[lace-chat] Re: Christmas traditions

2003-12-14 Thread Jean Nathan
 Well, it's the same thing every year. Dad comes home from the office.
 We all get into the Rolls Royce, and we drive to his toy factory. When
 we get inside we look at all the empty shelves and we sing, What a
 friend we have in Jesus. Then we all go to the Bahamas.

That was doing the rounds in my childhood in the east end of London, but was
consigned to the trash can many years ago as totally non PC. I've seen it in
emails to DH a couple of times recently though.

Tamara wrote:

Um... Actually... You got your seasons mixed up a bit... *Easter*, not
Christmas, marks the open season for Jew-hunting.

I always understood it was an expression of resentment of the Jewish
immigrant business community in Stepney (east London) and their aptitude for
business which was lacking (often through lack of opportunity) in the
resident poor population. Christmas was chosen as an example of the time
when toy factories (assumed, rightly or wrongly, to be run by Jews) did most
of their business making them rich and keeping the locals poor.

I expect the subjects of the resentment have varied over the years because
that run-down area of London was first populated by Huguenots, who moved out
as they became more affluent, then by Jews, and now by Muslims. The Catholic
churches were sold and became synagogues - around 40 in my childhood. Most
of those have now been sold to becomes mosques.

I used to go there a lot when I lived in London and Essex because the
wholesalers of textiles, yarns and haberdashery sold relatively small
quantities to anyone for cash without proof that you were in business. Last
time I went (15-20 years ago) most of the wholesalers had gone, and had been
replaced by clothing sweatshops. Got no idea what type of businesses are
there now.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Thank you S.Pal

2003-12-14 Thread lacemaker
I got a nice packages from my S.Pal.Thank you for the lovely chocolates,
my favourites. The neat bobbins are really different. And cute frog
topped pen, great fun. I collect frogs. The card was beautiful with a
bobbin lace tree. And last there was a snowman ornament.
Thank you so much 
Happy Christmas to you
Love Daphne

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[lace-chat] to my secret pal

2003-12-14 Thread Rita Lloyd
Hello Secret Pal:
 
I received your gift yesterday and was delighted with what I found.
 
My very favorite chocolate - bitter dark chocolate.  It is delicious!  
 
I also love the lace postcard.  Is it one of your pieces?
 
Thank you so much!
 
Rita Lloyd

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[lace-chat] T-shirts

2003-12-14 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone, and those who also get [lace] and have been reading the
T-shirt for the 'in' crowd thread on [lace]...(etc.) This is My Opinion of
T-Shirts, which I do like, but conditionally: When I wear T's I'm fussy
about them - first, they have to fit *me* then the design has to be 'cool'
- so if I want a shirt I really need to see it first, to try it on before
buying it. For me a T has to have a certain amount of looseness but not
look baggy - and for my shape, a size between L and XXL is about right -
but that doesn't necessarily mean XL of any brand - only XL of some
brands; and it has to be long enough to wear untucked, like a tunic.
Otherwise I'm not interested in a T. So, to anyone counting opinions, I am
a 'no, not interested' in the proposed T-shirt...but if the enterpreneurs
wish to broaden the product line to include *tote bags* then I would
definitely be interested. I can use a tote bag of *any size* (and do) for
lace stuff.

-- 
bye for now
Bev on a cheery dark night in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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[lace-chat] Re: T-shirts

2003-12-14 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Sunday, Dec 14, 2003, at 21:11 US/Eastern, Bev Walker wrote:

For me a T has to have a certain amount of looseness but not
look baggy [...] and it has to be long enough to wear untucked, like a 
tunic.
I tuck mine in, but I too like them long (vivid childhood memories of 
bare midrif in the middle of the winter, despite umpteen layers  of 
clothing -- hated it g). I think, if we decided to go for it, we 
might consider *men's* T-s; they tend to have longer trunks. But that's 
something to discuss with Betty, who knows more about the production 
side of things than I ever will.

Otherwise I'm not interested in a T. So, to anyone counting opinions, 
I am
a 'no, not interested' in the proposed T-shirt...but if the 
enterpreneurs
wish to broaden the product line to include *tote bags* then I would
definitely be interested. I can use a tote bag of *any size* (and do) 
for
lace stuff.
g I have *7* lace-related tote bags; 1 was a gift, 1 I bought before 
fabric totes became the in things for goodie bags. That's where I 
got the remaining 5 -- attending conventions, lace days, etc... For my 
needs, that's 4 too many -- even though they're each a slightly 
different size, and even though I use *a* tote every time I go downtown 
to un errands (books to the library, stuff to the PO, etc).  So I'd 
have no interest in acquiring one more, especially since I'm planning 
on attending more lace events in the future... :)

I could, probably, use one more cover cloth (the one to use to put the 
pillow to bed; not a work cloth)... Have several of those also, but 
seem to acquire more pillows faster than I make them and they need to 
be washed once in a while.

But, the reason I thought of T-shirts rather than something else is 
that cliche: been there, done that, got a T-shirt... Which would be 
even more appropriate in a lacemaking situation (charting progress, as 
it were) than as a souvenir of visiting a place. Also, if one were to 
wear such a T to a workshop/demo (the kind where you don't have to 
dress up in period costume), it would be *visible* (I've had a response 
from a teacher -- she'd like one, and thinks her students might too). A 
tote gets put down at one's feet and nobody pays it a blind bit of 
attention.

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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