet could be enough to realign them and thereby reduce pain if that was the cause. She has a point, but it's never worked for me. Lucie wrote: As rheumatoid arthritis is the result of the immune system attacking joints, I don't really want a supported immune system - I wish it would just stop wrongly trying to fight what it thinks shouldn't be there! As there are over 90 different types of arthritis, what works in controlling pain and swelling for one won't necessarily work for another. We all have to find what works for us. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] warding off arthritis
I love tradition and old wives tales, but you cant really think that touching pewter when lace making will help your arthritis! Don't forget the "placebo effect" (psychosomatic cures, mind over matter, the power of belief, etc.). It is well documented that belief in a treatment can cure some people. In war, sometimes doctors had to resort to saline solution when they ran out of morphine, and it worked on many people. That's why drug trials have to include a group of people taking sugar pills, and compare the cure rate of their drug to the cure rate of something useless (as well as the cure rate of other treatments). There is always a certain number of people who are cured because they believe that what they are taking/doing will cure them, not to mention the people who are cured because they were going to heal whether they had treatment or not. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Warding off arthritis
Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of disability??? To suggest such a thing is unfair. I`m with Jean on this. Daphne Norfolk England > From: j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk > To: lace@arachne.com > Subject: [lace] Warding off arthritis > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:15:07 +0100 > > Liz wrote: > > < She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate > No-No!!)> > > If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at > all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no > intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. > There are no lace police. > > Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos Free. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding off arthritis
I often pick up the bobbins by the spangle, as I find it a lot easier. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Daphne Martin wrote: Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of disability??? To suggest such a thing is unfair. I`m with Jean on this. Daphne Norfolk England From: j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Warding off arthritis Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:15:07 +0100 Liz wrote: < She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!)> If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining crafts I can still do. There are no lace police. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis
It's very interesting to read what experience you made and heard about metall and arthritis. Here in Germany they don't believe in copper but in magnetism. And there excist extremly expensive methods to get such radition treatment, nine times for 980 Euro only for the hands. My doctor told me, that there are people it helps and other them doesn't help it. One thing is true if any joints are thick and deformed nothing can made them again normal. Only against the pain can doctors try to help and moving the joins steadily - making lace for example. With you less pain over Easter and later on Ilske in still sunny and warm Hamburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
